What next

[catatac]

Going forward we should extend an invite for Ah Yat to come over the hill.

Uhhh, ok? Why do you say that?

I knew it would cause some commotion over here. He’s not playing and he’s really good. He probably is better than any of our current backups. I think Fife has another year? If they roll with him, maybe Ah Yat looks to transfer. In that case why not take a shot at him? And yes, I understand the griz dna in his blood….

If he's "Really Good", then I'm not sure why he's not starting, because while Fife I think is a pretty good QB IMO, he's not phenomenal or anything.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Yeah I hate the fact that we are posting “Likely Transfer Portal guys.” We have no idea what these kids are thinking about doing or what their situation is. What the hell are we doing?

Do you think the first time those players think about it is when they read Lord Vigo’s post labeling them as likely transfers?

do you really think any players read bobcat nation?

1) Yes. I know they do.

2) I just had a silly response to a silly comment. Don’t read too much into it.

[PortlandCat90]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

Likely Portal Players:

• J. Reed, QB
• S. Humphrey, RB
• C. Moore, OT
• B. Stillwell, S

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

My mom dates two FBS head coaches and both of them said that all 4 Cats named above are not nearly talented enough to transfer and should stay at MSU.

[coloradocat]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

Likely Portal Players:

• J. Reed, QB
• S. Humphrey, RB
• C. Moore, OT
• B. Stillwell, S

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

My mom dates two FBS head coaches and both of them said that all 4 Cats named above are not nearly talented enough to transfer and should stay at MSU.

This is the content I come to BN for on Fridays

[tetoncat]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

Likely Portal Players:

• J. Reed, QB
• S. Humphrey, RB
• C. Moore, OT
• B. Stillwell, S

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

Well now I am depressed

On offense we have had to replace 2 or 3 every year and will be the same. But we have had great production from those who will be back. Big ? Is center and QB. Defense LB and CB

[Lord Vigo]

Yeah I hate the fact that we are posting “Likely Transfer Portal guys.” We have no idea what these kids are thinking about doing or what their situation is. What the hell are we doing?

If it bothers people that much, I’ll just take that part off.

[TomCat88]

Yeah I hate the fact that we are posting “Likely Transfer Portal guys.” We have no idea what these kids are thinking about doing or what their situation is. What the hell are we doing?

If it bothers people that much, I’ll just take that part off.

You’d think, by now, it wouldn’t bother anyone. Not sure how many players MSU has had transfer over the past few years but imho MSU has been the best team in the BSC from 2019 to present.

[grizzh8r]

Going forward we should extend an invite for Ah Yat to come over the hill.

Uhhh, ok? Why do you say that?

I knew it would cause some commotion over here. He’s not playing and he’s really good. He probably is better than any of our current backups. I think Fife has another year? If they roll with him, maybe Ah Yat looks to transfer. In that case why not take a shot at him? And yes, I understand the griz dna in his blood….

If he's "Really Good", then I'm not sure why he's not starting, because while Fife I think is a pretty good QB IMO, he's not phenomenal or anything.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him play this season at all, but what I saw from him last season - and from what I've heard about him - is that he's just not very good, and he's a bit undersized, even for the FCS.

[blueandgoldblitz]

All I know about Ah Yat is what I've seen following ESPN Gamecast and looking at box scores, which is to say I'm not very informed, but my comp to him was a less athletic Chris Murray.

[BelligerentBobcat]

All I know about Ah Yat is what I've seen following ESPN Gamecast and looking at box scores, which is to say I'm not very informed, but my comp to him was a less athletic Chris Murray.

Ah Yat has a live arm, just needs reps. The Griz don’t like to develop QB’s though.

[tdub]

All I know about Ah Yat is what I've seen following ESPN Gamecast and looking at box scores, which is to say I'm not very informed, but my comp to him was a less athletic Chris Murray.

Ah Yat has a live arm, just needs reps. The Griz don’t like to develop QB’s though.

I agree with that. In my eyes he has some juice and can definitely play. His ball security was suspect, which is why he isn’t playing IMO. Lack of ball security will always get you in the doghouse over there (or anywhere for that matter).

[PapaG]

All I know about Ah Yat is what I've seen following ESPN Gamecast and looking at box scores, which is to say I'm not very informed, but my comp to him was a less athletic Chris Murray.

Ah Yat has a live arm, just needs reps. The Griz don’t like to develop QB’s though.

I agree with that. In my eyes he has some juice and can definitely play. His ball security was suspect, which is why he isn’t playing IMO. Lack of ball security will always get you in the doghouse over there (or anywhere for that matter).

I’ve been watching Fife play since he’s been full-time and he’s playing as well as anyone in the conference at QB. I realize Tommy hasn’t really been needed as much so far this season because the running game with the backs is the best in the country, with Tommy as a threat still and increasingly looking to run.

[onceacat]

Seems like Cat fans want to have conniptions about this every single year. Maybe its a universal thing with college football fans...

Couple of things jump out:

1) Cats have a 15+ year history (with a couple year interlude) of reloading with talent. MSU has a bunch of advantages relative to other FCS teams-great town, top notch academics, a history of deep playoff runs, a history of transfer & NFL opportunities, etc-so its pretty likely that MSU can continue to reload.

