Guesses at Seeding
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Guesses at Seeding
1. MSU
2-5 XDSU, USD, UCD (if they win)
6-8 Mercer, Idaho, UIW/Richmond
9-16 UIW/Richmond, Rhode Island, SEMO, UM, Tarleton St, Illinois St, Villanova, maybe ACU
My guess
1. MSU
2. SDSU
3. NDSU
4. USD
5. UCD (should win)
6. Mercer
7. Idaho (should win)
8. Richmond
9. UIW
10. Rhode Island
11. Illinois St
12. Villanova
13. UM
14. Tarleton St
15. SEMO
16. ACU
2-5 XDSU, USD, UCD (if they win)
6-8 Mercer, Idaho, UIW/Richmond
9-16 UIW/Richmond, Rhode Island, SEMO, UM, Tarleton St, Illinois St, Villanova, maybe ACU
My guess
1. MSU
2. SDSU
3. NDSU
4. USD
5. UCD (should win)
6. Mercer
7. Idaho (should win)
8. Richmond
9. UIW
10. Rhode Island
11. Illinois St
12. Villanova
13. UM
14. Tarleton St
15. SEMO
16. ACU
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Re: Guesses at Seeding
MSU
SDSU
NDSU
UCD
USD…think they give SDSU the two seed just to give the possible rematch game in Brookings this time.
SDSU
NDSU
UCD
USD…think they give SDSU the two seed just to give the possible rematch game in Brookings this time.
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Re: Guesses at Seeding
Interesting take but makes sense. I would hope NDSU gets punished for losing the last game of the season and therefore has to travel to Brookings. Only right/fair.jgrilley406 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pmMSU
SDSU
NDSU
UCD
USD…think they give SDSU the two seed just to give the possible rematch game in Brookings this time.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling that MVFC bias will pu USD at #4 and UCD at #5. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Re: Guesses at Seeding
If I had a vote, my top 16 would be:
1) MSU
2) NDSU
3) SDSU
4) USD
5) UC Davis
6) Idaho
7) Mercer
8 ) Incarnate Word
9) Richmond
10) Rhode Island
11) Villanova
12) Tarleton State
13) Montana
14) Illinois State
15) SE Missouri
16) Abilene Christian
Unseeded Autobids: Central Connecticut State, Drake, Lehigh
At-Large Bids: Northern Arizona, UT-Martin, New Hampshire, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State
The Bracket
(1) MSU
(16) Ablilene Christian vs Tennessee State
(8) Incarnate Word
(9) Richmond vs UT-Martin
(4) South Dakota
(13) Montana vs New Hampshire
(5) UC Davis
(12) Tarleton State vs NAU
(2) NDSU
(15) SE Missouri vs E. Kentucky
(7) Mercer
(10) Rhode Island vs Central Conn. St.
(3) SDSU
(14) Illinois State vs Drake
(6) Idaho
(11) Villanova vs Lehigh
1) MSU
2) NDSU
3) SDSU
4) USD
5) UC Davis
6) Idaho
7) Mercer
8 ) Incarnate Word
9) Richmond
10) Rhode Island
11) Villanova
12) Tarleton State
13) Montana
14) Illinois State
15) SE Missouri
16) Abilene Christian
Unseeded Autobids: Central Connecticut State, Drake, Lehigh
At-Large Bids: Northern Arizona, UT-Martin, New Hampshire, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State
The Bracket
(1) MSU
(16) Ablilene Christian vs Tennessee State
(8) Incarnate Word
(9) Richmond vs UT-Martin
(4) South Dakota
(13) Montana vs New Hampshire
(5) UC Davis
(12) Tarleton State vs NAU
(2) NDSU
(15) SE Missouri vs E. Kentucky
(7) Mercer
(10) Rhode Island vs Central Conn. St.
