Tommy- is grad transfer an option?

[onceacat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

LOL, everyone in the country had Lamar Jackson as a 1st rounder. Nobody in the country has Tommy as a first rounder, not even his mom. Tommy is a question of "Will he get drafted".

Lamar Jackson was a finalist for the Heisman.

You are REALLY stretching the limits of 'people said' on this one.

https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... and-browns

Wrong. Bill Polian infamously said Lamar should switch to WR. He wasn't alone in questioning whether he was an NFL caliber QB. Its embarrassing how often your wrong on here.
https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/lama ... nship-game

Edited to add this. Lamar was a Heisman winning QB but wasn't selected till the dead last pick in the first round. Heck even Tebow was taken 15th and he had much worse mechanics and numbers than Lamar. I challenge you to find another Heisman winning QB taken that late in the modern era. Plenty questioned his ability to play QB in the NFL.

LOL easy. Jason White.

[onceacat]

The concern with Lamar was that what made him so good in college, his scrambling ability, would get him hurt in the league. He was fortunate to play for a very good coach in Harbaugh, and Jackson has developed his passing game a ton. He has physical and arm talent that Tommy doesn’t have. It’s not not a valid comparison.

Tommy is a great player. No reason to make outlandish comparisons like that. Just let Tommy be Tommy.

I'm not necessarily making a direct comparison. My comparison was the narratives of the 2 players. That they are both good RB's that can throw a little and that works in college but wont translate to the NFL. I don't totally disagree but I've also watched Tommy enough to know if he gets a chance he will win.

I disagree about the physical talent. LJ is a couple inches taller but Tommy is thicker and just as fast.

Arm talent.

The conference LJ played in had 2 FBS championships while he was playing. Heisman winner that everyone except Bill Polian thought was an obvious first rounder.

LJ isn’t a terrible comp, I just can’t think of an FCS player that raw that became a fixture in the NFL.

[AFCAT]

I was thinking about Tommy today.The Cats have a chance to have two Walter Payton award recipients in the same year. One in FCS football and one in the NFL. Obviously, different Payton awards, but still pretty cool.

[Prodigal Cat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

LOL, everyone in the country had Lamar Jackson as a 1st rounder. Nobody in the country has Tommy as a first rounder, not even his mom. Tommy is a question of "Will he get drafted".

Lamar Jackson was a finalist for the Heisman.

You are REALLY stretching the limits of 'people said' on this one.

https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... and-browns

Wrong. Bill Polian infamously said Lamar should switch to WR. He wasn't alone in questioning whether he was an NFL caliber QB. Its embarrassing how often your wrong on here.
https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/lama ... nship-game

Edited to add this. Lamar was a Heisman winning QB but wasn't selected till the dead last pick in the first round. Heck even Tebow was taken 15th and he had much worse mechanics and numbers than Lamar. I challenge you to find another Heisman winning QB taken that late in the modern era. Plenty questioned his ability to play QB in the NFL.

LOL easy. Jason White.

Not modern and he literally had no knees left. Try again.

[BelligerentBobcat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

LOL, everyone in the country had Lamar Jackson as a 1st rounder. Nobody in the country has Tommy as a first rounder, not even his mom. Tommy is a question of "Will he get drafted".

Lamar Jackson was a finalist for the Heisman.

You are REALLY stretching the limits of 'people said' on this one.

https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... and-browns

Wrong. Bill Polian infamously said Lamar should switch to WR. He wasn't alone in questioning whether he was an NFL caliber QB. Its embarrassing how often your wrong on here.
https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/lama ... nship-game

Edited to add this. Lamar was a Heisman winning QB but wasn't selected till the dead last pick in the first round. Heck even Tebow was taken 15th and he had much worse mechanics and numbers than Lamar. I challenge you to find another Heisman winning QB taken that late in the modern era. Plenty questioned his ability to play QB in the NFL.

LOL easy. Jason White.

Not modern and he literally had no knees left. Try again.

I suppose Troy Smith isn’t modern era either…only 10 years before Jackson won his.

