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Pretty shocking that they didn't try to win the game on a Taco punt return. Wasn't that by far their best chance? Hmm.
They would have punted it out of bounds.
WITH TIME ON THE CLOCK AND OUR BALL
Seems weird to me getting upset about it, but do you. Block punt and return for TD is near as likely when percentages are that low.
Its also on the tail end of how badly they managed the clock at the end of the first half.
It was bad management to close out the half twice in a row.
Probably didn't make a difference but it was still a boneheaded decision.
I disagree.
We should go play poker in Vegas sometime. I'd love to take your money.
You bet long odds and bluff bad hands. Sure.
LOL, you go all in on a blocked punt, but I bet bad hands? LOL.
The point is either choice is a long shot. You put 11 on Roulette and Vigen put 14 for all your money, and you’re dunking on a Brent because 14 didn’t work.
You seemed to be having a really tough night, though. The poker game offer was weird from jump street.
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When you have the best player in the country you can’t spend the entire first half playing so conservative. Obviously we thought we could just run it down there throats with power offense. Not sure why. Our advantage was on the edge with Tommy making decisions. Also defense can not completely vacate the middle of the field on a 3rd and 3. You could see that draw coming a mile away. Not even sure that was the play but when Miller saw us playing DT outside their tackles and our linebackers outside the hash it was and easy pickup. Then our safeties fly outside as well. What the hell
Great take. That Miller run was inexcusable in game #16. When you can't "contain" their two best players, it's trouble.
I'm pretty sure at least 2 guys blew their zone assignment. There is no call in the defensive playbook where you tell your 4 down linemen to pin back their ears & go full bore pass rush and also vacate everything between the hashes.
I said it looked like trouble before the snap...and I'm 90% certain that it wasn't a called draw, but Miller didn't hesitate to pull it and run.
Looking at the replay after the game, it was worse than I thought.
The coaches can only do so much, the players still have to execute. That includes llining up correctly and doing their 1/11th. You can't put all the blame on the coaches or all the blame on the players. Sometimes the other team just executes better. That's what happened last night, especially in the first half.
Pretty shocking that they didn't try to win the game on a Taco punt return. Wasn't that by far their best chance? Hmm.
They would have punted it out of bounds.
WITH TIME ON THE CLOCK AND OUR BALL
Seems weird to me getting upset about it, but do you. Block punt and return for TD is near as likely when percentages are that low.
Its also on the tail end of how badly they managed the clock at the end of the first half.
It was bad management to close out the half twice in a row.
Probably didn't make a difference but it was still a boneheaded decision.
I disagree.
We should go play poker in Vegas sometime. I'd love to take your money.
You bet long odds and bluff bad hands. Sure.
LOL, you go all in on a blocked punt, but I bet bad hands? LOL.
The point is either choice is a long shot. You put 11 on Roulette and Vigen put 14 for all your money, and you’re dunking on a Brent because 14 didn’t work.
You seemed to be having a really tough night, though. The poker game offer was weird from jump street.
So you don't know how to play Roulette either?
Vigen put it all on 14.
I wanted him to put half on 14 and then half on 11.
The way I play, I had 2 long shots to win. The Papa G way, you get one shot.
My odds are double yours.
MSU is a math school, I shouldn't have to mansplain this to you.
When you have the best player in the country you can’t spend the entire first half playing so conservative. Obviously we thought we could just run it down there throats with power offense. Not sure why. Our advantage was on the edge with Tommy making decisions. Also defense can not completely vacate the middle of the field on a 3rd and 3. You could see that draw coming a mile away. Not even sure that was the play but when Miller saw us playing DT outside their tackles and our linebackers outside the hash it was and easy pickup. Then our safeties fly outside as well. What the hell
Great take. That Miller run was inexcusable in game #16. When you can't "contain" their two best players, it's trouble.
I'm pretty sure at least 2 guys blew their zone assignment. There is no call in the defensive playbook where you tell your 4 down linemen to pin back their ears & go full bore pass rush and also vacate everything between the hashes.
