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[RUACAT]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

[PapaG]

I agree with almost everything you've said, but I don't believe these coaches would sit any player that gives them the best chance to win... in order to prevent him from standing out and getting too much exposure. I know Vigen wants to win the Chipper, this year, and he wants it bad. If a player helps us get there in any way possible, he's playing regardless of redshirt rules.

I get your point, but I will respectfully disagree. While would Jhase help this year? Yeah no doubt, but how much would he help? From what I saw of him against maine he looks just as adequate as the starters but wasn't MUCH better than the starters. There is a saying in tx hs football(maybe it's in MT as well, i don't know)...for every soph you start that's one loss. In 11yrs of coaching it has been 100% true. I don't think he is playing/practicing at a level that says "we have to play him". He's playing at a level of "he could play and help". Now what I do think is that he will play in games that they may feel they need the extra firepower, as well as the playoffs. I think they know he can play right now but they don't NEED him to. I think these coaches see the forest through the trees.... he helps now some...but redshirt him play him in games you think you may need the speed and covering ability and you got a real deal player for the next 4yrs. I don't see MSU not making the playoffs, so why play him when you don't have to? If your current guys are getting the job done there isn't a need to burn his redshirt. He played in the maine game.....i see idaho and um being the next toughest games that he would be able to contribute because they will throw the ball. That's only 3 games, so he keeps his redshirt and he provides extra help in two tough games. Now when the playoffs come, I do think he will play in those games because it doesn't count towards his 4 games.

If you can get to the playoffs keeping a freshman to 4 games, the extra games don’t count so it’s wise to use those guys wisely unless they are so good you can’t keep them off the field. You still get the redshirt along with every playoff game.

[coloradocat]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

This isn't directed at you specifically but since you used the word multiple times I figured this was as good a place as any to say this: stop calling them kids.

Sluka is a college graduate with an agent and wants to be a professional football player (hence signing for money). He's an adult and should be treated like one. Why even have an agent if you aren't going to sign contracts (the fact that there are various competing claims and nobody has produced anything in writing logically means there's nothing to produce).

I don't know who's telling the truth and who's lying, both sides are probably doing a little of both, but it's hard to say he went to UNLV to play football, he went there to get paid to play football and he felt he didn't get enough to continue playing there. This isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. I don't know how it can be fixed because both sides are probably going to keep operating on promises instead of contracts.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I agree with almost everything you've said, but I don't believe these coaches would sit any player that gives them the best chance to win... in order to prevent him from standing out and getting too much exposure. I know Vigen wants to win the Chipper, this year, and he wants it bad. If a player helps us get there in any way possible, he's playing regardless of redshirt rules.

I get your point, but I will respectfully disagree. While would Jhase help this year? Yeah no doubt, but how much would he help? From what I saw of him against maine he looks just as adequate as the starters but wasn't MUCH better than the starters. There is a saying in tx hs football(maybe it's in MT as well, i don't know)...for every soph you start that's one loss. In 11yrs of coaching it has been 100% true. I don't think he is playing/practicing at a level that says "we have to play him". He's playing at a level of "he could play and help". Now what I do think is that he will play in games that they may feel they need the extra firepower, as well as the playoffs. I think they know he can play right now but they don't NEED him to. I think these coaches see the forest through the trees.... he helps now some...but redshirt him play him in games you think you may need the speed and covering ability and you got a real deal player for the next 4yrs. I don't see MSU not making the playoffs, so why play him when you don't have to? If your current guys are getting the job done there isn't a need to burn his redshirt. He played in the maine game.....i see idaho and um being the next toughest games that he would be able to contribute because they will throw the ball. That's only 3 games, so he keeps his redshirt and he provides extra help in two tough games. Now when the playoffs come, I do think he will play in those games because it doesn't count towards his 4 games.

If you can get to the playoffs keeping a freshman to 4 games, the extra games don’t count so it’s wise to use those guys wisely unless they are so good you can’t keep them off the field. You still get the redshirt along with every playoff game.

definitely agree with you here...if you have a guy that you know can be a real player for you for four years makes no sense to play him in limited minutes as true frosh. hold on on to him for the next 4yrs if you can. what i know is that scouts are coming to practices regularly so going to the next level is on the table for all our kids who show that potential....we are a top level fcs team that is vying for a NC pretty much every year...with espn+ we get air time and pro scouts can easily tune in to see them....i think the biggest things is getting nil deals for our players to keep them here. we may never get to paying millions of dollars but i think with the following that msu has in western montana they can get enough money for the players to make it lucrative for them to stay.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

This isn't directed at you specifically but since you used the word multiple times I figured this was as good a place as any to say this: stop calling them kids.

Sluka is a college graduate with an agent and wants to be a professional football player (hence signing for money). He's an adult and should be treated like one. Why even have an agent if you aren't going to sign contracts (the fact that there are various competing claims and nobody has produced anything in writing logically means there's nothing to produce).

