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What is the QB Outlook

Post by mule » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:53 am

So, what is your view on who and why on QB going forward?



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by MSU01 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:17 am

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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:25 am

Outlook is, we have heard to be patient about a QB transferring in by a certain poster, who has been fairly accurate to this point. Who this possibly is, we don’t know. I’m not sure if any coaches are following RJ Martinez on twitter, he’s still available. Probably will not hear anything until the February signing day.

Some guys currently on the roster still have a damn good Chance to be that guy. My 2 cents is, if we did not bring a transfer, this would be a battle between Chance and River. Despite River basically sitting out a year, he’s been working extremely hard with private coaches, and I’m sure he has a copy of our playbook. If he is able to adjust to live play at the college level quickly he has a good chance. With the 1st game against the Ducks, whoever it is, may the force be with them, as Idaho had to just go and piss them off last year, we will not be taken nearly as lightly.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by GoCats18 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:34 am

I wouldn’t be surprised to see one (maybe two) of them leave in the next round of the portal being open. Especially if we do try and bring in someone that has game time experience.


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:01 am

SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:25 am

Some guys currently on the roster still have a damn good Chance to be that guy.
I don’t know where to Vigen. Don’t Reed too much into what I’m about to say, but if you Duchein everything together, then there’s a good Chance that MSU will be very good at quarterback. Considering all the talent at the position I don’t think the Bobcats will be up a River.


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by kwcat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:17 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:01 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:25 am

Some guys currently on the roster still have a damn good Chance to be that guy.
I don’t know where to Vigen. Don’t Reed too much into what I’m about to say, but if you Duchein everything together, then there’s a good Chance that MSU will be very good at quarterback. Considering all the talent at the position I don’t think the Bobcats will be up a River.
A bit of a stretch but well done, Tom!



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:51 am

kwcat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:01 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:25 am

Some guys currently on the roster still have a damn good Chance to be that guy.
I don’t know where to Vigen. Don’t Reed too much into what I’m about to say, but if you Duchein everything together, then there’s a good Chance that MSU will be very good at quarterback. Considering all the talent at the position I don’t think the Bobcats will be up a River.
A bit of a stretch but well done, Tom!
Damn!!! Love it. I just always feel like I’m typing what QB the will have a chance this year and cheesy sense of humor chuckles that we have a Chance on the roster so I dad joked it.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by Bobcatsinmso » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:09 am

GoCats18 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:34 am
I wouldn’t be surprised to see one (maybe two) of them leave in the next round of the portal being open. Especially if we do try and bring in someone that has game time experience.
I would not be surprised to see one of the QB's currently on the roster develop into a top 3 finalist for the Walter Payton award again, while on the Bobcat football team going forward. :wink:


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by superbobcat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:49 am

While I believe the 25 team will be competitive, I think it will a year to grow and develop our young talent. I don't think bringing in mature QB is the answer. It looks good, but doesn't always work, as the griz have found out .



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:40 pm

superbobcat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:49 am
While I believe the 25 team will be competitive, I think it will a year to grow and develop our young talent. I don't think bringing in mature QB is the answer. It looks good, but doesn't always work, as the griz have found out .
Agree and disagree. Agree that developing talent, especially at the QB spot is key, where I disagree is that it doesn’t always work. This staff has been extremely careful to bring in portal players that match the team’s chemistry, they bring in players with great character. Griz literally cast out a large net and take who ever bites. I trust if we bring someone in they will be great, much like Chambers was, of course he had a history with Vigen, he also is of high character.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:56 pm

I predict that whoever plays QB for MSU this season will be at least slightly better, statistically, than Matt McKay and a much better overall decision-maker than McKay. In case that worries you, McKay was a 150+ pass efficiency guy (Gronowski: 147.3 in 2024) and only threw 3 interceptions. He also averaged 4.1 yards per carry and had 316 yards rushing in 11 games (Cam Miller: 4.4/631 in 16 games; Gronowski: 3.9/380 in 15 games).


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by Lord Vigo » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:57 pm

I expect a veteran transfer who will take the majority of the snaps in 2025 while Wilson and Warren compete to be the future.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by PapaG » Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:49 pm

Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:09 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:34 am
I wouldn’t be surprised to see one (maybe two) of them leave in the next round of the portal being open. Especially if we do try and bring in someone that has game time experience.
I would not be surprised to see one of the QB's currently on the roster develop into a top 3 finalist for the Walter Payton award again, while on the Bobcat football team going forward. :wink:
I’ll be totally surprised but in a great way.


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by GoCats18 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:37 pm

I think that bringing in a portal QB only makes your QB room and QB competition for the starter that much better. Nobody is guaranteed to be the starter, so let them prove who is the best come week 1.


