Cat/Griz Recruiting Comparison

[RickRund]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

That is the Jensen guy from USC that everyone is talking about in the posts above yours.

Sorry, will use old age as an excuse .. Didn't even finish my sentence. Thought they got a LB from USC. Don't even ask where I heard/saw it

[HookedOnGriz]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

That is the Jensen guy from USC that everyone is talking about in the posts above yours.

Sorry, will use old age as an excuse .. Didn't even finish my sentence. Thought they got a LB from USC. Don't even ask where I heard/saw it

Peevey a DE who played some LB in HS is a transfer from USC. You are correct.

[Cataholic]

Not surprising MSU is winning the high school recruiting battle, especially in state. As a freshmen would you rather go to MSU when they will develop you and you can look forward to moving up the depth chart and eventually seeing the field or UM where you finally move up the depth chart and are on track to play and they bring in a transfer and your opportunity to play is nixed?

This is a powerful dynamic and the basic danger of the portal. If you get on, it’s hard to get off.

They basically told McDowell after he led them to Frisco that they were having Ah Yat compete with him and he may not start.

This actually isn't the case. I listened to the interview he did with Sammy Akem the other day and what the narrative was apparently isn't what actually happened. Accordimg to him. Wanting tk be closer to family because of some stuff in his life. He's actually coming back to um's pro day and is being welcomed back by the gris coaching staff for it.

As for the thread Colter and Andrew Houghton talked about this the other day. It sounds like after the covid year players left they had a big void so they've filled it last year and this year with transfers. There's a thought that this is the last year for tons od transfers and after this they will have replenished. Their lower classes should be more full now with all the sophmores they also have been brining in. We shall see. It'd be interesting to have Vim or BBT analyze that. I will grant you that alot of the pushback on the subject was coming from Andrew, who is very much a gris fan, because Colter was waxing exactly how this thread has been going.

Both of those explanations from Griz homers trying to spin it so they don’t look so bad. McDowell signed at Temple after leaving UM. Not exactly trying to get closer to home. And after he decided that Temple wasn’t for him anymore, it is my understanding the team said they didn’t want him back.

And this Covid narrative is hokey. Every team in the country had the same issues yet somehow it has hamstring the Gris. That is a joke.

...your understanding....nuff said. Where art thou getting your information? Listen to the podcast and then get back to me. (Yes I know you won't but prove me wrong)

If you're calling Colter a gris apologist try again. I'll give you Andrew. (Listen to this podcast for the explanation of what they're talking about the covid thing. I just gave a high level synopsis. Again I know you won't listen so....)

I know you don’t like me, but your dislike is clouding your senses. Multiple other people have made the exact same comments that I have. The Covid issue was faced by every school in the country and is not as big for some schools because they managed it correctly. The Gris didn’t.

And if McDowell wanted to move closer to home, why did he leave the Gris and sign with Temple. Did he secretly grow up in Philly?

All of this information is readily available.

I don't dislike you man. I'm pretty sure you dislike me.

I was going to give a smart @ss response but I just was reading an article on bullying and even though you're older than me, I'll pass. Have a good day man. I hope you find some joy today.

The flight from home to Temple is much shorter than home to Missoula. That's why. 3 hour direct flight. I tend to take a man at his word. But that's just me.

Hahaha. Yep…. I believe every word you said! Just to get the facts straight, I simply pointed out the flaws in the Gris explanations - absolutely nothing personal about it. You however made it personal with your follow up response. Maybe take 2 seconds to read over the post before letting your emotions get in the way.

Are you really that gullible with the McDowell explanation? He is homesick so he picks a school that is still on the other side of the country and over 1,500 miles away.?!?!

[RickRund]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

That is the Jensen guy from USC that everyone is talking about in the posts above yours.

Sorry, will use old age as an excuse .. Didn't even finish my sentence. Thought they got a LB from USC. Don't even ask where I heard/saw it

Peevey a DE who played some LB in HS is a transfer from USC. You are correct.

Thanks HookedOnGriz...

[Cataholic]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

[nevadacat]

Hauck is 2-4 against MsU since the embarrassingly arrogant #RTD theme. 7-6 all-time against a team he calls “State.”

Just another good program at this point. Hope he stays another 10 years with his loyal staff.

Bringing in this many transfers is reminiscent of some of the Texas FCS teams who would pop every few years with a few talented drop-downs, yet couldn’t sustain success.

Not a way to sustain a program.

Reminds me of the Yankees in the 1980s, paying big for free agents and trading away young stock for long-in-the-tooth veterans.

[HookedOnGriz]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).

You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.

You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?

Interesting perspective for sure

[Cataholic]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).

You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.

You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?

Interesting perspective for sure

I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!

[FTG_1984]

Going the JUCO/transfer route is more boom/bust than naturally developing your program with HS kids. Cats fans need to be careful about feeling too high & mighty over the North Sac St griz right now though. I guarantee Hack's gambling will pay off on at least a few of these kids. He's proved this before when landing that QB they had last year who transferred to Temple (and some other school again). That kid led them to the FCS title (along with their solid D) in 23. Some of these JUCO/transfers will also be busts I guarantee as well, it's a roll of the dice.