I said it looked like trouble before the snap...and I'm 90% certain that it wasn't a called draw, but Miller didn't hesitate to pull it and run.
Looking at the replay after the game, it was worse than I thought.
Miller in the post game interview called it a planned draw. Ortt Followed the same receiver number three that Daly did. I think there were some blown assignments.
When you have the best player in the country you can’t spend the entire first half playing so conservative. Obviously we thought we could just run it down there throats with power offense. Not sure why. Our advantage was on the edge with Tommy making decisions. Also defense can not completely vacate the middle of the field on a 3rd and 3. You could see that draw coming a mile away. Not even sure that was the play but when Miller saw us playing DT outside their tackles and our linebackers outside the hash it was and easy pickup. Then our safeties fly outside as well. What the hell
Great take. That Miller run was inexcusable in game #16. When you can't "contain" their two best players, it's trouble.
I'm pretty sure at least 2 guys blew their zone assignment. There is no call in the defensive playbook where you tell your 4 down linemen to pin back their ears & go full bore pass rush and also vacate everything between the hashes.
I said it looked like trouble before the snap...and I'm 90% certain that it wasn't a called draw, but Miller didn't hesitate to pull it and run.
Looking at the replay after the game, it was worse than I thought.
Miller in the post game interview called it a planned draw. Ortt Followed the same receiver number three that Daly did. I think there were some blown assignments.
I'd call it the parting of the Red Sea and an MSU debacle that was *one* of the differences in the game. Not sure how that happens in game #16.
When you have the best player in the country you can’t spend the entire first half playing so conservative. Obviously we thought we could just run it down there throats with power offense. Not sure why. Our advantage was on the edge with Tommy making decisions. Also defense can not completely vacate the middle of the field on a 3rd and 3. You could see that draw coming a mile away. Not even sure that was the play but when Miller saw us playing DT outside their tackles and our linebackers outside the hash it was and easy pickup. Then our safeties fly outside as well. What the hell
Great take. That Miller run was inexcusable in game #16. When you can't "contain" their two best players, it's trouble.
I'm pretty sure at least 2 guys blew their zone assignment. There is no call in the defensive playbook where you tell your 4 down linemen to pin back their ears & go full bore pass rush and also vacate everything between the hashes.
I said it looked like trouble before the snap...and I'm 90% certain that it wasn't a called draw, but Miller didn't hesitate to pull it and run.
Looking at the replay after the game, it was worse than I thought.
Miller in the post game interview called it a planned draw. Ortt Followed the same receiver number three that Daly did. I think there were some blown assignments.
I'd call it the parting of the Red Sea and an MSU debacle that was *one* of the differences in the game. Not sure how that happens in game #16.
The hole up the middle was as wide as the field with very little exaggeration. Both linebackers turn their back to the ball when they follow receivers as did Ortt. They just made a mistake at the same time.
We missed Dani U. Ortt played a good game but not mistake free so I’m not dogging on him either.
Polasek made the comment that they game planned to stay away from number 26 as much as possible.
Miller was horrible in Bozeman last year. I knew he wouldn’t be that bad in this game. The 64-yarder gave him some misleading stats but even without that he has good numbers. The 19 for 22 is an absolute mystery. Did he improve that much or did crowd noise in Bozeman affect him?
I was told by Skyline photogs that the MSU crowd noise was incredible after the forced punt to get the Bobcats the ball down 28-25.
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When you have the best player in the country you can’t spend the entire first half playing so conservative. Obviously we thought we could just run it down there throats with power offense. Not sure why. Our advantage was on the edge with Tommy making decisions. Also defense can not completely vacate the middle of the field on a 3rd and 3. You could see that draw coming a mile away. Not even sure that was the play but when Miller saw us playing DT outside their tackles and our linebackers outside the hash it was and easy pickup. Then our safeties fly outside as well. What the hell
Great take. That Miller run was inexcusable in game #16. When you can't "contain" their two best players, it's trouble.