I’m not a fan of reinventing history. Let’s not forget that Jackson, unlike all the other Heisman winners you’re talking about, didn’t win the Heisman the year he came out for the draft. Let’s not forget that Jackson didn’t have obvious holes in his passing game. Let’s not forget that a HUGE part of his collegiate success was running in a way that was going to happen in the league at the time. It’s no wonder he fell to the end of the 1st, there were better bets at QB in front of him. He just happened to hit. He worked hard, drastically improved his game, and really increased his accuracy.

Tommy isn’t going to be able to play like that. He didn’t even have the numbers Lamar did at a lower level of football. He runs stronger than Lamar, but Lamar is more agile, quicker, and has a much better arm. Again, none of this is a knock on Tommy, but I’m trying to show why this is a dumb argument. I love Tommy, but he doesn’t have what it takes to be an NFL QB. He’s not even a great passing QB at the FCS level. The amount he’d have to improve…what team is going to take the time to even try?! He can play in the league, but it’s not going to be at QB.

[RUACAT]

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[tetoncat]

Tommy could f*cking cure cancer and some of you would be critical.

What a stupid take. No one on here has said he isn't a great player and likely winner of the Walter Payton. The questions are if he can play in NFL. most say yes, but also most say not at QB. It's not being critical given an honest opinion of what that takes.

[onceacat]

Tommy could f*cking cure cancer and some of you would be critical.

What a stupid take. No one on here has said he isn't a great player and likely winner of the Walter Payton. The questions are if he can play in NFL. most say yes, but also most say not at QB. It's not being critical given an honest opinion of what that takes.

Hell, I even think it’s possible. Tom Brady was a 7th rounder.
Bart Starr Kurt Warner Marc Bulger, Joe Theisman…plenty of examples of low draft picks that overcome glaring deficiencies in their college game & become great QBs.

It’s not likely, but it’s possible. Tommy could obviously be a late frat pick or udfa and become a legit NFL QB.

It’s just not highly likely. He’s clearly not a Heisman winner that’s going in the 1st round like Jackson.

[Cataholic]

I have no idea what position Tommy will end up at, but two NDSU guys with similar resumes were drafted at QB. Trey Lance is 6’4”, 224 and was the 3rd overall pick, but Tommy had almost identical stats this year to Trey Lances’s 2019 season - which was his best season. Easton Stick was a 5th round pick at just 6’1” and 224. Tommy has comparable stats to Stick’s career.

I am not saying that Tommy will be a QB in the NFL (I think he could be a great slot back, maybe even running back), but he definitely will get a shot. As Colter said, his pro day numbers will get some great attention. His speed, strength, athleticism, quickness, smarts, explosiveness, all point to the NFL.

[GoldstoneCat]

Tommy could f*cking cure cancer and some of you would be critical.

What a stupid take. No one on here has said he isn't a great player and likely winner of the Walter Payton. The questions are if he can play in NFL. most say yes, but also most say not at QB. It's not being critical given an honest opinion of what that takes.

So stupid. Nobody is being critical of Tommy by saying he isn't Lamar Jackson for goodness sakes. I'm going to say this against my better judgment... Tommy, if we win this game next week, may be the greatest Bobcat of all time. Maybe not much of a debate. But he is not going to play quarterback in the NFL. He isn't. Full stop. I think he has tremendous value in the NFL as a slot guy with a ton of QB experience, bc he can be a gadget player at qb or get you out of a game in an injury situation but his future in the NFL is there. Slot receiver, teams, maybe even kick or punt return. Again...arguably or maybe inarguably the greatest Bobcat ever. No quibble from me.

[WetBreeches]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

When did I bet against Tommy preseason?

[Colter_Nuanez]

Writing an in depth profile on Tommy that we hope to have out by the weekend (it might kill me first). But I interviewed Waded Cruzado. That interview will drop on Saturday.

Here's an excerpt with her thoughts on Tommy Mellott:

“Tommy Mellott is simply amazing,” Cruzado said. “To sustain all of that pressure when you are that young is absolutely incredible. Let me take it a step forward – to see this extraordinary athlete who is totally committed to his sport but also totally committed to his academic program, that’s so wonderful for our university.

“He just finished his degree in financial engineering with a 4.0 GPA and he is devoting well over 40 hours to his sport to practice and training, first one in, last one out, and you can see an intentionality in everything he does,” Cruzado said.