I don't know who's telling the truth and who's lying, both sides are probably doing a little of both, but it's hard to say he went to UNLV to play football, he went there to get paid to play football and he felt he didn't get enough to continue playing there. This isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. I don't know how it can be fixed because both sides are probably going to keep operating on promises instead of contracts.

well as a a45y/o grown man i still consider my sons kids at 21 and 19 kids. When I say kids I am not demeaning these young men. I'm from the south and anyone younger than us we look at kids, but i do agree I should call them young men instead of kids. I think he did go there to play football and to get paid. I don't see a problem with that. He was at Holy Cross and I'm pretty sure they weren't giving him anything of note. You are making it seem like he is doing a bad thing to choose a situation that will financially benefit him. You say that he didn't get enough to continue to play there, that statement says that you are taking the schools side. I say that the school didn't uphold their part. I played D1 ball and I know for a fact how schools operate and will lie to get what they want from you for their benefit not caring that you get nothing from it all. I say they didn't pay him as they said they would thinking that he would keep playing because they were winning. I doubt that the kid would stop playing if he was getting what he said he would get. That kid isn't going pro, period the end. As stated if he plays....the team wins the coach makes millions of dollars more and the kid is left out not getting what he was promised how is that right? the young man held him accountable and you are dumping on the young man. I don't feel that's right....at all. The matured grown men are the ones that should be doing right.

[tdub]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

This isn't directed at you specifically but since you used the word multiple times I figured this was as good a place as any to say this: stop calling them kids.

Sluka is a college graduate with an agent and wants to be a professional football player (hence signing for money). He's an adult and should be treated like one. Why even have an agent if you aren't going to sign contracts (the fact that there are various competing claims and nobody has produced anything in writing logically means there's nothing to produce).

I don't know who's telling the truth and who's lying, both sides are probably doing a little of both, but it's hard to say he went to UNLV to play football, he went there to get paid to play football and he felt he didn't get enough to continue playing there. This isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. I don't know how it can be fixed because both sides are probably going to keep operating on promises instead of contracts.

well as a a45y/o grown man i still consider my sons kids at 21 and 19 kids. When I say kids I am not demeaning these young men. I'm from the south and anyone younger than us we look at kids, but i do agree I should call them young men instead of kids. I think he did go there to play football and to get paid. I don't see a problem with that. He was at Holy Cross and I'm pretty sure they weren't giving him anything of note. You are making it seem like he is doing a bad thing to choose a situation that will financially benefit him. You say that he didn't get enough to continue to play there, that statement says that you are taking the schools side. I say that the school didn't uphold their part. I played D1 ball and I know for a fact how schools operate and will lie to get what they want from you for their benefit not caring that you get nothing from it all. I say they didn't pay him as they said they would thinking that he would keep playing because they were winning. I doubt that the kid would stop playing if he was getting what he said he would get. That kid isn't going pro, period the end. As stated if he plays....the team wins the coach makes millions of dollars more and the kid is left out not getting what he was promised how is that right? the young man held him accountable and you are dumping on the young man. I don't feel that's right....at all. The matured grown men are the ones that should be doing right.

I agree on the “kids” aspect. 22 year olds that are still in college are absolutely kids. Mature in so many ways, but just typically not in contracts and business decisions. And that’s exactly why they need an agent to help them. They don’t understand the “real” world of business because they haven’t experienced it. And without help, they can easily get screwed.

I also don’t know where the truth lies in this UNLV situation, but it’s definitely going to leave an ugly stain on that school and impact other transfers coming in later.

I know if I accepted a job offer and what I was promised wasn’t fulfilled, I’d be getting another job. I won’t work for someone that doesn’t have that level of integrity.

[91catAlum]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

[91catAlum]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above. The NIL collective might owe him but the school does not.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above.

You are correct but the coaches recruited him under the premises that he would get that money. They may take the cop out of saying "we" don't provide that money but they used that promise of money to get him so they are on the hook for it. The boosters/collective didn't go recruit the kid, the coaches did. The identified he was a kid they wanted then told the collective "hey we need this kid" and the collective stepped in and put money on the table to back the coaches. Then the money wasn't there when he got there and the coaches are saying "hey we don't handle that", not cool and not right. You don't get to dangle money then say "I'm not responsible for the pay out", yes you are. Just like they told the collective to dangle the money they can say "pay him the money". If you don't have that power then don't promise the kid that money....again whatever was promised to the kid the coaches knew about it...trust me on that.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above. The NIL collective might owe him but the school does not.

So it has now come out that the OC offered him 100k, he committed, got here only got 3K. They said they would pay him before the season, then told him they would pay him in game checks, then when the dad called and talked to the head coach he told them the OC doesn't have the power make that offer and if it didn't come from him it isn't valid. UNLV is screwing the kid and the kid is doing right so that he can get paid now, as he was promised, and play for a team that will keep their word.