(3) SDSU
(14) Illinois State vs Drake
(6) Idaho
(11) Villanova vs Lehigh
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I'm curious why you would give USD the 4 seed?MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:39 pmIf I had a vote, my top 16 would be:
1) MSU
2) NDSU
3) SDSU
4) USD
5) UC Davis
6) Idaho
7) Mercer
8 ) Incarnate Word
9) Richmond
10) Rhode Island
11) Villanova
12) Tarleton State
13) Montana
14) Illinois State
15) SE Missouri
16) Abilene Christian
Unseeded Autobids: Central Connecticut State, Drake, Lehigh
At-Large Bids: Northern Arizona, UT-Martin, New Hampshire, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State
The Bracket
(1) MSU
(16) Ablilene Christian vs Tennessee State
(8) Incarnate Word
(9) Richmond vs UT-Martin
(4) South Dakota
(13) Montana vs New Hampshire
(5) UC Davis
(12) Tarleton State vs NAU
(2) NDSU
(15) SE Missouri vs E. Kentucky
(7) Mercer
(10) Rhode Island vs Central Conn. St.
(3) SDSU
(14) Illinois State vs Drake
(6) Idaho
(11) Villanova vs Lehigh
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I mean they should’ve beat SDSU and did beat NDSU. Plus UCD hurt themselves by not killing SacBleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:42 pmI'm curious why you would give USD the 4 seed?MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:39 pmIf I had a vote, my top 16 would be:
1) MSU
2) NDSU
3) SDSU
4) USD
5) UC Davis
6) Idaho
7) Mercer
8 ) Incarnate Word
9) Richmond
10) Rhode Island
11) Villanova
12) Tarleton State
13) Montana
14) Illinois State
15) SE Missouri
16) Abilene Christian
Unseeded Autobids: Central Connecticut State, Drake, Lehigh
At-Large Bids: Northern Arizona, UT-Martin, New Hampshire, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State
The Bracket
(1) MSU
(16) Ablilene Christian vs Tennessee State
(8) Incarnate Word
(9) Richmond vs UT-Martin
(4) South Dakota
(13) Montana vs New Hampshire
(5) UC Davis
(12) Tarleton State vs NAU
(2) NDSU
(15) SE Missouri vs E. Kentucky
(7) Mercer
(10) Rhode Island vs Central Conn. St.
(3) SDSU
(14) Illinois State vs Drake
(6) Idaho
(11) Villanova vs Lehigh
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The eye test, I was not overly impressed by UC Davis in their last two games. IMO they aren't quite as good as the three MVFC teams even if their resume on paper says they are. Barely beating a 3-8 team by 3 points is not going to impress the selection committee, it's not all about computer ratings and SoS.
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USD has the weakest resume of the Dakotas. Only one ranked win, and only 8 D1 winsBleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:42 pmI'm curious why you would give USD the 4 seed?MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:39 pmIf I had a vote, my top 16 would be:
1) MSU
2) NDSU
3) SDSU
4) USD
5) UC Davis
6) Idaho
7) Mercer
8 ) Incarnate Word
9) Richmond
10) Rhode Island
11) Villanova
12) Tarleton State
13) Montana
14) Illinois State
15) SE Missouri
16) Abilene Christian
Unseeded Autobids: Central Connecticut State, Drake, Lehigh
At-Large Bids: Northern Arizona, UT-Martin, New Hampshire, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State
The Bracket
(1) MSU
(16) Ablilene Christian vs Tennessee State
(8) Incarnate Word
(9) Richmond vs UT-Martin
(4) South Dakota
(13) Montana vs New Hampshire
(5) UC Davis
(12) Tarleton State vs NAU
(2) NDSU
(15) SE Missouri vs E. Kentucky
(7) Mercer
(10) Rhode Island vs Central Conn. St.
(3) SDSU
(14) Illinois State vs Drake
(6) Idaho
(11) Villanova vs Lehigh
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I guess I don't understand. South Dakota barely beat 4-8 Youngstown, and got pushed hard by 5-7 North Dakota. Why should UC Davis be punished for their close wins over bad teams, but not USD? If it's not all about SOS and computer rankings, then UC Davis absolutely should be seeded above USD.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:48 pmThe eye test, I was not overly impressed by UC Davis in their last two games. IMO they aren't quite as good as the three MVFC teams even if their resume on paper says they are. Barely beating a 3-8 team by 3 points is not going to impress the selection committee, it's not all about computer ratings and SoS.