“When I have been in the locker room after those games, one thing that is so clear and so impressive is that yes, Tommy is happy, but he’s not braggadocious,” Cruzado said. “He’s humble. He’s focused. There’s a sense of sustaining his teammates making sure that they are fine, that they are doing ok. That’s amazing to see.”

“When he decided not to walk for commencement because he wanted to be so singularly focused on the game that night,” Cruzado said. “So we invited the entire team to have lunch together and I wanted to make sure I was feeding them correctly. So what I did is I brought Tommy’s diploma with me and I handed it to him. Because he is an inspiration to his teammates. He’s an inspiration to the student body. And he’s an inspiration to the state of Montana.”

“And perhaps the most important part of his legacy that for four years, he remained true to Montana State University and I’m sure that many schools approached him and I ‘m sure there were many offers along the way,” Cruzado said. “But he committed to the Bobcats on Day 1 and he graduated from this school. That’s rare.”

[ilovethecats]

Awesome!

[RockyBearCat]

Thanks @Colter_Nuanez Well said and we'll delivered.

[nanacat]

Writing an in depth profile on Tommy that we hope to have out by the weekend (it might kill me first). But I interviewed Waded Cruzado. That interview will drop on Saturday.

Here's an excerpt with her thoughts on Tommy Mellott:

“Tommy Mellott is simply amazing,” Cruzado said. “To sustain all of that pressure when you are that young is absolutely incredible. Let me take it a step forward – to see this extraordinary athlete who is totally committed to his sport but also totally committed to his academic program, that’s so wonderful for our university.

“He just finished his degree in financial engineering with a 4.0 GPA and he is devoting well over 40 hours to his sport to practice and training, first one in, last one out, and you can see an intentionality in everything he does,” Cruzado said.

“When I have been in the locker room after those games, one thing that is so clear and so impressive is that yes, Tommy is happy, but he’s not braggadocious,” Cruzado said. “He’s humble. He’s focused. There’s a sense of sustaining his teammates making sure that they are fine, that they are doing ok. That’s amazing to see.”

“When he decided not to walk for commencement because he wanted to be so singularly focused on the game that night,” Cruzado said. “So we invited the entire team to have lunch together and I wanted to make sure I was feeding them correctly. So what I did is I brought Tommy’s diploma with me and I handed it to him. Because he is an inspiration to his teammates. He’s an inspiration to the student body. And he’s an inspiration to the state of Montana.”

“And perhaps the most important part of his legacy that for four years, he remained true to Montana State University and I’m sure that many schools approached him and I ‘m sure there were many offers along the way,” Cruzado said. “But he committed to the Bobcats on Day 1 and he graduated from this school. That’s rare.”

That's really great!!

[Joe Bobcat]

Your coverage with video interviews and written stories leading up to this championship game have been awesome Colter!

I don't know about anyone else, but when I read something that President Cruzado has said I can literally hear her voice and accent as I read her words.
It's crazy cool.

[rfischer94]

Your coverage with video interviews and written stories leading up to this championship game have been awesome Colter!

I don't know about anyone else, but when I read something that President Cruzado has said I can literally hear her voice and accent as I read her words.
It's crazy cool.

That's what happened when I read it.

[Bocephus]

Your coverage with video interviews and written stories leading up to this championship game have been awesome Colter!

I don't know about anyone else, but when I read something that President Cruzado has said I can literally hear her voice and accent as I read her words.
It's crazy cool.

That's what happened when I read it.

100%.

[mslacatfan]

I’m still not sure if anyone has actually answered my original post question? Hahahah

I was not asking if he should, what he wants, nfl, etc…

My question was if he (or ANYONE in his specific situation) would be able to hit the portal as a grad transfer, when looking at todays NCAA rules?

[MSU01]

I’m still not sure if anyone has actually answered my original post question? Hahahah

I was not asking if he should, what he wants, nfl, etc…

My question was if he (or ANYONE in his specific situation) would be able to hit the portal as a grad transfer, when looking at todays NCAA rules?

No, he can't. 4 years done, you can't "redshirt" once those are used up.