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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by technoCat » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:51 pm

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Can someone list all the names of players that could be used to take over for Danny U?
The depth chart is in another thread. Grebe and Krahe with more time for Daily is what it looks like now.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by catatac » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:11 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:58 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:38 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:17 pm
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Dang!
Torn ACL University. Poilidore and Davis evidently had knee surgeries as well.
So those two, Dowler, Schmidt, and now Danny U... I know football is a rough sport, and injuries happen, but is there something different that should be addressed in their strength training and workouts? I know the strength coach does a fantastic job overall, it just seems like alot of guys with the same, or similar, injury.
I’m pretty positive every fanbase has this conversation every year.
Not every fan base roots for a team that lost 3 defensive starters to ACL injuries.
Can you name a couple other teams that have?
Ya, I was thinking about this after the terrible news about Danny U. My first thought was, man - we are getting hit HARD by the injury bug this year. Then I quickly remembered that we've lost I believe FOUR players to season ending injuries... and yes three of them were starters. Unfortunately they're all on the defensive side of the ball, and yes I think it's just a coincidence they all happen to be ACL tears. Could just as easily be broken bones or other injuries that require surgery.

I think the Griz have lost at least four players to season ending injuries this year and I'd be willing to bet if you go research the NDSU and SDSU rosters you'll find the same.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by 91catAlum » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 pm

catatac wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:11 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:58 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:38 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:17 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:42 am
Dang!
Torn ACL University. Poilidore and Davis evidently had knee surgeries as well.
So those two, Dowler, Schmidt, and now Danny U... I know football is a rough sport, and injuries happen, but is there something different that should be addressed in their strength training and workouts? I know the strength coach does a fantastic job overall, it just seems like alot of guys with the same, or similar, injury.
I’m pretty positive every fanbase has this conversation every year.
Not every fan base roots for a team that lost 3 defensive starters to ACL injuries.
Can you name a couple other teams that have?
Ya, I was thinking about this after the terrible news about Danny U. My first thought was, man - we are getting hit HARD by the injury bug this year. Then I quickly remembered that we've lost I believe FOUR players to season ending injuries... and yes three of them were starters. Unfortunately they're all on the defensive side of the ball, and yes I think it's just a coincidence they all happen to be ACL tears. Could just as easily be broken bones or other injuries that require surgery.

I think the Griz have lost at least four players to season ending injuries this year and I'd be willing to bet if you go research the NDSU and SDSU rosters you'll find the same.
Ya its possible I guess. Sure seems like a lot more than usual but I suppose you're probably right.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by technoCat » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:50 pm

catatac wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:11 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:58 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:38 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:17 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:42 am
Dang!
Torn ACL University. Poilidore and Davis evidently had knee surgeries as well.
So those two, Dowler, Schmidt, and now Danny U... I know football is a rough sport, and injuries happen, but is there something different that should be addressed in their strength training and workouts? I know the strength coach does a fantastic job overall, it just seems like alot of guys with the same, or similar, injury.
I’m pretty positive every fanbase has this conversation every year.
Not every fan base roots for a team that lost 3 defensive starters to ACL injuries.
Can you name a couple other teams that have?
Ya, I was thinking about this after the terrible news about Danny U. My first thought was, man - we are getting hit HARD by the injury bug this year. Then I quickly remembered that we've lost I believe FOUR players to season ending injuries... and yes three of them were starters. Unfortunately they're all on the defensive side of the ball, and yes I think it's just a coincidence they all happen to be ACL tears. Could just as easily be broken bones or other injuries that require surgery.

