3 Payton Finalists revealed

[Prodigal Cat]

Shocking no one Tommy and Cam Miller are in.

[luckyirishguy25]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

[nanacat]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

Is the award based entirely on stats? Too bad if so, as that's eliminating leadership on and off the field, game time decisions, etc.

[Camo_Cat]

Congrats to Tommy! While he may not have similar stats to the other guys, they also didn't lead their teams to an undefeated season. That should count for something....

[Prodigal Cat]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

His stats are very similar to Millers. I think Miller was a lock until the loss at USD. Now going 12-0 might be the difference between the 2.

Miller Stats:
Passing: 2340 Yards 74.2% completion 23TD's 1 INT Rushing: 370 yds 7 TD's

Tommy Stats:
Passing: 1980 Yards 68.7% completion 22TD's 1 INT Rushing: 640 yds 11 TD's

[RootinfortheCats]

Tommy’s stats are great!

Compared to Miller, Tommy was on his heels in passing and far exceeded him in running.

Tommy’s stats are more impressive, IMO, to go along with an undefeated season. I think he gets it.

[rfischer94]

Is it too cynical to think Miller will get it just because he's a Bison and everyone is so enamored with that program?

[nanacat]

Is it too cynical to think Miller will get it just because he's a Bison and everyone is so enamored with that program?

It's not cynical, it's accurate. Didn't Herder already say that's how he voted?

[luckyirishguy25]

Is it too cynical to think Miller will get it just because he's a Bison and everyone is so enamored with that program?

I lean that way too, but i think Tommy is better. I'll take Tommy everyday over Miller.

[coloradocat]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

I'm not going to do the work to check but I'd bet Miller didn't play all 60 minutes in a bunch of his games as well so they might be more even there than we think. Doesn't take anything away from either one of them. They played well enough when they were on the field that they didn't have to take all the snaps.

[Lord Vigo]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

His stats are very similar to Millers. I think Miller was a lock until the loss at USD. Now going 12-0 might be the difference between the 2.

Miller Stats:
Passing: 2340 Yards 74.2% completion 23TD's 1 INT Rushing: 370 yds 7 TD's

Tommy Stats:
Passing: 1980 Yards 68.7% completion 22TD's 1 INT Rushing: 640 yds 11 TD's

To look at it more holistically:

Miller: 2710 total yards, 30 total touchdowns
Mellott: 2620 total yards, 33 total touchdowns

The statistical angle is basically a wash. Miller came up small against the best competition this season. This should be Tommy's award all the way. It probably won't be and that would be the wrong choice.

[asstastic]

One persons vote doesn’t decide this and they have very similar portfolios. Is it easy for someone to find each players yards per completion and yards per carry?

They’re both deserving of this award.

[rfischer94]

Is it too cynical to think Miller will get it just because he's a Bison and everyone is so enamored with that program?

It's not cynical, it's accurate. Didn't Herder already say that's how he voted?

Yes, he did. They are both deserving to be sure. In just tired of the Bison getting all the shine.

[asstastic]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

His stats are very similar to Millers. I think Miller was a lock until the loss at USD. Now going 12-0 might be the difference between the 2.

Miller Stats:
Passing: 2340 Yards 74.2% completion 23TD's 1 INT Rushing: 370 yds 7 TD's

Tommy Stats:
Passing: 1980 Yards 68.7% completion 22TD's 1 INT Rushing: 640 yds 11 TD's

To look at it more holistically:

Miller: 2710 total yards, 30 total touchdowns
Mellott: 2620 total yards, 33 total touchdowns

The statistical angle is basically a wash. Miller came up small against the best competition this season. This should be Tommy's award all the way. It probably won't be and that would be the wrong choice.

The argument is a good one for both directions.

Miller has a higher completion percentage, more passing yards, higher efficiency passing which isn’t by much(1st vs 3rd), and he is taller.

Mellott has yards per completion by a yard (13.3 to 12.3), more rushing yards by nearly double, and more rushing touchdown by a 1/2 but you expect that with so much more rushing yards, and he does more squats.

Hard to really gauge yards per carry because so much qb run is unscripted improv, but I bet Tommy’s would be nearly double ypc.

[BornBobcat2000]

I know that a Bobcat has never won this award, have we ever had a top 3 finalist?

[kwcat]

Was denarius McGee a finalist?

[asstastic]

Who is denarius McGee a finalist?

Insert a gif of Anchorman reading from the teleprompter here.

[onceacat]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

His stats are very similar to Millers. I think Miller was a lock until the loss at USD. Now going 12-0 might be the difference between the 2.

Miller Stats:
Passing: 2340 Yards 74.2% completion 23TD's 1 INT Rushing: 370 yds 7 TD's

Tommy Stats:
Passing: 1980 Yards 68.7% completion 22TD's 1 INT Rushing: 640 yds 11 TD's

Thats insane considering how much of the season Tommy spent on the bench.

[coloradocat]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

His stats are very similar to Millers. I think Miller was a lock until the loss at USD. Now going 12-0 might be the difference between the 2.

Miller Stats:
Passing: 2340 Yards 74.2% completion 23TD's 1 INT Rushing: 370 yds 7 TD's

Tommy Stats:
Passing: 1980 Yards 68.7% completion 22TD's 1 INT Rushing: 640 yds 11 TD's

To look at it more holistically:

Miller: 2710 total yards, 30 total touchdowns
Mellott: 2620 total yards, 33 total touchdowns

The statistical angle is basically a wash. Miller came up small against the best competition this season. This should be Tommy's award all the way. It probably won't be and that would be the wrong choice.

The argument is a good one for both directions.

Miller has a higher completion percentage, more passing yards, higher efficiency passing which isn’t by much(1st vs 3rd), and he is taller.

Mellott has yards per completion by a yard (13.3 to 12.3), more rushing yards by nearly double, and more rushing touchdown by a 1/2 but you expect that with so much more rushing yards, and he does more squats.

Hard to really gauge yards per carry because so much qb run is unscripted improv, but I bet Tommy’s would be nearly double ypc.

Squats > Height

[LTown Cat]

Unfortunately Tommy didn't play almost a quarter of the season due to all the blow outs, bad for him for this but was good for the team as a whole. Had Tommy played the second half of our games I'd say he's a shoe in, but i think he doesn't have the stats for the award.

His stats are very similar to Millers. I think Miller was a lock until the loss at USD. Now going 12-0 might be the difference between the 2.

Miller Stats:
Passing: 2340 Yards 74.2% completion 23TD's 1 INT Rushing: 370 yds 7 TD's

Tommy Stats:
Passing: 1980 Yards 68.7% completion 22TD's 1 INT Rushing: 640 yds 11 TD's

Thats insane considering how much of the season Tommy spent on the bench.

Herder listed the number of snaps each had played a few weeks ago on Twitter and it was almost identical.