The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Mercyhurst

[Camo_Cat]

Absolutely wild how well fed the trolls on BN end up.

Argue with someone who joined in the last two years and has less than 50 posts: Challenge accepted!

And some people feel the need to comment about it every time. Pot meet kettel

How else are supposed to get to the “required” number of posts?!

[Otis Campbell]

I already stated Costello did what he could. What he ended up with is what we see today. Don't deflect.

You also said it would be better to have a bye week instead of playing Mercyhurst. You like facts... the fact is you are wrong.

We've both strayed into the realm of opinion. We'll see how accurate my 'theorum' is in five days, eight and a half hours. THAT is definitely a FACT.

[DMMDCats]

[Otis Campbell]

THAT was good! Well done!

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

[iaafan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they ever graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have an add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

[iaafan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

[Common Cat]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Man thank you. Your posts are so good.

[4KornerKat]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Man thank you. Your posts are so good.

Yes great insight.

I do feel like they did more of this in 2021 with Freddie Banks, and then lost it with Garza and haven't gotten back there again, as far as disguising coverage and making the opposing QB think too much.

[wbtfg]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Man thank you. Your posts are so good.

Yes great insight.

I do feel like they did more of this in 2021 with Freddie Banks, and then lost it with Garza and haven't gotten back there again, as far as disguising coverage and making the opposing QB think too much.

I also think there’s plenty we are keeping up our sleeves. Both offensively and defensively.

[Cats92]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

And when you’re done sharing your thoughts with us, maybe drop Bobby Daly a line and let him know too

[iaafan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

And when you’re done sharing your thoughts with us, maybe drop Bobby Daly a line and let him know too

I see the so I assume you are joking about Daly needing any help with the defense. He’s doing an outstanding job.

We fans need help understanding football and BBT is a great resource for that.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Man thank you. Your posts are so good.

Yes great insight.

I do feel like they did more of this in 2021 with Freddie Banks, and then lost it with Garza and haven't gotten back there again, as far as disguising coverage and making the opposing QB think too much.

I also think there’s plenty we are keeping up our sleeves. Both offensively and defensively.

agreed, i think there is a lot that we can and will do. Your nonconf games you want to get your confidence up, get everyone comfortable playing together(coaches included), see what you have, and maybe do a little bit of experimenting. Although we haven't really been tested yet I think they have a good gauge of what our strengths and weaknesses are and now we will begin to see things get a little less basic. more complicated coverages, match zones, zone dawgs, line stunts with pressure behind it, drop coverage, and robber coverage. I can see some progressions to this from gm1 to now. I think we will now begin to start to really open things up, if and when we need them. I also think there is a good chance that we don't have to open things up until playoffs so we very well may not see things get to inventive until the post season.

although I always come from a position of you can't wait to the post season because you may not BE in the post season....lol

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

And when you’re done sharing your thoughts with us, maybe drop Bobby Daly a line and let him know too

LOLOL.....appreciate the vote of confidence....I'll see if i can pull up some isu film and so a little break down session....should be fun

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

I'll do this in 3 different posts....offense...defense....special teams......my caveat to these breakdowns is that I don't have game film only game highlights that I'm getting off youtube, lol...so yeah this is what I got for now....

Defense:

We match up fine with them. I used the UND film as a baseline then watched the western oregon film. Similar game plans different bodies. We are more in line with UND. personnel wise they have some guys that can be scary if we let them, but nothing i saw made me go "geez, that's a dude". The qb made a hell of a throw rolling out against WOU, made some good accurate throws against UND, couple of wrs got a little juice, #11 especially but I don't think any of them are players we can't limit their production...jmo.

ISU ran a lot of man beaters in the UND game but UND wasn't in a lot of man, so that tells me whatever game plan they come in with they are going to stick to..that's bad business in football. you have to be able to adjust and change what you're doing once you figure out what the other team is doing. ISU runs a basic layered route tree...short middle high. Against UND their passing concept was horizontal stretches across the field. In 3x1(wrs on one side 1 on the opposite side) they were very consistent about running a rub route with the #2 wr under the #3 becoming the new #3 or going out replacing the #1. It was very obviously they wanted to get the ball to #11. UND wasn't in man so they had to go to other wrs. this poses a problem because the ball was coming out quick which limits your pass rush. When they did run longer routes the qb was on the run. So our DEs have to keep contain at all times and not get sucked in because those are guaranteed deep routes every time. They did pick on the safeties way more than they attacked the cbs. Their outside wrs aren't fast at all, their speed is with their slots. That causes a bit of problem for us because from what I've seen our safeties struggle with speed because they are very concerned with coming down hill to help with run. Another thing that i like what UND did that I think was a heck of game plan, primarily because when coaching it was my take on things, they didn't use their dbs to help with the run, they were only add ins if the ball bounced outside. the dbs were responsible for pass and THAT was their focus, it was almost like they didn't have any run responsibilities. UNDs front took care of the run well enough that dbs weren't needed which allowed them to be in coverage all day. UNDs DC was a step ahead all game. He was able to dictate the game and was never playing catch up.

