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When the QBs warmup pregame, you'd think Reed is the starting QB if you'd never been to a Cat game before. His throws make everyone else look like HS QBs.CodyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pmI love hearing that. I think it was you that mentioned he throws one of the nicest footballs you've seen. I had the same thought every time he dropped back.
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But then in actual games, I've seen plenty of dirt balls. Pat Duchien actually had some of the nicest throws in the spring game in 2024. I think Chance Wilson is going to be given every opportunity to win this job. Also 99.99% certain we hear about an incoming QB transfer in the next one or two weeks.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhen the QBs warmup pregame, you'd think Reed is the starting QB if you'd never been to a Cat game before. His throws make everyone else look like HS QBs.CodyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pmI love hearing that. I think it was you that mentioned he throws one of the nicest footballs you've seen. I had the same thought every time he dropped back.
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Lamson?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:09 pmBut then in actual games, I've seen plenty of dirt balls. Pat Duchien actually had some of the nicest throws in the spring game in 2024. I think Chance Wilson is going to be given every opportunity to win this job. Also 99.99% certain we hear about an incoming QB transfer in the next one or two weeks.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhen the QBs warmup pregame, you'd think Reed is the starting QB if you'd never been to a Cat game before. His throws make everyone else look like HS QBs.CodyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pmI love hearing that. I think it was you that mentioned he throws one of the nicest footballs you've seen. I had the same thought every time he dropped back.
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I think Duchien looks the part but needs to be faster. Maybe that will not happen.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:09 pmBut then in actual games, I've seen plenty of dirt balls. Pat Duchien actually had some of the nicest throws in the spring game in 2024. I think Chance Wilson is going to be given every opportunity to win this job. Also 99.99% certain we hear about an incoming QB transfer in the next one or two weeks.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhen the QBs warmup pregame, you'd think Reed is the starting QB if you'd never been to a Cat game before. His throws make everyone else look like HS QBs.CodyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pmI love hearing that. I think it was you that mentioned he throws one of the nicest footballs you've seen. I had the same thought every time he dropped back.
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I actually hope Pat gets a shot. He's a well built athlete now two years in and he's not a bad QB at all. A sneaky candidate if you ask me.kwcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:14 pmI think Duchien looks the part but needs to be faster. Maybe that will not happen.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:09 pmBut then in actual games, I've seen plenty of dirt balls. Pat Duchien actually had some of the nicest throws in the spring game in 2024. I think Chance Wilson is going to be given every opportunity to win this job. Also 99.99% certain we hear about an incoming QB transfer in the next one or two weeks.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhen the QBs warmup pregame, you'd think Reed is the starting QB if you'd never been to a Cat game before. His throws make everyone else look like HS QBs.CodyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pmI love hearing that. I think it was you that mentioned he throws one of the nicest footballs you've seen. I had the same thought every time he dropped back.
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Yup.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:09 pmBut then in actual games, I've seen plenty of dirt balls.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhen the QBs warmup pregame, you'd think Reed is the starting QB if you'd never been to a Cat game before. His throws make everyone else look like HS QBs.CodyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pmI love hearing that. I think it was you that mentioned he throws one of the nicest footballs you've seen. I had the same thought every time he dropped back.
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Most probably thought he'd be out the door when Chance took over as QB2 during the season but I wonder if that was more due to playing style. We were probably more comfortable running the existing playbook with Chance (QB run/RPO) than Reed. With Tommy's influence on the playbook no longer applicable maybe the 2025 playbook is wide open for spring ball and then gets refined based on who is at the top going into the summer. In that case, the room is largely starting over and Reed has a chance to win the job. If he isn't at least QB2 after spring then I would think he'd be out the door.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhy would he? He’s going to be competing for the QB job for a top FCS job. If he transfers, it’s likely after spring ball or after we bring in a high caliber transfer.
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It could also depend quite a lot on who the new OC is and if they have a preferred style they like to run that may fit Reed's skills better than the 2023 and 2024 offenses did.coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:37 pmMost probably thought he'd be out the door when Chance took over as QB2 during the season but I wonder if that was more due to playing style. We were probably more comfortable running the existing playbook with Chance (QB run/RPO) than Reed. With Tommy's influence on the playbook no longer applicable maybe the 2025 playbook is wide open for spring ball and then gets refined based on who is at the top going into the summer. In that case, the room is largely starting over and Reed has a chance to win the job. If he isn't at least QB2 after spring then I would think he'd be out the door.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhy would he? He’s going to be competing for the QB job for a top FCS job. If he transfers, it’s likely after spring ball or after we bring in a high caliber transfer.