[91catAlum]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above. The NIL collective might owe him but the school does not.

So it has now come out that the OC offered him 100k, he committed, got here only got 3K. They said they would pay him before the season, then told him they would pay him in game checks, then when the dad called and talked to the head coach he told them the OC doesn't have the power make that offer and if it didn't come from him it isn't valid. UNLV is screwing the kid and the kid is doing right so that he can get paid now, as he was promised, and play for a team that will keep their word.

If that's the case then its the OC who lied to him, not the university. I'm not saying he didn't get screwed over, he did. My only point is that its not UNLV that owes him, its the OC coach and probably the folks running the NIL Collective (which is not officially affiliated with the school) who broke promises and should be held accountable if possible. NIL money is private money, not university money. That was my only point.

Sucks for the kid, but that stuff is gonna happen when you chase money based on under-the-table verbal agreements and you don't get it in writing. So now, I'm sure we'll be seeing written contracts in the future. And possibly more mid-year quits/transfers which would be awful for the game IMHO.

[coloradocat]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above. The NIL collective might owe him but the school does not.

So it has now come out that the OC offered him 100k, he committed, got here only got 3K. They said they would pay him before the season, then told him they would pay him in game checks, then when the dad called and talked to the head coach he told them the OC doesn't have the power make that offer and if it didn't come from him it isn't valid. UNLV is screwing the kid and the kid is doing right so that he can get paid now, as he was promised, and play for a team that will keep their word.

If that's the case then its the OC who lied to him, not the university. I'm not saying he didn't get screwed over, he did. My only point is that its not UNLV that owes him, its the OC coach and probably the folks running the NIL Collective (which is not officially affiliated with the school) who broke promises and should be held accountable if possible. NIL money is private money, not university money. That was my only point.

Sucks for the kid, but that stuff is gonna happen when you chase money based on under-the-table verbal agreements and you don't get it in writing. So now, I'm sure we'll be seeing written contracts in the future. And possibly more mid-year quits/transfers which would be awful for the game IMHO.

He already had an agent so I wouldn't be so sure we'll be seeing more written contracts in the future. That or he should just immediately fire his agent.

[mslacatfan]

Has Dylan Rollins played at all? Is he healthy? Planning to redshirt this year?

Curious how he is progressing. Dude has an extremely high ceiling.

[HelenaCat]

Has Dylan Rollins played at all? Is he healthy? Planning to redshirt this year?

Curious how he is progressing. Dude has an extremely high ceiling.

Pretty sure he played in the last game. Also pretty sure he red-shirted at BYU. But yes, he is being counted on big time for next season.

[mslacatfan]

Has Dylan Rollins played at all? Is he healthy? Planning to redshirt this year?

Curious how he is progressing. Dude has an extremely high ceiling.

Pretty sure he played in the last game. Also pretty sure he red-shirted at BYU. But yes, he is being counted on big time for next season.

I thought he was on his mission during BYU time? So different than a redshirt? Not sure though

[VimSince03]

Has Dylan Rollins played at all? Is he healthy? Planning to redshirt this year?

Curious how he is progressing. Dude has an extremely high ceiling.

Expectations need to be reset as he gets his development back on track. Has only played in mop-up duty. Has flirted with the two deep. Not sure what the plan is for redshirting or not but echoing what other posters have said, he'll be counted to be ready next year whether that be at guard or tackle.

[MSUBobcat04]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above. The NIL collective might owe him but the school does not.

So it has now come out that the OC offered him 100k, he committed, got here only got 3K. They said they would pay him before the season, then told him they would pay him in game checks, then when the dad called and talked to the head coach he told them the OC doesn't have the power make that offer and if it didn't come from him it isn't valid. UNLV is screwing the kid and the kid is doing right so that he can get paid now, as he was promised, and play for a team that will keep their word.

He's a 23/24 year old college graduate. He should know a) the school offering money is non-binding, as it's actually an NCAA violation to pay athletes and b) anything to do with compensation in that high a dollar amount NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING. I'm not saying an assistant coach DIDN'T MAKE the promise, but at that point he should have said, have your collective send over the paperwork. Even when NIL was very new, prior to the 2nd football season it was made legal, MSU student-athletes were given... CONTRACTS (link below). Typically, these contracts involve specific performance, such as appearing in commercials, showing up to events, etc., not playing football. In fact, paying for play is STILL not allowed by the NCAA amateur rules. They are literally being compensated for use of their Name, Image, and Likeness. It was an expensive, unnecessary lesson but one that Sluka will learn from nonetheless.

https://www.kulr8.com/sports/montana-st ... 6a681.html

I'm curious if anyone will even bring him on. I don't think there's many P4 teams that utilize a run-first QB offense and his passing stats against bottom-half competition leave a ton to be desired, completing 21 of 48 (43.75%) for 318 yards (that's over 3 games, not 1). P4 schools don't recruit stud WRs to bring in a QB that runs the ball 13x per game by himself.