so with that my take would be that the lbs are going to have to see roll out and scrape over the top to force a faster throw, because again that is guaranteed deep passes. if the qb doesn't roll out all our pressure has to come from the interior or inside lb blitzes because what we don't want is for our des to get up the field or sucked in and its a roll out and we give him time to find the deep guy. Essentially keep him bottled up and make him throw from the pocket. On the back end we have to understand pass concepts and see one route knowing where the other route is..ie if a wr is running a curl there is an out route 5yds shorter but to the outside. We have to figure out quickly are they implementing a vertical concept or a horizontal concept, each route will lead you to the next route...ie if i'm reading #2 and he goes out I know for a fact that #1 is coming in or going deep or potentially both...so if #2 goes out, based on coverage, i get my eyes to #1....if i'm in 3 or 4 the cb has to hug #1 and our nickel has to flare out passing through the curl to the out, cb is hugging #1 until he breaks for the curl, the safety is reading #2 as well sees him go out gets his eyes to #1 reads the angle of the route while weaving that direction...if #1 has a more of post angle he has to take that post because the cb has to be ready for the flat route to turn up and be a wheel, if the angle is more of a dig/curl route safety jumps it for an int or pbu....my biggest fear is ISU trying to attack our safeties deep but again it's off of roll out so we should get help from a scraping lb to force pressure and an inaccurate throw or make him pull it down and run...we then have to tackle in space because its a big run if he doesn't. I would mix in some man but it would be off man catch tech so that we could pass off routes and break as needed.

Run wise I didn't see anything we can't handle. lbs have to read flow and force the proper gap and I don't see us having a problem with it. I think our front is better than theirs from what I saw just have to not worry bout pass until you know for a fact that it is pass, they will be late help, probably get their hands on a couple middle of the field passes that will get deflected up and we'll have a chance at some ints from that tip drill. I wouldn't overly blitz the lbs because I want them to be able to flow to the ball and because the ball comes out pretty quick we would be wasting our lbs if we blitz too much.

keys to success are the dbs doing heavy film study so they know the routes and what routes the run together..again once you see one route you know that the next route is going to be so you know where to go....lbs have to see pocket passing or roll out and know get my hands up quick cause the ball is coming out quick or i got to rush the qb to make him throw quick, read flow press proper gap....dl not over concerned with sacks just because it is a passing team, protect your gap, defeat your block to stop run...get your hands up quick if he's in the pocket, don't let him get outside of me if i'm a de so he can't throw deep.

bout to focus on their defense and see what that looks like vs our offense.......

[wbtfg]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

I'll do this in 3 different posts....offense...defense....special teams......my caveat to these breakdowns is that I don't have game film only game highlights that I'm getting off youtube, lol...so yeah this is what I got for now....

Defense:

We match up fine with them. I used the UND film as a baseline then watched the western oregon film. Similar game plans different bodies. We are more in line with UND. personnel wise they have some guys that can be scary if we let them, but nothing i saw made me go "geez, that's a dude". The qb made a hell of a throw rolling out against WOU, made some good accurate throws against UND, couple of wrs got a little juice, #11 especially but I don't think any of them are players we can't limit their production...jmo.