2) Football is a team sport. We hear cliches all the time like 'next man up' and 'no one is irreplaceable'. No one is irreplaceable...not even Lulay or McGhee or Prukop...You could do the same thing with standouts at every position group...think about the LBs that the Cats have replaced...Singleton, Owens, Andersen, etc. Next man up.

3) Every other team has to do the same thing. Its not as though graduation & the transfer portal only effect MSU. Think about the guys who left Idaho last year. At least MSU has a really good pitch (see line #1) when it comes time to hit the portal...certainly a lot better recruiting pitch than Idaho or Weber or Sac.

MSU is deep and loaded at nearly every position group...and we have a really great group of coaches that have a history of high level performance. At most positions, the Cats have dudes ready to step up. The Cats will also hit the portal to find other guys who fit in, whether at QB or CB or OL.

I 100% guarantee that Vigen & the rest of the coaches are ready to play next season with the guys currently on the roster. I also 100% guarantee that the Cats will look in the portal for every single position if theres a chance for an upgrade.

Its a bit odd to speculate otherwise at this point.

[Lord Vigo]

All I know about Ah Yat is what I've seen following ESPN Gamecast and looking at box scores, which is to say I'm not very informed, but my comp to him was a less athletic Chris Murray.

Ah Yat has a live arm, just needs reps. The Griz don’t like to develop QB’s though.

I agree with that. In my eyes he has some juice and can definitely play. His ball security was suspect, which is why he isn’t playing IMO. Lack of ball security will always get you in the doghouse over there (or anywhere for that matter).

I’ve been watching Fife play since he’s been full-time and he’s playing as well as anyone in the conference at QB. I realize Tommy hasn’t really been needed as much so far this season because the running game with the backs is the best in the country, with Tommy as a threat still and increasingly looking to run.

I don’t know if you meant this literally, but Fife has not been anywhere close to Tommy. He’s a good BSC quarterback. Tommy is probably the best in the FCS.

[autocat]

Agree, Tommy is better than both of the Dakotas QB’s

[stickerguy]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

I'm confused on how Davis can redshirt this year. His Bio on the website says he redshirted in 2019, 2020 covid year, played in '21, '22, and '23 for MSU.
Can somebody explain this to me? Gillogly also mentioned him redshirting this year in the broadcast (at least I think I heard him say that).

[wbtfg]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

I'm confused on how Davis can redshirt this year. His Bio on the website says he redshirted in 2019, 2020 covid year, played in '21, '22, and '23 for MSU.
Can somebody explain this to me? Gillogly also mentioned him redshirting this year in the broadcast (at least I think I heard him say that).

Had another year with a season ending injury. So with 2 seasons missed because of injury, will likely be granted a Med redshirt.

[4KornerKat]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

I'm confused on how Davis can redshirt this year. His Bio on the website says he redshirted in 2019, 2020 covid year, played in '21, '22, and '23 for MSU.
Can somebody explain this to me? Gillogly also mentioned him redshirting this year in the broadcast (at least I think I heard him say that).

In 2019 at Wisconsin, he redshirted to recover from an injury he had in high school. They have retroactively applied to the NCAA to classify that as a medical redshirt year, which would mean he still has his redshirt year to use this year (4 games plus playoffs), and then play again next year.

[coloradocat]

Graduating:

• T. Mellott, QB
• E. Elliott, RB
• R. Lonergran, TE
• T. McCullouch, WR
• M. Johnson, WR
• G. Walchli, WR
• M. Wehr, T/G
• J. Reed, G
• C. Sain, G/C
• J. Perkins, C
• B. Grebe, DE
• B. Schmidt, DT
• N. Korom, DL
• M. O'Reilly, LB
• C. Bullock, LB
• J. Johnson, CB
• S. Woodard, CB
• M. Jackson, NB
• R. Ortt, S
• B. Hall, P
• T. Sullivan, LS

Potential to RS:

• J. Davis, RB
• D. Uluilakepa, LB

It's going to be an off-season of major change. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be great in 2025. This current senior group was great immediately when they took the team lead as sophomores. It will be sad to see all these great players leave the program, but exciting to watch all the talent in the pipeline get onto the field.

I'm confused on how Davis can redshirt this year. His Bio on the website says he redshirted in 2019, 2020 covid year, played in '21, '22, and '23 for MSU.
Can somebody explain this to me? Gillogly also mentioned him redshirting this year in the broadcast (at least I think I heard him say that).

In 2019 at Wisconsin, he redshirted to recover from an injury he had in high school. They have retroactively applied to the NCAA to classify that as a medical redshirt year, which would mean he still has his redshirt year to use this year (4 games plus playoffs), and then play again next year.

If I was the NCAA I would deny the application. No retroactive reclassifications, especially once you're at a different school.

[SparkCat]

If I was the NCAA I would deny the application. No retroactive reclassifications, especially once you're at a different school.
[/quote]

I like the way the dude plays and will be glad to have him another year, however, what would be your reasoning on a denial? I actually have similar thoughts about how much student/athletes get leeway to continue playing/competing. I had 5 years with a redshirt and by the end of my fifth year I was ready to get the hell out. The student portion is separating further and further from the athlete.