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Re: Selection show

Post by RockyBearCat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:47 pm

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Agree. I think the Cats are a WAY better team across the board, in all phases. Idaho and the Griz are probably somewhat comparable.
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Re: Selection show

Post by onceacat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:04 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:14 am
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Listening to the Idaho Tubs at the Club guys and they are pissed. But they are optimistic for the MSU rematch because they, and stop me if you've heard this before, fixed their offense the last 5 weeks. *checks notes their last five games, Cal Poly, EWU, PSU, Weber, ISU.
Idaho's five straight wins since losing to MSU:

34-29 vs Cal Poly
38-28 vs EWU
39-30 at PSU
31-24 vs Weber
40-17 at ISU

Idaho should've been blowing out those teams, particularly Cal Poly and Weber, if they wanted to be able to make a stronger argument for the 6 or 7 seed. I still think they should've been #7 above Mercer but I also think it's entirely reasonable to put them at 8 or even drop them down to 9 or 10 based on how they finished the year as opposed to how they started it.
Yeah, I think sometimes fans forget how important it is to have 'style' points against overmatched opponents. Those teams aren't a lot better than the Southland teams or SoCon teams that UIW and Mercer are playing against.

I don't mean that as a knock on Idaho...just that they looked like a great team at the start of the seaon, but finished like a 7-10 seed.



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Re: Selection show

Post by onceacat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:09 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:52 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:41 pm
jgrilley406 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:45 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:25 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:14 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:09 am
Listening to the Idaho Tubs at the Club guys and they are pissed. But they are optimistic for the MSU rematch because they, and stop me if you've heard this before, fixed their offense the last 5 weeks. *checks notes their last five games, Cal Poly, EWU, PSU, Weber, ISU.
Idaho's five straight wins since losing to MSU:

34-29 vs Cal Poly
38-28 vs EWU
39-30 at PSU
31-24 vs Weber
40-17 at ISU

Idaho should've been blowing out those teams, particularly Cal Poly and Weber, if they wanted to be able to make a stronger argument for the 6 or 7 seed. I still think they should've been #7 above Mercer but I also think it's entirely reasonable to put them at 8 or even drop them down to 9 or 10 based on how they finished the year as opposed to how they started it.
The 8 was entirely due to the first month of games. Otherwise they are not a top 8 team.
Gotta remember too, Idaho was hit with the injury, as are all teams, but losing your starting qb and at times their first two QBs is a huge loss. Think the starting qb finally got back for their last game.
Wagner has started the overwhelming majority of Idahos games. Josevick or what his name was only started against the Cats because he was playing a bit better than Wagner. Cats knock him out of the game and they go back to Wagner. What I’ve seen of Layne isn’t really a major step up from Wagner. The Qb thing is a poor excuse because none of those guys are game changers and there isn’t a massive difference between them. Idaho will lucky to win 1 game in the playoffs but that’s all they can realistically expect.
Idaho beat Wyoming and their only losses are to 12-0 MSU, 11-0 Oregon, and 10-2 UC Davis. I think they should've been seeded a spot or 2 higher. I think they'll get by Richmond pretty easily before losing in Bozeman again.
Isn't that basically the record that MSU had last year & MSU was unseeded?

In my mind, theres zero meaningful difference between UIW, Idaho, and Mercer...you could have put those in any order & honestly, who cares. Same as with NDSU, SDSU, and USD. No meaningful difference.

At the end of the day, assuming those teams win their first round games, they are still paired up against MSU, SDSU, and NDSU...

So who cares?



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Re: Selection show

Post by MSU01 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:13 pm

onceacat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:09 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:52 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:41 pm
jgrilley406 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:45 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:25 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:14 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:09 am
Listening to the Idaho Tubs at the Club guys and they are pissed. But they are optimistic for the MSU rematch because they, and stop me if you've heard this before, fixed their offense the last 5 weeks. *checks notes their last five games, Cal Poly, EWU, PSU, Weber, ISU.
Idaho's five straight wins since losing to MSU:

