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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by WetBreeches » Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:24 am

AFCAT wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:47 am
RyeCat wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:29 am
If you are able and would like to support his training, the Bobcat Collective is still taking donations to fund both his coaching and housing needs while he’s in CA.
There were some questions last year about donating money to help these former college athletes with their training after college. I did check with the MSU compliance office and, yes, it's completely fine donating money to help with this training.

https://donate.stripe.com/5kA9Eh2FkfZi0aA28e

Of course there would be no compliance issues post playing career. Same way you could pay an ex-Bobcat to sit at your house and do nothing if you wanted...don't think I would ever "donate" money to an aspiring pro athlete unless it was a close family member. But wish Tommy all the best and hope the professionals who are around him who stand to benefit financially from his success support him through the process.
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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by blueandgoldblitz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:12 pm

I'm sure I could find this if I dug a little deeper, but does anyone know if they're doing that for all athletes that are training for the draft (like Brody maybe?) Seems kind of weird to just do it for Tommy, even if he is legendary.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by RyeCat » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:26 pm

blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:12 pm
I'm sure I could find this if I dug a little deeper, but does anyone know if they're doing that for all athletes that are training for the draft (like Brody maybe?) Seems kind of weird to just do it for Tommy, even if he is legendary.
I’m sure you could reach out to the collective or Brandon Vancleeve and ask. I only knew about Tommy’s funding request because it had been mentioned in Butte. I do know that a lot of agents will front the cost for prospects assuming they will recoup it when the player makes the league.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by AFCAT » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:37 pm

blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:12 pm
I'm sure I could find this if I dug a little deeper, but does anyone know if they're doing that for all athletes that are training for the draft (like Brody maybe?) Seems kind of weird to just do it for Tommy, even if he is legendary.
I don't know, but if you want to, you can contact a former player directly and donate cash to them. I did that last season for three players and didn't go through the collective.


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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by AFCAT » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:39 pm

WetBreeches wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:24 am
AFCAT wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:47 am
RyeCat wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:29 am
If you are able and would like to support his training, the Bobcat Collective is still taking donations to fund both his coaching and housing needs while he’s in CA.
There were some questions last year about donating money to help these former college athletes with their training after college. I did check with the MSU compliance office and, yes, it's completely fine donating money to help with this training.

https://donate.stripe.com/5kA9Eh2FkfZi0aA28e

Of course there would be no compliance issues post playing career. Same way you could pay an ex-Bobcat to sit at your house and do nothing if you wanted...don't think I would ever "donate" money to an aspiring pro athlete unless it was a close family member. But wish Tommy all the best and hope the professionals who are around him who stand to benefit financially from his success support him through the process.
Yeah, that's what I said last season when this question came up from others on the board, but I checked with the compliance office to make sure we weren't harming the school or the program in any way and they confirmed that we wouldn't be.
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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by WetBreeches » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:40 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:26 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:12 pm
I'm sure I could find this if I dug a little deeper, but does anyone know if they're doing that for all athletes that are training for the draft (like Brody maybe?) Seems kind of weird to just do it for Tommy, even if he is legendary.
I’m sure you could reach out to the collective or Brandon Vancleeve and ask. I only knew about Tommy’s funding request because it had been mentioned in Butte. I do know that a lot of agents will front the cost for prospects assuming they will recoup it when the player makes the league.
The amount they are willing to front is directly proportional to the amount they assume they will recoup...the old adage "it's a business"...no free meals in pro sports...depending on the players draft stock they will have everything paid for and even a per diem from an agent.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by WetBreeches » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:41 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:39 pm
WetBreeches wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:24 am
AFCAT wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:47 am
RyeCat wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:29 am
If you are able and would like to support his training, the Bobcat Collective is still taking donations to fund both his coaching and housing needs while he’s in CA.
There were some questions last year about donating money to help these former college athletes with their training after college. I did check with the MSU compliance office and, yes, it's completely fine donating money to help with this training.

https://donate.stripe.com/5kA9Eh2FkfZi0aA28e

Of course there would be no compliance issues post playing career. Same way you could pay an ex-Bobcat to sit at your house and do nothing if you wanted...don't think I would ever "donate" money to an aspiring pro athlete unless it was a close family member. But wish Tommy all the best and hope the professionals who are around him who stand to benefit financially from his success support him through the process.
Yeah, that's what I said last season when this question came up from others on the board, but I checked with the compliance office to make sure we weren't harming the school or the program in any way and they confirmed that we wouldn't be.
Definitely an easy and prudent decision to double check.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by blueandgoldblitz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:29 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:26 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:12 pm
I'm sure I could find this if I dug a little deeper, but does anyone know if they're doing that for all athletes that are training for the draft (like Brody maybe?) Seems kind of weird to just do it for Tommy, even if he is legendary.
I’m sure you could reach out to the collective or Brandon Vancleeve and ask. I only knew about Tommy’s funding request because it had been mentioned in Butte. I do know that a lot of agents will front the cost for prospects assuming they will recoup it when the player makes the league.
Oh I got you. I just assumed based on what I had read that there was like a little box on the Collective website for members to donate directly to Tommy or something. I was just curious. Not looking to start any sort of kerfuffle :D



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by nanacat » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:58 pm

https://www.instagram.com/stories/tommy ... s5Y24wdzNl

This post says Combine 2025, week 3. Not sure if that just means combine prep?



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:42 am

Here’s Tommy’s job.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/435 ... lp-offense

Sean Payton (Broncos) says he wants a “joker” player who can run, catch passes, make yards after catch, and be able to throw the ball. He just described Tommy.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by nanacat » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:00 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:42 am
Here’s Tommy’s job.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/435 ... lp-offense

Sean Payton (Broncos) says he wants a “joker” player who can run, catch passes, make yards after catch, and be able to throw the ball. He just described Tommy.
Hmm, Tommy could totally be that. Hope he gets an invite to the combine if he hasn't already.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by nanacat » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm

Any idea, with his numbers and multiple awards, why Tommy hasn't received any invites to post season competitions?



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by AFCAT » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:25 pm

nanacat wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm
Any idea, with his numbers and multiple awards, why Tommy hasn't received any invites to post season competitions?
It would be nice to have been selected, but it also doesn't matter. There are only so many slots. People have been drafted that never went to post season competitions or games. Daniel Hardy being one of them.


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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by MSU01 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:29 pm

nanacat wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm
Any idea, with his numbers and multiple awards, why Tommy hasn't received any invites to post season competitions?
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I'd guess because his future in the NFL, if there is one, will almost certainly not be as a full-time quarterback. Tommy will make a roster based on his athleticism which he'll get a great chance to show off at Pro Day and in any private workouts he might do for teams who are interested.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by nanacat » Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:23 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:25 pm
nanacat wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm
Any idea, with his numbers and multiple awards, why Tommy hasn't received any invites to post season competitions?
It would be nice to have been selected, but it also doesn't matter. There are only so many slots. People have been drafted that never went to post season competitions or games. Daniel Hardy being one of them.
Sure, good point.



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Re: Update on Tommy

Post by nanacat » Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:24 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:29 pm
nanacat wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm
Any idea, with his numbers and multiple awards, why Tommy hasn't received any invites to post season competitions?
'

I'd guess because his future in the NFL, if there is one, will almost certainly not be as a full-time quarterback. Tommy will make a roster based on his athleticism which he'll get a great chance to show off at Pro Day and in any private workouts he might do for teams who are interested.
That makes sense.



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