I think the Griz have lost at least four players to season ending injuries this year and I'd be willing to bet if you go research the NDSU and SDSU rosters you'll find the same.
Didn't we lose 1 or 2 backup lineman for the season? Are we getting Elliott back ever? Maybe not all have been season ending but we've had a lot of contributors missing big chunks of time.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by MSU01 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:24 pm

We all tend to think OUR team is getting the worst end of the injury luck, largely because most of us don't follow other teams closely enough to know exactly how many of their guys are also hurt. Another factor to consider is that almost all of the recent injuries have happened on the defensive side of the ball. I went back to the depth chart from the New Mexico game and every single guy on the offensive two deep is still healthy and available to play unless I've missed something. So, we can worry about all the injuries on defense but we can also be thankful that the offense has remained remarkably healthy so far. Overall, I doubt MSU is significantly worse off than most other teams and I'm sure they're better off than some like Idaho.



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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by Cats and Dogs » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:40 pm

Agree that injuries are a part of the game and happen to every team but 3 of 11 defensive starters out with season ending ACL tears in the knee seems more than coincidental. Could there be something with the strength and conditioning influencing these specific injuries? I think at the least, it's a fair question and I'm sure they are evaluating it. I don't know the overall statistics of college football injuries being knee related or percentage of , but it would be interesting. Mostly I just feel sick for these 3 kids having their seasons over.
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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by technoCat » Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:05 pm

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We all tend to think OUR team is getting the worst end of the injury luck, largely because most of us don't follow other teams closely enough to know exactly how many of their guys are also hurt. Another factor to consider is that almost all of the recent injuries have happened on the defensive side of the ball. I went back to the depth chart from the New Mexico game and every single guy on the offensive two deep is still healthy and available to play unless I've missed something. So, we can worry about all the injuries on defense but we can also be thankful that the offense has remained remarkably healthy so far. Overall, I doubt MSU is significantly worse off than most other teams and I'm sure they're better off than some like Idaho.
Well considering we were missing 2 guards and a center for that game, I hope so! :lol:


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by cats2506 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:40 am

technoCat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:41 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:47 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:35 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:38 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:17 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:42 am
Dang!
Torn ACL University. Poilidore and Davis evidently had knee surgeries as well.
So those two, Dowler, Schmidt, and now Danny U... I know football is a rough sport, and injuries happen, but is there something different that should be addressed in their strength training and workouts? I know the strength coach does a fantastic job overall, it just seems like alot of guys with the same, or similar, injury.
I’m pretty positive every fanbase has this conversation every year.
Not entirely convinced of that...watched a ton of BS/FCS football over the years and you don't see these season ending/serious injuries #'s, per say, at dUMb, the DSU's, etc. And consistently. Perkins, Davis, Polidore, Schmidt, Danny, Dowler all All Conf. type players. Not to mention the last couple years, too. JMO.
Go tell that to Idaho
Who is hurt for Idaho other than their QBs? And those aren't season-ending necessarily. I know there is some bias as far as feeling like we get more but right now we are missing a starter from all 3 levels of defense for the year with ACL tears. Isn't Stillwell a knee too? Look at our luck with RBs the last 3 years. Starts to make you wonder after a while if it's not a systematic issue.
I believe they are down 2 OL, one is season ending I think. They their leading RB out, will be back, Cummings that played against us has missed quite a bit of tome this year. Had a defensive player out for the season, I think he was a starting safety. If layne gets back it may only be for the last couple of games.

I'm not making excuses for them, teams need to have depth, and as to their QB issues if you want to play at this level you need more than 3 (1 so and 2 fr) scrawny QB's

They are now crying about the hit that took that one out, but it was an absolutely clean legal hit.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by Long Time Cat » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:35 am

The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by tetoncat » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:45 am

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Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:35 am
The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:
I don't necessarily agree that all the acl issues are S&C problems. But, trying to make your point by comparing a broken one to torn ligaments doesn't even make sense.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by nevadacat » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:20 am

technoCat wrote:
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It’s tough to lose Danny U. My memory is foggy — I can’t remember who the starters were — but there were times we lamented the loss of a key linebacker mid-season, wondering if their backup could step up. A couple of those backups are named Owens and Singleton. I think we’ll be Ok.
Didn't Daly play because of an injury as a freshman?
That rings a bell.