[coloradocat]

Don't know anything about this guy, but the UNLV QB (Matthew Sluka) quit after leading the Rebels to a 3-0 start including wins over Kansas and Houston. Previously played 4 years at Holy Cross. Went 12-1 in 2022-23 and lost to the Jackrabbits 42-21 in the first round. Will have one year of eligibility remaining.

He left an FBS program over money (whether his head got big and wanted more or just didn't get what he was promised). He's not coming to Bozeman.

I don't have any expectations of him coming here. There's no doubt he's chasing the money.

well i wouldn't over simplify it like that. current reports say that he was promised 100k for relocation(NIL) to unlv. he has received only 3k and the school/collective is refusing to pay him the rest of what he is owed. now if that is true unlv is wrong and the kid should sit out. these schools have to stop lying to kids. if you promise a kid something as a school they should come through, whether that's playing time, NIL, whatever.

look at it like this...the kid keeps playing...lets say unlv goes to the cfp...head coach leaves gets a $3mil raise...kid was promised 100k only gets 3k...he is a grad transfer has zero yrs of eligibility left and he isn't a draft prospect, so for him this money is the only big pay day he's getting. That school and the coaches screwed him over. that isn't fair to him and to chalk it up to that's part of sports....no it USED to be part of sports, now you have to come through or kids will leave

now on the flip side, if the school has paid them everything they said they would he is dead wrong for what he is doing. I totally agree on that part but to assume the kid is just chasing money i feel is the wrong way to approach this. we still don't know which story is the actual truth and until then I will not pass judgement on the kid nor the school.

As far as I know, schools are not allowed to be involved in any NIL money. That all must be privately funded through boosters, corporate sponsorships, etc.

All the school can give is room, board, books, tuition, and a FCOA stipend of a few thousand bucks per year. So UNLV is likely being honest when they say they have fulfilled their financial obligation, as that wouldn't include NIL.

And as someone that has played D1 ball and know the ins and outs of collegiate football, I say hogwash. Those coaches made a promise to that kid and didn't come through. It's a cop out. Schools aren't allowed to be involved with NIL money but they CAN pay players. So if I was a coach and the NIL people welched on their money I would go to the school and get that kid the money because I know that he came because we said that he would get that money. If you think that the coaches/schools don't know about the money the kids are being offered you are sadly mistaken. These coaches know what the kids are being offered and are a part of making sure that they are offered that money because they want to get them. Now due to rules they don't "get involved" but they are fully involved, just like they were involved back in the day when they were paying kids under the table. These coaches have eyes and ears everywhere and they know everything that's going on, its their job to know everything.

I'm sure you're right that the coaches and recruiters made NIL promises, no doubt about that. But the money isn't coming from the school itself. The university itself doesn't owe the kid any more than the things I mentioned above. The NIL collective might owe him but the school does not.

So it has now come out that the OC offered him 100k, he committed, got here only got 3K. They said they would pay him before the season, then told him they would pay him in game checks, then when the dad called and talked to the head coach he told them the OC doesn't have the power make that offer and if it didn't come from him it isn't valid. UNLV is screwing the kid and the kid is doing right so that he can get paid now, as he was promised, and play for a team that will keep their word.

He's a 23/24 year old college graduate. He should know a) the school offering money is non-binding, as it's actually an NCAA violation to pay athletes and b) anything to do with compensation in that high a dollar amount NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING. I'm not saying an assistant coach DIDN'T MAKE the promise, but at that point he should have said, have your collective send over the paperwork. Even when NIL was very new, prior to the 2nd football season it was made legal, MSU student-athletes were given... CONTRACTS (link below). Typically, these contracts involve specific performance, such as appearing in commercials, showing up to events, etc., not playing football. In fact, paying for play is STILL not allowed by the NCAA amateur rules. They are literally being compensated for use of their Name, Image, and Likeness. It was an expensive, unnecessary lesson but one that Sluka will learn from nonetheless.

https://www.kulr8.com/sports/montana-st ... 6a681.html

I'm curious if anyone will even bring him on. I don't think there's many P4 teams that utilize a run-first QB offense and his passing stats against bottom-half competition leave a ton to be desired, completing 21 of 48 (43.75%) for 318 yards (that's over 3 games, not 1). P4 schools don't recruit stud WRs to bring in a QB that runs the ball 13x per game by himself.

Even if you want to take away his agency and say he shouldn't be expected to know any better, he hired an agent. Maybe he's telling the truth and he got screwed but he's not blameless.

I think he'll end up at another G5 team. He shouldn't expect much money, promised or delivered, this time around though.