34-29 vs Cal Poly
38-28 vs EWU
39-30 at PSU
31-24 vs Weber
40-17 at ISU

Idaho should've been blowing out those teams, particularly Cal Poly and Weber, if they wanted to be able to make a stronger argument for the 6 or 7 seed. I still think they should've been #7 above Mercer but I also think it's entirely reasonable to put them at 8 or even drop them down to 9 or 10 based on how they finished the year as opposed to how they started it.
The 8 was entirely due to the first month of games. Otherwise they are not a top 8 team.
Gotta remember too, Idaho was hit with the injury, as are all teams, but losing your starting qb and at times their first two QBs is a huge loss. Think the starting qb finally got back for their last game.
Wagner has started the overwhelming majority of Idahos games. Josevick or what his name was only started against the Cats because he was playing a bit better than Wagner. Cats knock him out of the game and they go back to Wagner. What I’ve seen of Layne isn’t really a major step up from Wagner. The Qb thing is a poor excuse because none of those guys are game changers and there isn’t a massive difference between them. Idaho will lucky to win 1 game in the playoffs but that’s all they can realistically expect.
Idaho beat Wyoming and their only losses are to 12-0 MSU, 11-0 Oregon, and 10-2 UC Davis. I think they should've been seeded a spot or 2 higher. I think they'll get by Richmond pretty easily before losing in Bozeman again.
Isn't that basically the record that MSU had last year & MSU was unseeded?

In my mind, theres zero meaningful difference between UIW, Idaho, and Mercer...you could have put those in any order & honestly, who cares. Same as with NDSU, SDSU, and USD. No meaningful difference.

At the end of the day, assuming those teams win their first round games, they are still paired up against MSU, SDSU, and NDSU...

So who cares?
MSU was the 6 seed last year. I agree that there isn't much difference between those three teams, there was really a big drop-off after the Top 5 this year.



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Re: Selection show

Post by tetoncat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:37 pm

onceacat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:09 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:52 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:41 pm
jgrilley406 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:45 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:25 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:14 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:09 am
Listening to the Idaho Tubs at the Club guys and they are pissed. But they are optimistic for the MSU rematch because they, and stop me if you've heard this before, fixed their offense the last 5 weeks. *checks notes their last five games, Cal Poly, EWU, PSU, Weber, ISU.
Idaho's five straight wins since losing to MSU:

34-29 vs Cal Poly
38-28 vs EWU
39-30 at PSU
31-24 vs Weber
40-17 at ISU

Idaho should've been blowing out those teams, particularly Cal Poly and Weber, if they wanted to be able to make a stronger argument for the 6 or 7 seed. I still think they should've been #7 above Mercer but I also think it's entirely reasonable to put them at 8 or even drop them down to 9 or 10 based on how they finished the year as opposed to how they started it.
The 8 was entirely due to the first month of games. Otherwise they are not a top 8 team.
Gotta remember too, Idaho was hit with the injury, as are all teams, but losing your starting qb and at times their first two QBs is a huge loss. Think the starting qb finally got back for their last game.
Wagner has started the overwhelming majority of Idahos games. Josevick or what his name was only started against the Cats because he was playing a bit better than Wagner. Cats knock him out of the game and they go back to Wagner. What I’ve seen of Layne isn’t really a major step up from Wagner. The Qb thing is a poor excuse because none of those guys are game changers and there isn’t a massive difference between them. Idaho will lucky to win 1 game in the playoffs but that’s all they can realistically expect.
Idaho beat Wyoming and their only losses are to 12-0 MSU, 11-0 Oregon, and 10-2 UC Davis. I think they should've been seeded a spot or 2 higher. I think they'll get by Richmond pretty easily before losing in Bozeman again.
Isn't that basically the record that MSU had last year & MSU was unseeded?

In my mind, theres zero meaningful difference between UIW, Idaho, and Mercer...you could have put those in any order & honestly, who cares. Same as with NDSU, SDSU, and USD. No meaningful difference.

At the end of the day, assuming those teams win their first round games, they are still paired up against MSU, SDSU, and NDSU...

So who cares?
Only reason to care is I like seeing matchups against non BSC teams. I think it adds to the fun of playoffs.


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Re: Selection show

Post by GoCats18 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am

Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho


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Re: Selection show

Post by grizzh8r » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm

GoCats18 wrote:
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Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.


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Re: Selection show

Post by tetoncat » Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:58 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Agree.


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Re: Selection show

Post by GoCats18 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.


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Re: Selection show

Post by HiLineCat » Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:21 pm

If we play Richmond they will be flying west two weeks in a row. That's tough on any team, alot of travel time in one week.



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Re: Selection show

Post by RUACAT » Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:59 am

HiLineCat wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:21 pm
If we play Richmond they will be flying west two weeks in a row. That's tough on any team, alot of travel time in one week.
Plus the 90 minute bus ride from Spokane to the Palouse and back

Edit: I see Pullman/Moscow regional terminal had an upgrade in May 2024 and they accommodate charter flights for Idaho and WSU so maybe teams fly there directly now?



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Re: Selection show

Post by nanacat » Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am

GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though



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Re: Selection show

Post by catatac » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.


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Re: Selection show

Post by ilovethecats » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:23 am

catatac wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.
Thank you! I was worried me and BB were gonna have to do the heavy lifting again!