I'm pretty sure at least 2 guys blew their zone assignment. There is no call in the defensive playbook where you tell your 4 down linemen to pin back their ears & go full bore pass rush and also vacate everything between the hashes.
I said it looked like trouble before the snap...and I'm 90% certain that it wasn't a called draw, but Miller didn't hesitate to pull it and run.
Looking at the replay after the game, it was worse than I thought.
Miller in the post game interview called it a planned draw. Ortt Followed the same receiver number three that Daly did. I think there were some blown assignments.
I'd call it the parting of the Red Sea and an MSU debacle that was *one* of the differences in the game. Not sure how that happens in game #16.
The hole up the middle was as wide as the field with very little exaggeration. Both linebackers turn their back to the ball when they follow receivers as did Ortt. They just made a mistake at the same time.
We missed Dani U. Ortt played a good game but not mistake free so I’m not dogging on him either.
Polasek made the comment that they game planned to stay away from number 26 as much as possible.
It looked like 2 man, man underneath and the deep safety’s have deep half.
Miller was horrible in Bozeman last year. I knew he wouldn’t be that bad in this game. The 64-yarder gave him some misleading stats but even without that he has good numbers. The 19 for 22 is an absolute mystery. Did he improve that much or did crowd noise in Bozeman affect him?
I was told by Skyline photogs that the MSU crowd noise was incredible after the forced punt to get the Bobcats the ball down 28-25.
No doubt he made some nice throws to Lance, but the soft zone coverage we played without much man challenges on the WR’s didn’t hurt his throwing windows at all either. Literally very few contested balls. The long pass to Lance to the 1 yard line was well defended but most of our coverage seemed way too soft to me.
I'm also putting NDSU fans on the same level as the gris now. Chanting let's go bison while Junior is down on their sideline was so classess.
NDSU fan here. My seats were on the NDSU side of the field at about the 20 (away from the stage). With the configuration of the seats we had zero visibility that someone was injured on that play. We just couldn't see them from that angle.
Anyways great showing by your fans. You guys were ridiculously loud especially in the second half. Plus your team showed a ton of heart, coming back after a slow start.
One thing that I have noticed over the years watching the Frisco game is that many teams come out really tight in the first half. It's not uncommon for NDSU to get on them early. I would be a bit surprised if this was the case here, as this isn't the first trip for your team and your coaching staff is likely using the exact same routine as NDSU ( I even heard in an interview that our coaches are setting up a call to compare notes). But it just seemed like you guys were a bit "tight".
I'm also putting NDSU fans on the same level as the gris now. Chanting let's go bison while Junior is down on their sideline was so classess.
NDSU fan here. My seats were on the NDSU side of the field at about the 20 (away from the stage). With the configuration of the seats we had zero visibility that someone was injured on that play. We just couldn't see them from that angle.
Anyways great showing by your fans. You guys were ridiculously loud especially in the second half. Plus your team showed a ton of heart, coming back after a slow start.
One thing that I have noticed over the years watching the Frisco game is that many teams come out really tight in the first half. It's not uncommon for NDSU to get on them early. I would be a bit surprised if this was the case here, as this isn't the first trip for your team and your coaching staff is likely using the exact same routine as NDSU ( I even heard in an interview that our coaches are setting up a call to compare notes). But it just seemed like you guys were a bit "tight".
Hard to put a finger on it. Tight. Not focused. Unprepared.
The game reminded me a lot of the Idaho game last year. Dropped passes, made mistakes, missed FGs and it led to a 10-0 deficit at halftime. Makes me wonder if the mindset for each game was similar. MSU knew it outplayed ndsu in 2023 and may have been overconfident given that it was 15-0 and had just easily beaten a team ndsu lost to in USD. You wouldn’t think give the 1-0 mantra, but with no other games on the schedule something mightve seeped in there.
So hard to say.
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