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Yes, but Davis has 2 top wins, and 10 DI wins. I don't see the argument for USD AT ALL! They have shouldn't have been that close wins over Youngstown and UND, so why do they get a pass for that, but not Davis? The argument for USD makes absolutely no sense, no matter how you slice it.Monymony wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:46 pmI mean they should’ve beat SDSU and did beat NDSU. Plus UCD hurt themselves by not killing SacBleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:42 pmI'm curious why you would give USD the 4 seed?MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:39 pmIf I had a vote, my top 16 would be:
1) MSU
2) NDSU
3) SDSU
4) USD
5) UC Davis
6) Idaho
7) Mercer
8 ) Incarnate Word
9) Richmond
10) Rhode Island
11) Villanova
12) Tarleton State
13) Montana
14) Illinois State
15) SE Missouri
16) Abilene Christian
Unseeded Autobids: Central Connecticut State, Drake, Lehigh
At-Large Bids: Northern Arizona, UT-Martin, New Hampshire, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State
The Bracket
(1) MSU
(16) Ablilene Christian vs Tennessee State
(8) Incarnate Word
(9) Richmond vs UT-Martin
(4) South Dakota
(13) Montana vs New Hampshire
(5) UC Davis
(12) Tarleton State vs NAU
(2) NDSU
(15) SE Missouri vs E. Kentucky
(7) Mercer
(10) Rhode Island vs Central Conn. St.
(3) SDSU
(14) Illinois State vs Drake
(6) Idaho
(11) Villanova vs Lehigh
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I would give USD the nod over Davis every single day of the week & twice on Sunday. They earned it by beating the #1 team.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:20 pmInteresting take but makes sense. I would hope NDSU gets punished for losing the last game of the season and therefore has to travel to Brookings. Only right/fair.jgrilley406 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pmMSU
SDSU
NDSU
UCD
USD…think they give SDSU the two seed just to give the possible rematch game in Brookings this time.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling that MVFC bias will pu USD at #4 and UCD at #5. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Sam agrees with the USD love, and has NDSU behind SDSU. I don't get either of those opinions. Honestly, if this is what the committee does, then it should be made up of 13 hard-core FCS fans instead of ADs.
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They earned it because their ONE ranked win is over #1? So ridiculous.onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:03 pmI would give USD the nod over Davis every single day of the week & twice on Sunday. They earned it by beating the #1 team.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:20 pmInteresting take but makes sense. I would hope NDSU gets punished for losing the last game of the season and therefore has to travel to Brookings. Only right/fair.jgrilley406 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pmMSU
SDSU
NDSU
UCD
USD…think they give SDSU the two seed just to give the possible rematch game in Brookings this time.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling that MVFC bias will pu USD at #4 and UCD at #5. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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I don't think it's about punishing anyone, there's nothing bad about getting a Top 5 seed! To me Davis and USD are very close on paper. Davis has more D-1 wins and two good wins vs Idaho and at Montana, but USD has the most impressive win over NDSU and took SDSU to overtime on the road. If I'm on the committee the tiebreaker becomes "if I watch both these teams play right now who do I think is better?", and to me the answer is South Dakota. Maybe if I went back and watched South Dakota's game against UND last week I'd change my mind, but as I'm not on the committee I'll just save those three hours of my weekend and stick to speculation.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:57 pmI guess I don't understand. South Dakota barely beat 4-8 Youngstown, and got pushed hard by 5-7 North Dakota. Why should UC Davis be punished for their close wins over bad teams, but not USD? If it's not all about SOS and computer rankings, then UC Davis absolutely should be seeded above USD.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:48 pmThe eye test, I was not overly impressed by UC Davis in their last two games. IMO they aren't quite as good as the three MVFC teams even if their resume on paper says they are. Barely beating a 3-8 team by 3 points is not going to impress the selection committee, it's not all about computer ratings and SoS.