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by Deepball » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:45 pm

Im super intrigued by the incoming freshman Warren. I watched his highlights and was able to find a couple of full game films online. This kid is the real deal. He is a very good passer and an efficient runner. Based on everything I read he played a very high level of high school football. I think this kid might be our next QB. Another thing I love is he turned Colorado state and Toledo down on signing day. I guess they made a late push to flip him but he didn’t budge which means he truly wants to be here.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by Montanabob » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:08 pm

Deepball wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:45 pm
Im super intrigued by the incoming freshman Warren. I watched his highlights and was able to find a couple of full game films online. This kid is the real deal. He is a very good passer and an efficient runner. Based on everything I read he played a very high level of high school football. I think this kid might be our next QB. Another thing I love is he turned Colorado state and Toledo down on signing day. I guess they made a late push to flip him but he didn’t budge which means he truly wants to be here.
he turned em down because he wanted a better offer that didn't come.


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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:17 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:08 pm
Deepball wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:45 pm
Im super intrigued by the incoming freshman Warren. I watched his highlights and was able to find a couple of full game films online. This kid is the real deal. He is a very good passer and an efficient runner. Based on everything I read he played a very high level of high school football. I think this kid might be our next QB. Another thing I love is he turned Colorado state and Toledo down on signing day. I guess they made a late push to flip him but he didn’t budge which means he truly wants to be here.
he turned em down because he wanted a better offer that didn't come.
If true that he turned them down on signing day, that means those offers came in the same time as ours…

I think he’ll be the real deal, the article about him shows great maturity about his waiting for a better offer, and it not arriving. However, if he comes and knocks it out of the park, I’m guessing he’ll be hoping for a bigger program again.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by kwcat » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:30 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:56 pm
I predict that whoever plays QB for MSU this season will be at least slightly better, statistically, than Matt McKay and a much better overall decision-maker than McKay. In case that worries you, McKay was a 150+ pass efficiency guy (Gronowski: 147.3 in 2024) and only threw 3 interceptions. He also averaged 4.1 yards per carry and had 316 yards rushing in 11 games (Cam Miller: 4.4/631 in 16 games; Gronowski: 3.9/380 in 15 games).
McKay was a pretty decent quarterback. And I maintain that until he took the one specific hit in the Weeber State game. And it seemed to flip a switch that he didn’t get over. Don’t know if it was injury or what. But that seem to be the tipping point.



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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by Cats and Dogs » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:32 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:40 pm
superbobcat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:49 am
While I believe the 25 team will be competitive, I think it will a year to grow and develop our young talent. I don't think bringing in mature QB is the answer. It looks good, but doesn't always work, as the griz have found out .
Agree and disagree. Agree that developing talent, especially at the QB spot is key, where I disagree is that it doesn’t always work. This staff has been extremely careful to bring in portal players that match the team’s chemistry, they bring in players with great character. Griz literally cast out a large net and take who ever bites. I trust if we bring someone in they will be great, much like Chambers was, of course he had a history with Vigen, he also is of high character.
Cats won't be taking a year off to grow and develop young talent, imo! That's not the expectations for anyone, AD, Fan Base, Coaches, Players. This program is now built to compete annually for BSC and National Championships. If the staff feels like they don't have the pieces to do that they will look to the portal for those pieces. If that includes the QB position then I see them bringing in a QB or Safety or Linebacker, etc. There are no more rebuilding years. Expectations should be to end the 2025 season in Nashville. It's a year at a time deal now in College sports. All in!
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Re: What is the QB Outlook

Post by jgrilley406 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:22 pm

Cats and Dogs wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:32 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:40 pm
superbobcat wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:49 am
While I believe the 25 team will be competitive, I think it will a year to grow and develop our young talent. I don't think bringing in mature QB is the answer. It looks good, but doesn't always work, as the griz have found out .
Agree and disagree. Agree that developing talent, especially at the QB spot is key, where I disagree is that it doesn’t always work. This staff has been extremely careful to bring in portal players that match the team’s chemistry, they bring in players with great character. Griz literally cast out a large net and take who ever bites. I trust if we bring someone in they will be great, much like Chambers was, of course he had a history with Vigen, he also is of high character.
Cats won't be taking a year off to grow and develop young talent, imo! That's not the expectations for anyone, AD, Fan Base, Coaches, Players. This program is now built to compete annually for BSC and National Championships. If the staff feels like they don't have the pieces to do that they will look to the portal for those pieces. If that includes the QB position then I see them bringing in a QB or Safety or Linebacker, etc. There are no more rebuilding years. Expectations should be to end the 2025 season in Nashville. It's a year at a time deal now in College sports. All in!
Go Cats!
Agree, if SDSU/USD didn’t get hit with the coaching changes and players leaving cause of it, I’d say cats would have a difficult road back to championship. NDSU is going to start and more than likely remain ahead of rest of the teams but other than that, the remaining four teams fighting for a semifinal spot is wide open (MSU, UM, SDSU, USD). UM is going to be a tough out just cause of that stadium, but I just don’t think that these transfer are going to better than what they lost, especially defensively. Also losing Bergen will hurt their special teams, but they always seem to have someone back returning kicks that makes the special teams a real weapon (Nguyen, JLM, Flowers, Sulser, Bergen, etc.). I fully expect cat/griz winner will get home field throughout and depending on how close the game is could possibly have a possible rematch in the semis but assuming road game to Fargo for the loser.



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