lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Swilly3224 wrote:
I laugh because all you Cat fans are retarded. I was watching the Texas St. and GSU game this year and they were talking about the playoffs and how we lost to Cal Poly and the announcer said "Now often do the Grizzlies lose in the playoffs and definintly not in missoula" and I thought it was funny because the man was 100% right. Until the Cats get a reputation like that or at least make the playoffs in consecutive years then maybe you will be up to par with us.
PS: When you people cut at my age or whatever you seem to like to do, it doesnt help the fact that your basketball program is in the ****** and your one shot at glory in football is gone and mediocrity waits beyond the horizon. I will take in all your comments about me and laugh my way to Chatty next year and the Sweet 16 and proceed to say "Its a good day to be a Grizzly"
Chatty and the Sweet 16 next year? Heh. You are a certifiable fu*ktard Slingblade, if you think that's going to happen.
The truth is, you fit the persona of a fan who only began to cheer for a team when they became very successful. There are fans from each school who have been cheering for their respective teams since before your immature ass was ever born and you're an example of one of those bad apples that everybody speaks of when they talk of "those types of fans".
You further display your ignorance by talking of reputations and having only one shot of glory. Which school actually had championship victories and appearances OVER A DECADE before the griz even sniffed a championship? Where were you? Were you even a fan of the griz then? Were you even born yet? The truth is, MSU put this state on the map football-wise but in the mid 80's we fell into a long run of struggles and the tide shifted with towards the griz with a million dollar DW investment that helped catapult the griz and thus taking over that success that MSU had built up in the state. I can only imagine with your clearly blatant omission of these facts that you're either a complete idiot or weren't even born yet. No longer do you see the griz always winning the recruiting battles or the games on the field. Until the BSC tournament last year, you didn't see any real domination from the men's basketball team. I guess I'm just interested in how your point of view only has centered around the recent years of griz sports. For the most part, those recent years have equated to great success (at least in FB). It also tells me that you weren't a fan at all before the success really starting building up. No wonder even people on egriz ridicule you at times.
It's kind of amusing to have the history of Griz football told by Cat fans. Amusing, but not very accurate. Through the tenures of Swarthout, Davison and Donovon, Griz football was on the upswing prior to Read coming to UM. During that time, however, they "temporarily" played at Dornblazer for more than 20 years longer than anticipated. Dornblazer was the worst facility in the BSC, if not the nation, and a lot of people worked extremely hard for a long time to get WA-Griz. As noted earlier in this thread, WA-Griz was an infinite improvement over Dornblazer when it was built, but IMO at that time it merely put the Griz on par with the rest of nation in terms of facilities. If I remember correctly, Denny Washington did not contribute any money to its' construction, but instead contributed services and the use of his equipment to build it.
Read took Griz football to the next level, and the facilities continued to improve for this reason: UM administrators had the vision to make the improvements while the Griz won over an extended period of time. The endzone seats were built after the success of the 89 season and the north endzone seats were expanded after the 95 season as major improvements, but improvements have made to the facilities every year since it was built. A major factor in both the Griz winning and the improvement of the facilities can be attributed to Reno, Idaho and Boise going 1-A, leaving UM as the only big dog left in what was otherwise an undistinguishable conference. A lot of people may not have liked Hogan, but you have to give him credit for making WA-Griz what it is today.
While the entire history of Montana football to a Cat fan may only exist for the years between 1955 and 1985, both the Griz and the Cats have been playing for over 100 years. Both have had good years, and both have had bad. I give the Cats credit for putting the State on the national scene with their 84 championship, but I believe you're sadly mistaken if you think what the Cats' had merely "shifted" to the Griz. The Griz took it to a new level, but it did not occur overnight. The planning for WA-Griz began before the Griz moved into their "temporary" facilities at Dornblazer in the early 60s, and continues today. You may not like the Griz, but every program in the country is trying to emulate our recent success and our facilities.
The point I guess I am trying to make is that there were and are alot of people involved with the Griz success both before and after Denny Washington. Yes, he made a major contribution but to claim all institutions can do what Montana did by merely giving them an infusion of cash completely underestimates what UM has accomplished.