We’ll roll in our first game by about 27-30.

We’ll beat Idaho if they get there by another 20-23.

I actually love South Dakota. I think they’re a hell of a team. If they come to Bozeman we win by 20.

I’ll make Frisco prediction after Christmas.



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Re: Selection show

Post by catatac » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:50 am

ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:23 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.
Thank you! I was worried me and BB were gonna have to do the heavy lifting again!

We’ll roll in our first game by about 27-30.

We’ll beat Idaho if they get there by another 20-23.

I actually love South Dakota. I think they’re a hell of a team. If they come to Bozeman we win by 20.

I’ll make Frisco prediction after Christmas.
South Dakota looks like a damn good team. Beat NDSU, damn near beat SDSU in Brookings but lost in overtime. Hung in there with Wisconsin. No other blemishes, and they flat out dominated most of the FCS teams they played.


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Re: Selection show

Post by ilovethecats » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:48 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:50 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:23 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.
Thank you! I was worried me and BB were gonna have to do the heavy lifting again!

We’ll roll in our first game by about 27-30.

We’ll beat Idaho if they get there by another 20-23.

I actually love South Dakota. I think they’re a hell of a team. If they come to Bozeman we win by 20.

I’ll make Frisco prediction after Christmas.
South Dakota looks like a damn good team. Beat NDSU, damn near beat SDSU in Brookings but lost in overtime. Hung in there with Wisconsin. No other blemishes, and they flat out dominated most of the FCS teams they played.
I agree.



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Re: Selection show

Post by VimSince03 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:39 pm

ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:48 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:50 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:23 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.
Thank you! I was worried me and BB were gonna have to do the heavy lifting again!

We’ll roll in our first game by about 27-30.

We’ll beat Idaho if they get there by another 20-23.

I actually love South Dakota. I think they’re a hell of a team. If they come to Bozeman we win by 20.

I’ll make Frisco prediction after Christmas.
South Dakota looks like a damn good team. Beat NDSU, damn near beat SDSU in Brookings but lost in overtime. Hung in there with Wisconsin. No other blemishes, and they flat out dominated most of the FCS teams they played.
I agree.
They're running game runs through Thies #5 and their QB is a tall, lanky lefty. Good WR. Decent OL. Defense plays really hard.

I think we beat them by 14 at home...


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Re: Selection show

Post by ilovethecats » Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:51 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:39 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:48 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:50 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:23 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.
Thank you! I was worried me and BB were gonna have to do the heavy lifting again!

We’ll roll in our first game by about 27-30.

We’ll beat Idaho if they get there by another 20-23.

I actually love South Dakota. I think they’re a hell of a team. If they come to Bozeman we win by 20.

I’ll make Frisco prediction after Christmas.
South Dakota looks like a damn good team. Beat NDSU, damn near beat SDSU in Brookings but lost in overtime. Hung in there with Wisconsin. No other blemishes, and they flat out dominated most of the FCS teams they played.
I agree.
They're running game runs through Thies #5 and their QB is a tall, lanky lefty. Good WR. Decent OL. Defense plays really hard.

I think we beat them by 14 at home...
I still like 20. 8)



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Re: Selection show

Post by Prodigal Cat » Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:30 am

Grace the D end is pretty dang good as well.


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Re: Selection show

Post by CodyCat » Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:43 am

ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:23 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:08 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:13 am
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:51 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:33 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:38 am
Don’t be surprised if Richmond shows up in Bozeman instead of Idaho
I'd take this every day and twice on Sundays. I like seeing new opponents in the playoffs. Detest playing conference foes again.
Idaho hasn’t done much since we beat them. They aren’t blowing teams out that they should be winning by a couple touchdowns. They also tend to struggle in the playoffs, based on the past. I think we would do the same thing to Idaho we did last time we played them. Davis might be a tougher rematch than last time.
We're a different team in Bozeman though
I was gonna say... we had them dominated, 30 to 8 with what, six minutes left in the game, at their place, and now they're gonna come to Bozeman and take us to the wire? I don't think so. I mean sure it's possible but that game would probably be a blowout.
Thank you! I was worried me and BB were gonna have to do the heavy lifting again!

We’ll roll in our first game by about 27-30.

We’ll beat Idaho if they get there by another 20-23.

I actually love South Dakota. I think they’re a hell of a team. If they come to Bozeman we win by 20.

I’ll make Frisco prediction after Christmas.
I feel pretty similar. The Cats should ease their way into the SF. 2nd Round and QF should be easy wins. And that puts the Cats into the SF. From there, anything can happen. USD is really good. They beat the Bison, which is something the Cats havent done in the modern era. So, I would expect a really hard fought game against them.


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