ISU ran a lot of man beaters in the UND game but UND wasn't in a lot of man, so that tells me whatever game plan they come in with they are going to stick to..that's bad business in football. you have to be able to adjust and change what you're doing once you figure out what the other team is doing. ISU runs a basic layered route tree...short middle high. Against UND their passing concept was horizontal stretches across the field. In 3x1(wrs on one side 1 on the opposite side) they were very consistent about running a rub route with the #2 wr under the #3 becoming the new #3 or going out replacing the #1. It was very obviously they wanted to get the ball to #11. UND wasn't in man so they had to go to other wrs. this poses a problem because the ball was coming out quick which limits your pass rush. When they did run longer routes the qb was on the run. So our DEs have to keep contain at all times and not get sucked in because those are guaranteed deep routes every time. They did pick on the safeties way more than they attacked the cbs. Their outside wrs aren't fast at all, their speed is with their slots. That causes a bit of problem for us because from what I've seen our safeties struggle with speed because they are very concerned with coming down hill to help with run. Another thing that i like what UND did that I think was a heck of game plan, primarily because when coaching it was my take on things, they didn't use their dbs to help with the run, they were only add ins if the ball bounced outside. the dbs were responsible for pass and THAT was their focus, it was almost like they didn't have any run responsibilities. UNDs front took care of the run well enough that dbs weren't needed which allowed them to be in coverage all day. UNDs DC was a step ahead all game. He was able to dictate the game and was never playing catch up.

so with that my take would be that the lbs are going to have to see roll out and scrape over the top to force a faster throw, because again that is guaranteed deep passes. if the qb doesn't roll out all our pressure has to come from the interior or inside lb blitzes because what we don't want is for our des to get up the field or sucked in and its a roll out and we give him time to find the deep guy. Essentially keep him bottled up and make him throw from the pocket. On the back end we have to understand pass concepts and see one route knowing where the other route is..ie if a wr is running a curl there is an out route 5yds shorter but to the outside. We have to figure out quickly are they implementing a vertical concept or a horizontal concept, each route will lead you to the next route...ie if i'm reading #2 and he goes out I know for a fact that #1 is coming in or going deep or potentially both...so if #2 goes out, based on coverage, i get my eyes to #1....if i'm in 3 or 4 the cb has to hug #1 and our nickel has to flare out passing through the curl to the out, cb is hugging #1 until he breaks for the curl, the safety is reading #2 as well sees him go out gets his eyes to #1 reads the angle of the route while weaving that direction...if #1 has a more of post angle he has to take that post because the cb has to be ready for the flat route to turn up and be a wheel, if the angle is more of a dig/curl route safety jumps it for an int or pbu....my biggest fear is ISU trying to attack our safeties deep but again it's off of roll out so we should get help from a scraping lb to force pressure and an inaccurate throw or make him pull it down and run...we then have to tackle in space because its a big run if he doesn't. I would mix in some man but it would be off man catch tech so that we could pass off routes and break as needed.

Run wise I didn't see anything we can't handle. lbs have to read flow and force the proper gap and I don't see us having a problem with it. I think our front is better than theirs from what I saw just have to not worry bout pass until you know for a fact that it is pass, they will be late help, probably get their hands on a couple middle of the field passes that will get deflected up and we'll have a chance at some ints from that tip drill. I wouldn't overly blitz the lbs because I want them to be able to flow to the ball and because the ball comes out pretty quick we would be wasting our lbs if we blitz too much.

keys to success are the dbs doing heavy film study so they know the routes and what routes the run together..again once you see one route you know that the next route is going to be so you know where to go....lbs have to see pocket passing or roll out and know get my hands up quick cause the ball is coming out quick or i got to rush the qb to make him throw quick, read flow press proper gap....dl not over concerned with sacks just because it is a passing team, protect your gap, defeat your block to stop run...get your hands up quick if he's in the pocket, don't let him get outside of me if i'm a de so he can't throw deep.

bout to focus on their defense and see what that looks like vs our offense.......

Love these posts!

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

Offensively

We may have our work cut out for us to a point. ISU runs a 3 man front, mostly a 3-3-5 stack, but they blitzed alot and they will walk that olb to the line and make a 4man front. One thing I like about ISUs defense is their dl plays religiously on half a man. They clog gaps really well. They don't get a push but they get their head in their gap and they stalemate you. we are going to have to move them out of the gaps creating cut backs for the rb. the problem is the lbs press to the line at the snap and wait for the rb to declare and flow well. they bottle up the run well most of the time that i saw. now UND, imo, had a faulty run blocking scheme against ISU...they didn't use the natural angles a 3 man front gives you to their advantage. I would have been pulling uncovered and washing those dls that are shooting gaps naturally getting to the second level and let our guys do what our guys do best...RUN. UND threw the ball a ton from the highlights, again i don't have game film just the highlights on youtube. the dbs give big cushions so we should have 10yd outs available to us and shorter throws as well. ISU bit on play fake real hard, that whole pressing to the line put them out of position quickly, so UND was able to run a lot of bootlegs and roll out off the play fake and guys were open. in obvious pass situations ISU is brining heat, heck they bring heat a lot period, so we have to be able to handle the pressure and not panic. the way their defense was set the edges are weak weak weak, give a little short motion seal the end run to the edge, wrap the ot to the lb and its off to the races.