The reality is Vegan is 2-2 against North Sac St, and 0-2 in MisSou-Francisco against Hack. At this point in time, the odds favor Vegan being 0-3 in MisSou-Francisco this time next year. Hope this isn't the case, but let's be real. Unless we develop another dominating squad (a la 2024), getting the W in MisSou-Francisco under Vegan next year will be a major challenge based on Vegan's track record.

[lutecat]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).

You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.

You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?

Interesting perspective for sure

I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!

Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.

I hope you find joy in your day.

[lutecat]

Not surprising MSU is winning the high school recruiting battle, especially in state. As a freshmen would you rather go to MSU when they will develop you and you can look forward to moving up the depth chart and eventually seeing the field or UM where you finally move up the depth chart and are on track to play and they bring in a transfer and your opportunity to play is nixed?

This is a powerful dynamic and the basic danger of the portal. If you get on, it’s hard to get off.

They basically told McDowell after he led them to Frisco that they were having Ah Yat compete with him and he may not start.

This actually isn't the case. I listened to the interview he did with Sammy Akem the other day and what the narrative was apparently isn't what actually happened. Accordimg to him. Wanting tk be closer to family because of some stuff in his life. He's actually coming back to um's pro day and is being welcomed back by the gris coaching staff for it.

As for the thread Colter and Andrew Houghton talked about this the other day. It sounds like after the covid year players left they had a big void so they've filled it last year and this year with transfers. There's a thought that this is the last year for tons od transfers and after this they will have replenished. Their lower classes should be more full now with all the sophmores they also have been brining in. We shall see. It'd be interesting to have Vim or BBT analyze that. I will grant you that alot of the pushback on the subject was coming from Andrew, who is very much a gris fan, because Colter was waxing exactly how this thread has been going.

Both of those explanations from Griz homers trying to spin it so they don’t look so bad. McDowell signed at Temple after leaving UM. Not exactly trying to get closer to home. And after he decided that Temple wasn’t for him anymore, it is my understanding the team said they didn’t want him back.

And this Covid narrative is hokey. Every team in the country had the same issues yet somehow it has hamstring the Gris. That is a joke.

...your understanding....nuff said. Where art thou getting your information? Listen to the podcast and then get back to me. (Yes I know you won't but prove me wrong)

If you're calling Colter a gris apologist try again. I'll give you Andrew. (Listen to this podcast for the explanation of what they're talking about the covid thing. I just gave a high level synopsis. Again I know you won't listen so....)

I know you don’t like me, but your dislike is clouding your senses. Multiple other people have made the exact same comments that I have. The Covid issue was faced by every school in the country and is not as big for some schools because they managed it correctly. The Gris didn’t.

And if McDowell wanted to move closer to home, why did he leave the Gris and sign with Temple. Did he secretly grow up in Philly?

All of this information is readily available.

I don't dislike you man. I'm pretty sure you dislike me.

I was going to give a smart @ss response but I just was reading an article on bullying and even though you're older than me, I'll pass. Have a good day man. I hope you find some joy today.

The flight from home to Temple is much shorter than home to Missoula. That's why. 3 hour direct flight. I tend to take a man at his word. But that's just me.

Hahaha. Yep…. I believe every word you said! Just to get the facts straight, I simply pointed out the flaws in the Gris explanations - absolutely nothing personal about it. You however made it personal with your follow up response. Maybe take 2 seconds to read over the post before letting your emotions get in the way.

Are you really that gullible with the McDowell explanation? He is homesick so he picks a school that is still on the other side of the country and over 1,500 miles away.?!?!

Where did I make it personal? You called me gullible. That sounds kind of personal to me. And mean. I wish you wouldn't come here and be so mean to people. All I want to do is have good conversation and learn more and then you have to bring it down and be mean to people.

You didn't listen to the podcast. I did. So it's kind of hard for me to give any credibility to your arguments if you're just flat refusing to believe someone because you just want to believe the narritive youre hoping for. It's shortsided.

[Cataholic]

Not surprising MSU is winning the high school recruiting battle, especially in state. As a freshmen would you rather go to MSU when they will develop you and you can look forward to moving up the depth chart and eventually seeing the field or UM where you finally move up the depth chart and are on track to play and they bring in a transfer and your opportunity to play is nixed?

This is a powerful dynamic and the basic danger of the portal. If you get on, it’s hard to get off.

They basically told McDowell after he led them to Frisco that they were having Ah Yat compete with him and he may not start.

This actually isn't the case. I listened to the interview he did with Sammy Akem the other day and what the narrative was apparently isn't what actually happened. Accordimg to him. Wanting tk be closer to family because of some stuff in his life. He's actually coming back to um's pro day and is being welcomed back by the gris coaching staff for it.