There are folks on here that have better memories and coukd give us a 20-year depth chart at any given position.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:19 am

Is this thread really turning into a conspiracy theory about injuries!?

For the love of god, do better people, you're smarting than this.



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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by wbtfg » Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:32 am

nevadacat wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:20 am
technoCat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:50 pm
nevadacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:45 pm
It’s tough to lose Danny U. My memory is foggy — I can’t remember who the starters were — but there were times we lamented the loss of a key linebacker mid-season, wondering if their backup could step up. A couple of those backups are named Owens and Singleton. I think we’ll be Ok.
Didn't Daly play because of an injury as a freshman?
That rings a bell.

There are folks on here that have better memories and coukd give us a 20-year depth chart at any given position.
Mac Mollihan I believe.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:34 am

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:24 pm
We all tend to think OUR team is getting the worst end of the injury luck, largely because most of us don't follow other teams closely enough to know exactly how many of their guys are also hurt. Another factor to consider is that almost all of the recent injuries have happened on the defensive side of the ball. I went back to the depth chart from the New Mexico game and every single guy on the offensive two deep is still healthy and available to play unless I've missed something. So, we can worry about all the injuries on defense but we can also be thankful that the offense has remained remarkably healthy so far. Overall, I doubt MSU is significantly worse off than most other teams and I'm sure they're better off than some like Idaho.
Well... other than missing our RB1 and starting Center, yes the offense has been healthy.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

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The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:
The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by Lord Vigo » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:38 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:22 am
Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:35 am
The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:
The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!
How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?



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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by VimSince03 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:40 am

Lord Vigo wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:38 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:22 am
Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:35 am
The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:
The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!
How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?
Straight from the cow after every workout.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by KIX » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:44 am

91catAlum wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:11 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:58 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:38 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:17 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:42 am
Dang!
Torn ACL University. Poilidore and Davis evidently had knee surgeries as well.
So those two, Dowler, Schmidt, and now Danny U... I know football is a rough sport, and injuries happen, but is there something different that should be addressed in their strength training and workouts? I know the strength coach does a fantastic job overall, it just seems like alot of guys with the same, or similar, injury.
I’m pretty positive every fanbase has this conversation every year.
Not every fan base roots for a team that lost 3 defensive starters to ACL injuries.
Can you name a couple other teams that have?
Ya, I was thinking about this after the terrible news about Danny U. My first thought was, man - we are getting hit HARD by the injury bug this year. Then I quickly remembered that we've lost I believe FOUR players to season ending injuries... and yes three of them were starters. Unfortunately they're all on the defensive side of the ball, and yes I think it's just a coincidence they all happen to be ACL tears. Could just as easily be broken bones or other injuries that require surgery.

I think the Griz have lost at least four players to season ending injuries this year and I'd be willing to bet if you go research the NDSU and SDSU rosters you'll find the same.
Ya its possible I guess. Sure seems like a lot more than usual but I suppose you're probably right.
Yes, it is a lot more than usual and, in retrospect, the last few years as well.



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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by cats2506 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:54 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:40 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:38 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:22 am
Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:35 am
The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:
The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!
How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?
Straight from the cow after every workout.
I grew up drinking raw milk straight from the cow. Out of us 5 kids we only had 3 broken bones, finger (football), arm (3 wheeler) and wrist (4 wheeler) I'm the youngest and am in my 60's now.


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Re: Injuries (post Idaho game)

Post by Montanabob » Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:57 am

cats2506 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:54 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:40 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:38 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:22 am
Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:35 am
The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately! :roll:
The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!
How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?
Straight from the cow after every workout.
I grew up drinking raw milk straight from the cow. Out of us 5 kids we only had 3 broken bones, finger (football), arm (3 wheeler) and wrist (4 wheeler) I'm the youngest and am in my 60's now.
growing up a normal healthy kid in montana doesn't compare to D1 football played on plastic covered concrete and 4 or 5 275+ tacklers.


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