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I see what you're saying, but that sends the message that your overall body of work doesn't mean squat.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:04 pmI don't think it's about punishing anyone, there's nothing bad about getting a Top 5 seed! To me Davis and USD are very close on paper. Davis has more D-1 wins and two good wins vs Idaho and at Montana, but USD has the most impressive win over NDSU and took SDSU to overtime on the road. If I'm on the committee the tiebreaker becomes "if I watch both these teams play right now who do I think is better?", and to me the answer is South Dakota. Maybe if I went back and watched South Dakota's game against UND last week I'd change my mind, but as I'm not on the committee I'll just save those three hours of my weekend and stick to speculation.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:57 pmI guess I don't understand. South Dakota barely beat 4-8 Youngstown, and got pushed hard by 5-7 North Dakota. Why should UC Davis be punished for their close wins over bad teams, but not USD? If it's not all about SOS and computer rankings, then UC Davis absolutely should be seeded above USD.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:48 pmThe eye test, I was not overly impressed by UC Davis in their last two games. IMO they aren't quite as good as the three MVFC teams even if their resume on paper says they are. Barely beating a 3-8 team by 3 points is not going to impress the selection committee, it's not all about computer ratings and SoS.
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To be fair 4 and 5 will probably play each other and we will play the better team.
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I'm not sure I see how UC Davis' overall body of work is significantly better than South Dakota's. I don't think USD should be punished because they had a likely win over Portland State get cancelled through no fault of their own. But we'll see what the committee does. Craig Haley and Sam Herder both have South Dakota at 4 and Davis at 5 so I don't think I'm way out there with this prediction.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:08 pmI see what you're saying, but that sends the message that your overall body of work doesn't mean squat.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:04 pmI don't think it's about punishing anyone, there's nothing bad about getting a Top 5 seed! To me Davis and USD are very close on paper. Davis has more D-1 wins and two good wins vs Idaho and at Montana, but USD has the most impressive win over NDSU and took SDSU to overtime on the road. If I'm on the committee the tiebreaker becomes "if I watch both these teams play right now who do I think is better?", and to me the answer is South Dakota. Maybe if I went back and watched South Dakota's game against UND last week I'd change my mind, but as I'm not on the committee I'll just save those three hours of my weekend and stick to speculation.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:57 pmI guess I don't understand. South Dakota barely beat 4-8 Youngstown, and got pushed hard by 5-7 North Dakota. Why should UC Davis be punished for their close wins over bad teams, but not USD? If it's not all about SOS and computer rankings, then UC Davis absolutely should be seeded above USD.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:48 pmThe eye test, I was not overly impressed by UC Davis in their last two games. IMO they aren't quite as good as the three MVFC teams even if their resume on paper says they are. Barely beating a 3-8 team by 3 points is not going to impress the selection committee, it's not all about computer ratings and SoS.
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I don't think you are either, I just think it's wrong when the talk even from the mesia guys is always about reaume and SOS. Davis has 2 top 10 wins, one on the road. The rest of their wins are pretty damn comparable, and Davis (even if USD beat PSU) would still have 1 more DI win.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:19 pmI'm not sure I see how UC Davis' overall body of work is significantly better than South Dakota's. I don't think USD should be punished because they had a likely win over Portland State get cancelled through no fault of their own. But we'll see what the committee does. Craig Haley and Sam Herder both have South Dakota at 4 and Davis at 5 so I don't think I'm way out there with this prediction.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:08 pmI see what you're saying, but that sends the message that your overall body of work doesn't mean squat.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:04 pmI don't think it's about punishing anyone, there's nothing bad about getting a Top 5 seed! To me Davis and USD are very close on paper. Davis has more D-1 wins and two good wins vs Idaho and at Montana, but USD has the most impressive win over NDSU and took SDSU to overtime on the road. If I'm on the committee the tiebreaker becomes "if I watch both these teams play right now who do I think is better?", and to me the answer is South Dakota. Maybe if I went back and watched South Dakota's game against UND last week I'd change my mind, but as I'm not on the committee I'll just save those three hours of my weekend and stick to speculation.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:57 pmI guess I don't understand. South Dakota barely beat 4-8 Youngstown, and got pushed hard by 5-7 North Dakota. Why should UC Davis be punished for their close wins over bad teams, but not USD? If it's not all about SOS and computer rankings, then UC Davis absolutely should be seeded above USD.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:48 pmThe eye test, I was not overly impressed by UC Davis in their last two games. IMO they aren't quite as good as the three MVFC teams even if their resume on paper says they are. Barely beating a 3-8 team by 3 points is not going to impress the selection committee, it's not all about computer ratings and SoS.
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Except the 5 seed has to go on the road. It doesn't matter to us, but it matters to them.