As for the thread Colter and Andrew Houghton talked about this the other day. It sounds like after the covid year players left they had a big void so they've filled it last year and this year with transfers. There's a thought that this is the last year for tons od transfers and after this they will have replenished. Their lower classes should be more full now with all the sophmores they also have been brining in. We shall see. It'd be interesting to have Vim or BBT analyze that. I will grant you that alot of the pushback on the subject was coming from Andrew, who is very much a gris fan, because Colter was waxing exactly how this thread has been going.

Both of those explanations from Griz homers trying to spin it so they don’t look so bad. McDowell signed at Temple after leaving UM. Not exactly trying to get closer to home. And after he decided that Temple wasn’t for him anymore, it is my understanding the team said they didn’t want him back.

And this Covid narrative is hokey. Every team in the country had the same issues yet somehow it has hamstring the Gris. That is a joke.

...your understanding....nuff said. Where art thou getting your information? Listen to the podcast and then get back to me. (Yes I know you won't but prove me wrong)

If you're calling Colter a gris apologist try again. I'll give you Andrew. (Listen to this podcast for the explanation of what they're talking about the covid thing. I just gave a high level synopsis. Again I know you won't listen so....)

I know you don’t like me, but your dislike is clouding your senses. Multiple other people have made the exact same comments that I have. The Covid issue was faced by every school in the country and is not as big for some schools because they managed it correctly. The Gris didn’t.

And if McDowell wanted to move closer to home, why did he leave the Gris and sign with Temple. Did he secretly grow up in Philly?

All of this information is readily available.

I don't dislike you man. I'm pretty sure you dislike me.

I was going to give a smart @ss response but I just was reading an article on bullying and even though you're older than me, I'll pass. Have a good day man. I hope you find some joy today.

The flight from home to Temple is much shorter than home to Missoula. That's why. 3 hour direct flight. I tend to take a man at his word. But that's just me.

Hahaha. Yep…. I believe every word you said! Just to get the facts straight, I simply pointed out the flaws in the Gris explanations - absolutely nothing personal about it. You however made it personal with your follow up response. Maybe take 2 seconds to read over the post before letting your emotions get in the way.

Are you really that gullible with the McDowell explanation? He is homesick so he picks a school that is still on the other side of the country and over 1,500 miles away.?!?!

Where did I make it personal? You called me gullible. That sounds kind of personal to me. And mean. I wish you wouldn't come here and be so mean to people. All I want to do is have good conversation and learn more and then you have to bring it down and be mean to people.

You didn't listen to the podcast. I did. So it's kind of hard for me to give any credibility to your arguments if you're just flat refusing to believe someone because you just want to believe the narritive youre hoping for. It's shortsided.

Your first response was “coming from you… nuff said”. You came right out of the gate making it personal. Please look at my original response and tell me what was personal. I am confident there was nothing. I responded with the EXACT same response others have and you haven’t taken time to attack them.

My gosh man, give it a break. I wasn’t being mean. I was responding to what the podcast was saying . I listen to them regularly.

And please quit with the passive aggressive “I am nice and you are mean” schtick. We are not in grade school. There a thousand crap ass mean attacking posts on this site and you are offended that I called you “gullible”?. Quit making it more than it is. Everything I posted is a fact that others have also mentioned. If you have a problem with the facts, then state it. Otherwise, just move on.

[HookedOnGriz]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).

You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.

You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?

Interesting perspective for sure

I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!

Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.

I hope you find joy in your day.

Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.

I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.

[coloradocat]

[BelligerentBobcat]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).

You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.

You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?

Interesting perspective for sure

I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!

Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.

I hope you find joy in your day.

Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.

I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.

I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

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Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.

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Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.

Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

[HookedOnGriz]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).

You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.

You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?

Interesting perspective for sure

I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!

Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.

I hope you find joy in your day.

Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.

I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.

I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

That’s good feedback and a very fair assessment. I think this year for certain their hand was kind of forced to bring in a lot of kids. They lost 26 seniors and then had 7 portal out and then had 8 decide to hang it up and not use their final year eligibility. Some due to injuries and maybe some due to just being sick and tired of football. That’s 41 kids they have to replace and you just can’t do that with all freshman.

[HookedOnGriz]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.

Also a fair viewpoint. I wouldn’t say Peevey is my #1, but that he’s one of the big splash recruits they brought in. He is young and did not start or play for USC…but his potential is off the charts and something we don’t see at the FCS level often or in the Big Sky.

It’s like Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris when they dropped down out of their FBS programs they weren’t seeing the field either, but you just knew they’d do well with the Griz in FCS.

I’m not sure the Griz will hold onto Peevey. He was one of a couple who wasn’t enrolled yet for spring ball. So we will see if he ends up in Missoula at all. Dude is big, was a 4 star, and can move (ran 11 second 100s in HS) and had offers everywhere so I think the potential is off the charts.

[HookedOnGriz]

Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?

They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.

I think their best additions outside Peevey are:

Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American

Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors

Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since

Peck - Carroll College DE - all American

Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)

Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)

Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.

We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.

Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.

Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.

https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day

Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!