keys to success.....ol has to handle the pressure from the lbs on pass situations....they have to handle their dl shooting the gap we are running to and be able to either wash them out of the gap or move them off the line to create space....rbs have to know the lbs are going to be right behind that line and run hard into the line being very physical knowing that there is probably going to be a dl in that gap being ready to make a quick cut and get back vertical, they can't dance...one cut and go...qb has to be ok with the pressure and not bail out because if he sits an delivers a good throw his wrs will be open(their secondary was all that great...got beat a ton).....i would lean heavily on timing throws so pressure isn't a factor or put tommy on the move and make the defense worry about him running to open up wrs/rbs/tes...other option is when/if pressure gets through take off and run because their defense is very centerline heavy, edges are weak. on the zone read make your read quick and trust your read, they blitz a lot so it is going to cloudy, make your read and get what you can get...there will be some good and some bad, don't let the bad mess with you that's what ISU wants...indecision.....wr if they help with blocking the edge we'll have another 300yd game....find the open area in the zone and sit and wait catch the ball clean as you will be open. can't afford drops because ISU lives off of getting you off schedule.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

Offensively

We may have our work cut out for us to a point. ISU runs a 3 man front, mostly a 3-3-5 stack, but they blitzed alot and they will walk that olb to the line and make a 4man front. One thing I like about ISUs defense is their dl plays religiously on half a man. They clog gaps really well. They don't get a push but they get their head in their gap and they stalemate you. we are going to have to move them out of the gaps creating cut backs for the rb. the problem is the lbs press to the line at the snap and wait for the rb to declare and flow well. they bottle up the run well most of the time that i saw. now UND, imo, had a faulty run blocking scheme against ISU...they didn't use the natural angles a 3 man front gives you to their advantage. I would have been pulling uncovered and washing those dls that are shooting gaps naturally getting to the second level and let our guys do what our guys do best...RUN. UND threw the ball a ton from the highlights, again i don't have game film just the highlights on youtube. the dbs give big cushions so we should have 10yd outs available to us and shorter throws as well. ISU bit on play fake real hard, that whole pressing to the line put them out of position quickly, so UND was able to run a lot of bootlegs and roll out off the play fake and guys were open. in obvious pass situations ISU is brining heat, heck they bring heat a lot period, so we have to be able to handle the pressure and not panic. the way their defense was set the edges are weak weak weak, give a little short motion seal the end run to the edge, wrap the ot to the lb and its off to the races.

keys to success.....ol has to handle the pressure from the lbs on pass situations....they have to handle their dl shooting the gap we are running to and be able to either wash them out of the gap or move them off the line to create space....rbs have to know the lbs are going to be right behind that line and run hard into the line being very physical knowing that there is probably going to be a dl in that gap being ready to make a quick cut and get back vertical, they can't dance...one cut and go...qb has to be ok with the pressure and not bail out because if he sits an delivers a good throw his wrs will be open(their secondary was all that great...got beat a ton).....i would lean heavily on timing throws so pressure isn't a factor or put tommy on the move and make the defense worry about him running to open up wrs/rbs/tes...other option is when/if pressure gets through take off and run because their defense is very centerline heavy, edges are weak. on the zone read make your read quick and trust your read, they blitz a lot so it is going to cloudy, make your read and get what you can get...there will be some good and some bad, don't let the bad mess with you that's what ISU wants...indecision.....wr if they help with blocking the edge we'll have another 300yd game....find the open area in the zone and sit and wait catch the ball clean as you will be open. can't afford drops because ISU lives off of getting you off schedule.

Special teams

not a lot here because they just didn't show much

KOR
they have a guy back there. he reads his blocks well and they block well for him. this could be a weapon for them. best thing is kick the ball out the endzone or sky kick and make them fair catch it. he is pretty dangerous so I wouldn't flirt with him, its a real easy way to keep them in the game and shift momentum.

