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Re: Women's Baskeetball Srping Commit(s)

Post by SACCAT » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:18 am

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SACCAT’s play by play call for next year just became more challenging with the addition of the twins :) .

So we now have 6 “guards” joining the team. I guess position named forward or wing is obsolete in the new age of baskeetball.
Thank goodness for jersey numbers, and I'm sure Ian will appreciate that the parents gave the two sisters fairly distinctive first names and not very similar ones like some twins have (Jason and Jarron Collins, for example). I like that they wore #1 and #2 in high school, perhaps they can do the same at MSU as both of those numbers are currently available. I wonder if the "older" twin got to wear #1.
OK, finally, here it is. If this isn’t the ultimate reason to have names on the uniforms, I don’t know what is. :lol:
How will that help it is same last name :lol:
I was joking all the way! But it would help that Ian guy out. I mean, if Smith passes to Smith for a layup, who really cares which? Except maybe Smith does. :lol:
SACCAT can handle it with ease with one eye closed even. It would be a big help if the twins had very different hair styles like the Moran twins at NAU had. Sometimes it's hard to see a number on the jersey but you can almost always see a player's head. Speaking of the Moran twins I think that Courtney and Heidi have a great chance of being better and even more impactful for the Bobcats than the Moran twins were for NAU. They are 2 inches taller and look to have great speed and ball handling, shooting and tenacious effort. Looking forward to next year's Cats.
In the late 90s at the Class C State Tourney. there was a team (I believe) from Heart Butte that had 7 players (5 of them starters) that all had the same last name. That last name was "Elk Shoulder" Nothing will be harder than that.



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Re: Women's Baskeetball Srping Commit(s)

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:21 am

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The last twins I remember were from Minot, ND. I am thinking on the names, but they haven’t bubbled up yet — seriously might have been Smith. They were *very good* players in the Spoelstra era (I think). They never fouled out because one might have seven fouls but her sister got three of them! Just kidding, but it was fun. It’s like having two KJs.
A big shout out to our incomparable Women’s SID for the answer. The twins were Sandy and Susan Neiss of Surrey, (right near Minot) ND.



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Re: Women's Baskeetball Srping Commit(s)

Post by 84CatGrad » Thu May 01, 2025 11:33 am

To me our achilles heel last year was rebounding. We were commonly outrebounded and we are losing Martin, Dykstra, Deden, Janssen. Morales and Picton who corralled 44% of our 'bounds. Interestingly, Chirrick was only two rebounds behind our leading total rebounder, Martin, and averaged 4.3/game, just behind Martin and Dykstra's 4.4. We need Harris and Johnson to hit the weights this year and/or hope the Smith twins can board.



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Re: Women's Baskeetball Srping Commit(s)

Post by SACCAT » Thu May 01, 2025 12:12 pm

84CatGrad wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 11:33 am
To me our achilles heel last year was rebounding. We were commonly outrebounded and we are losing Martin, Dykstra, Deden, Janssen. Morales and Picton who corralled 44% of our 'bounds. Interestingly, Chirrick was only two rebounds behind our leading total rebounder, Martin, and averaged 4.3/game, just behind Martin and Dykstra's 4.4. We need Harris and Johnson to hit the weights this year and/or hope the Smith twins can board.
I agree to an extent... MSU was also the 2nd best shooting team in the Big Sky (.05 a game behind ISU), so less chances for Rebounding there. Cats were also 4th in the Conference in opponents rebounding. Cats had only 949 shots attempted against them in Big Sky Play (For Comparison, NAU had 1157 attempted against them and UM had 1060)... So less chances because of our Defense and Steals, but still were just -4 in rebounding average per game.



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Re: Women's Baskeetball Srping Commit(s)

Post by MSU01 » Thu May 01, 2025 3:33 pm

SACCAT wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 12:12 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 11:33 am
To me our achilles heel last year was rebounding. We were commonly outrebounded and we are losing Martin, Dykstra, Deden, Janssen. Morales and Picton who corralled 44% of our 'bounds. Interestingly, Chirrick was only two rebounds behind our leading total rebounder, Martin, and averaged 4.3/game, just behind Martin and Dykstra's 4.4. We need Harris and Johnson to hit the weights this year and/or hope the Smith twins can board.
I agree to an extent... MSU was also the 2nd best shooting team in the Big Sky (.05 a game behind ISU), so less chances for Rebounding there. Cats were also 4th in the Conference in opponents rebounding. Cats had only 949 shots attempted against them in Big Sky Play (For Comparison, NAU had 1157 attempted against them and UM had 1060)... So less chances because of our Defense and Steals, but still were just -4 in rebounding average per game.
Each team has the same number of possessions over the course of a game, and for each defensive possession there are really only three outcomes: the opponent scores, the opponent misses and you get the defensive rebound, or the opponent commits a turnover. MSU forces so many turnovers compared to its opponents that mathematically I'm not sure it would ever be possible for them to also have a significant rebounding advantage over the course of a full season.



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Re: Women's Baskeetball Srping Commit(s)

Post by SACCAT » Thu May 01, 2025 7:24 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 3:33 pm
SACCAT wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 12:12 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 11:33 am
To me our achilles heel last year was rebounding. We were commonly outrebounded and we are losing Martin, Dykstra, Deden, Janssen. Morales and Picton who corralled 44% of our 'bounds. Interestingly, Chirrick was only two rebounds behind our leading total rebounder, Martin, and averaged 4.3/game, just behind Martin and Dykstra's 4.4. We need Harris and Johnson to hit the weights this year and/or hope the Smith twins can board.
I agree to an extent... MSU was also the 2nd best shooting team in the Big Sky (.05 a game behind ISU), so less chances for Rebounding there. Cats were also 4th in the Conference in opponents rebounding. Cats had only 949 shots attempted against them in Big Sky Play (For Comparison, NAU had 1157 attempted against them and UM had 1060)... So less chances because of our Defense and Steals, but still were just -4 in rebounding average per game.
Each team has the same number of possessions over the course of a game, and for each defensive possession there are really only three outcomes: the opponent scores, the opponent misses and you get the defensive rebound, or the opponent commits a turnover. MSU forces so many turnovers compared to its opponents that mathematically I'm not sure it would ever be possible for them to also have a significant rebounding advantage over the course of a full season.
Exactly... And that is why I am not to worried about their rebounding at this point.



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