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I agree with this take. On the other hand, one would think Vigen will be looking for an OC that fits the cards he’s holding in his hand.MSU01 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:39 pmIt could also depend quite a lot on who the new OC is and if they have a preferred style they like to run that may fit Reed's skills better than the 2023 and 2024 offenses did.coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:37 pmMost probably thought he'd be out the door when Chance took over as QB2 during the season but I wonder if that was more due to playing style. We were probably more comfortable running the existing playbook with Chance (QB run/RPO) than Reed. With Tommy's influence on the playbook no longer applicable maybe the 2025 playbook is wide open for spring ball and then gets refined based on who is at the top going into the summer. In that case, the room is largely starting over and Reed has a chance to win the job. If he isn't at least QB2 after spring then I would think he'd be out the door.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhy would he? He’s going to be competing for the QB job for a top FCS job. If he transfers, it’s likely after spring ball or after we bring in a high caliber transfer.
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I love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
Maybe have some faith in what the coaches are doing. It's very likely our next leader has already taken snaps in a Bobcat uniform.
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+1. Was thinking the same thing!Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:45 pmI love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
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agreed. There is talent in that room! Can't wait for next year!Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:45 pmI love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
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True but everyone can also understand Tommy was a special athlete. In 21 we were doing anything to get him on the field. Not saying our current QBs aren’t good but I also don’t believe these guys are on the level that Tommy was as far as athletic ability and decision making. Without a doubt any of these guys can be phenomenal QBs and we won’t get a kid, leader, and QB combined like Tommy for a while.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:45 pmI love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
Maybe have some faith in what the coaches are doing. It's very likely our next leader has already taken snaps in a Bobcat uniform.
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This was my thought when the change was made. I am sure the coaches remember when Tommy got hurt, in the first championship game, and the backup was a totally different player.coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:37 pmMost probably thought he'd be out the door when Chance took over as QB2 during the season but I wonder if that was more due to playing style. We were probably more comfortable running the existing playbook with Chance (QB run/RPO) than Reed. With Tommy's influence on the playbook no longer applicable maybe the 2025 playbook is wide open for spring ball and then gets refined based on who is at the top going into the summer. In that case, the room is largely starting over and Reed has a chance to win the job. If he isn't at least QB2 after spring then I would think he'd be out the door.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:07 pmWhy would he? He’s going to be competing for the QB job for a top FCS job. If he transfers, it’s likely after spring ball or after we bring in a high caliber transfer.
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Am I correct that river Warren will be here this semester and involved in spring ball?
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I think Sean Chambers will be spending the most time with the QB room of any coach.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:59 pmAs a head coach, how much does Vigen actually spend working with the QB’s? As a QB coach with both NDSU and Wyoming, he was able to focus solely on developing a QB. So, what role does he actually have now? I think the biggest question facing the future is what style of QB do we want to run the offense.
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Yeah, it kinda cracks me up. The last two transfer QBs were Tyler Bruggman who REALLY struggled to put it mildly and Matt McKay, who was actually a pretty decent QB who lead the Cats to a 9-1 FCS record, before he got benched for the Wildcat gadget player. (I guess you could put Johnson on there, even though he got moved to WR in favor of moving the starting LB to QB, but I digress)Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:45 pmI love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
Maybe have some faith in what the coaches are doing. It's very likely our next leader has already taken snaps in a Bobcat uniform.
And the rest is history.
I'd never doubt Vim on this, but I feel pretty comfortable that the roster is certainly strong enough to have a QB that should have the Cats poised for another playoff run.
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The most recent transfer QB was Sean Chambers, and it was a darn good thing they got him.onceacat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 pmYeah, it kinda cracks me up. The last two transfer QBs were Tyler Bruggman who REALLY struggled to put it mildly and Matt McKay, who was actually a pretty decent QB who lead the Cats to a 9-1 FCS record, before he got benched for the Wildcat gadget player. (I guess you could put Johnson on there, even though he got moved to WR in favor of moving the starting LB to QB, but I digress)Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:45 pmI love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
Maybe have some faith in what the coaches are doing. It's very likely our next leader has already taken snaps in a Bobcat uniform.
And the rest is history.
I'd never doubt Vim on this, but I feel pretty comfortable that the roster is certainly strong enough to have a QB that should have the Cats poised for another playoff run.
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And McKay was benched for good reason for that gadget player.Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:43 pmThe most recent transfer QB was Sean Chambers, and it was a darn good thing they got him.onceacat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 pmYeah, it kinda cracks me up. The last two transfer QBs were Tyler Bruggman who REALLY struggled to put it mildly and Matt McKay, who was actually a pretty decent QB who lead the Cats to a 9-1 FCS record, before he got benched for the Wildcat gadget player. (I guess you could put Johnson on there, even though he got moved to WR in favor of moving the starting LB to QB, but I digress)Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:45 pmI love this thread. Guys talking about the QBs we already have on the roster and saying this guy can't' do that, and that guy can't do this, and we need a transfer QB. You realize all those same things were being said 3-4 years ago about Tommy? Hell, there were some people on this board as recently as last season saying that Tommy wasn't D1 quarterback material. And now we're using words like stud, legend, un-replaceable to describe Tommy.
Maybe have some faith in what the coaches are doing. It's very likely our next leader has already taken snaps in a Bobcat uniform.
And the rest is history.
I'd never doubt Vim on this, but I feel pretty comfortable that the roster is certainly strong enough to have a QB that should have the Cats poised for another playoff run.
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