FG/XPT
seems solid...the kicker is a run of the mill kicker. ball jumps off his foot, seems decently accurate....line blocks well enough to get them off without pressure. i would like to see pressure off the edge with one of our speedsters just to see if they can handle it. i know mcmillan isn't playing but he blocked 5 kicks his sr yr 4 of which were fg/xpt. again could be a weapon for us to keep our momentum and put them in the cellar. i would use powdrell off the edge and send him screaming, the pressure may influence some bad kicks or make them adjust blocking when may weaken the inside which could open up our interior guys...just a little wrinkle I would throw at them to keep them thinking

didn't see punt or pr so nothing to say there.

[Cats92]

I know the game was a blow out. I know Mercyhurst was overmatched. I tell you what though, for a small school with an enrollment of 2700 people and having just moved up to FCS, Mercyhurst certainly didn’t embarrass themselves out there today. They played hard and didn’t give up. I saw some real talent on that team. I have a lot of respect for every one of those players and their coaches too.

That big wr really helped them today. Those quick throws really hurt us and helped them move the ball.

That’s been a theme for a while. Maybe someone can shed light on why those are open? @BobcatBuiltTexan

Good evening.....I appreciate you tagging me in. Been super busy here recently so my participation has waned a bit...lol.

From what I saw, I recorded the game, it's our scheme. We do a lot of bailing at the line or being 5-6 off and getting deep. Considering our starters have shown a propensity to not necessarily play the ball in the air all that well and we aren't super tall at the cb position, it's a tech that you use to force them to throw short, then come up and be physical on the tackle. It can be highly frustrating as a fan(and a former cb who was taught to challenge every single throw, lol) but they decided to take the lesser of two evils. The coaches figure they'll give up the short throws and then throw a mixer coverage like 6, 9, or 2 where you have a hard roll down cb to try to catch them on that short throw and create a turnover or make them hold the ball so the rush can get to them. Not a huge fan of that, but much less of fan of giving up deep balls because we can't play the ball in the air correctly. If we come down and press, the offense will AFC(automatic formation check) to the fade which puts us in a bind with how we are playing the ball currently. What I would have liked for them to do was show press and at the snap bail to cov3 looking back at the qb, which gives us a better chance to play the ball if the qb throws it. If the qb is smart he'll pull it down which again gives our rush a chance to get there. If we use that tech that allows us to play games the whole game with the qb and make him think......one snap start off then drop down with a hard cb....next snap press and play press, next snap play press bail to 5yds then sit like a hard cb....it really jacks with the timing and we discourage the short timing throw and make him have to really read what the cb is doing which gives the cb time to react and the rush time to affect the throw.

That's what I saw...hopefully they start playing more mind games with the qb with disguises and alignment shifts.

Effin’ sweet dude!

lol, thank you.....I played in the 4-2-5 so I'm pretty well versed in it. I love it. It's the old nickel(5dbs). It doesn't look like they are double calling(one coverage on the front side, potentially different coverage on the backside). If they every graduated to that, man they would be super sporty. When you have zone on one side then man on the other....or cov3 look on one side but a cov 2 look on the other...it really messes with the qb. that qb really has to be able to read what's going on in the secondary, that takes time...time we need to get to the qb. That's why i love it so much. you literally can have the secondary and the front completely separate from one another...front takes care of the run(6 up front) and the back end takes care of the pass(5 on the backend). Then based on coverage you can have and add in of one to two dbs to help with outside run fits. it gets real confusing real quick if done correctly. Plus it's simple for the defense but comes off as super complicated for the offense to read. Your weakness though is when the opposing teams decide to get in a heavy formation and just run down hill, got to have some guys that don't mind knocking skulls up front and safeties that can read where they fit and don't mind mixing it up either.

If you get a chance to look at some ISU video it would be awesome to hear what you think about how we matchup with them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very enlightening.

And when you’re done sharing your thoughts with us, maybe drop Bobby Daly a line and let him know too

I see the so I assume you are joking about Daly needing any help with the defense. He’s doing an outstanding job.

We fans need help understanding football and BBT is a great resource for that.

Absolutely joking about the Daly part. I feel like I could have backed myself into a corner with that comment too. Daly does a great job and I have no real concerns at this point.

BBT on the other hand rolls into BN and has to explain how football works to a bunch of toddlers, and in a way that after every post, we all learn a thing or two.