Looking forward........

[Common Cat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

Metrics don't mean much until mid season. They sell readers on them but not much to base it off,just like polls.

Sure, I get that. WCU still < UM. Not sure why this is even being argued.

[CodyCat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

[CodyCat]

I can’t believe nobody has posted, one game at a times guys. We can’t look ahead.

[4KornerKat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

Did you forget the Griz/Furman game last year? Furman beat WCU but was a contested game. I think it's crazy talk to think the gris are more than 10 points better without their stadium.

[aucat]

I'm beginning to think we need to lean more towards creative play calling on 4th and 4 or less given that our place kicking is so unreliable.
We are going to lose some close games if we can't rely on making FGs from 40 yards in. So heck, just go for it.

[coloradocat]

I can’t believe nobody has posted, one game at a times guys. We can’t look ahead.

It's ok. We're looking forward, not ahead.

[The MICKSTER]

I can’t believe nobody has posted, one game at a times guys. We can’t look ahead.

It's ok. We're looking forward, not ahead.

......like the ‘Topic’ title suggests....

[blueandgoldblitz]

Does Adam Jones have to play QB next year or can we just move him straight to linebacker?

[Common Cat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

[tetoncat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

Going to the championship does not automatically make the next year an elite team. They lost a ton of defensive studs. They do have experience and seniors back but will they be at level of last year. They were not an elite offense last year and lost the key piece at qb that turned their season around. That was my earlier post about metrics. With the portal I don't think we know top teams for 4 or 5 weeks. If we are just basing it off last year and tradition why do it.

[Common Cat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

Going to the championship does not automatically make the next year an elite team. They lost a ton of defensive studs. They do have experience and seniors back but will they be at level of last year. They were not an elite offense last year and lost the key piece at qb that turned their season around. That was my earlier post about metrics. With the portal I don't think we know top teams for 4 or 5 weeks. If we are just basing it off last year and tradition why do it.

I hope you’re right. The Griz are elite until proven not. Same with us. If you’re a top 5 team - in my opinion you’re an elite program.

[catatac]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

Honestly I do think they're close based on the one game I've seen each of them play this season. I think MO State looked to play them fairly even, even in WAGriz, and WCU appears to be every bit as good or better than MO State. Who knows, I could be wrong and the Griz might dominate them, we'll find out soon enough. Do you think the Griz will dominate UND, since they're elite and UND is not?

[allcat]

Does Adam Jones have to play QB next year or can we just move him straight to linebacker?

What about his kicking abilities?

[MSU01]

Beware overreacting to anything when having only one game of data available to look at. Western Carolina isn't all of a sudden a playoff team because they hung with NC State for a while any more than UM is doomed to mediocrity this season because they only won by 5 at home over a weaker opponent. There will always be closer than expected wins and a few losses with ups and downs along the way, but I think the Top 4 teams now will still be the Top 4 teams in December in some order.

[CodyCat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

Let me pull off my blue and gold glasses. I just don’t think one run to Frisco makes you elite. The last time they played in a semifinal game was when? 2009? So, a loonnngggg time ago. Hauck 2.0 hasn’t been very good at all until last season. Maybe they’ve #rtd. But the fact is, until last season, they hadn’t play in a semifinal game since the championship was in Chattanooga.

[91catAlum]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

Let me pull off my blue and gold glasses. I just don’t think one run to Frisco makes you elite. The last time they played in a semifinal game was when? 2009? So, a loonnngggg time ago. Hauck 2.0 hasn’t been very good at all until last season. Maybe they’ve #rtd. But the fact is, until last season, they hadn’t play in a semifinal game since the championship was in Chattanooga.

Agreed. The 2024 griz might be great, they might not be. The fact they were good last year means very little. Having 1 great season in 15 also means very little. They are always a solid team but rarely have they been "elite" in recent times.

[BelligerentBobcat]

If the Griz aren’t elite, we aren’t either. Pretty equal programs at the moment.

[coloradocat]

Beware overreacting to anything when having only one game of data available to look at. Western Carolina isn't all of a sudden a playoff team because they hung with NC State for a while any more than UM is doomed to mediocrity this season because they only won by 5 at home over a weaker opponent. There will always be closer than expected wins and a few losses with ups and downs along the way, but I think the Top 4 teams now will still be the Top 4 teams in December in some order.

Nope, I choose to believe both of those things.

[coloradocat]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

Let me pull off my blue and gold glasses. I just don’t think one run to Frisco makes you elite. The last time they played in a semifinal game was when? 2009? So, a loonnngggg time ago. Hauck 2.0 hasn’t been very good at all until last season. Maybe they’ve #rtd. But the fact is, until last season, they hadn’t play in a semifinal game since the championship was in Chattanooga.

Agreed. The 2024 griz might be great, they might not be. The fact they were good last year means very little. Having 1 great season in 15 also means very little. They are always a solid team but rarely have they been "elite" in recent times.

There was one key difference, well maybe two, between their Saturday game and their playoff run last year. When those two guys are back it won't take long to determine if the griz are good or great in 2024.

[TomCat88]

Nice summary. You said a lot that I was thinking.

I think it was 1st down and 1 yard for goal when Tommy got hurt. We sure could have got it in having four chances using other personnel.

I was listening to the friz game as well and they almost lost to Mo State. They were well-matched teams. And Mo State got called for 5 false starts because of the home town noise which affected their ability to score, one was on their final drive. Glad to see this vulnerability in the friz. I think they will go down vs. Western Carolina!

First I think they lose to UND, not sure about Western Carolina. I'm thinking they are about even with them but the ten or so points that stadium give them will probably be the difference. I think going to UND to face a jacked up crowd and a good, tough team, with a good defense, is a bigger challenge at this point. Those Griz QBs will make some mistakes and it will probably cost them the game.

Are you stating that you think Western Carolina is as good as the griz?

I'd argue that point. I think that stadium is good for 7-10 points, if they were playing at WCU I think it might be a tossup. Look how well WCU played NC State for 3 quarters
UND who knows. They can beat anyone or lose to anyone depending on the week

Agreed to say washington/griz stadium is good for 7-10 pts, maybe even 14. But to say WCU is as good as the griz is just crazy talk. Go ahead and look at the massey ratings, or any metric. Hanging with NC State for one game does not qualify them for elite FCS status.

What qualifies the gris as elite?

Maybe the fact they went to the National Championship last year as well as about 30 years of tradition? Take off the blue colored glasses for a sec. Look, I hate the griz as much as anyone here, but you’re being obtuse.

Let me pull off my blue and gold glasses. I just don’t think one run to Frisco makes you elite. The last time they played in a semifinal game was when? 2009? So, a loonnngggg time ago. Hauck 2.0 hasn’t been very good at all until last season. Maybe they’ve #rtd. But the fact is, until last season, they hadn’t play in a semifinal game since the championship was in Chattanooga.

Agreed. The 2024 griz might be great, they might not be. The fact they were good last year means very little. Having 1 great season in 15 also means very little. They are always a solid team but rarely have they been "elite" in recent times.

There was one key difference, well maybe two, between their Saturday game and their playoff run last year. When those two guys are back it won't take long to determine if the griz are good or great in 2024.

The Griz were in a group of about five-six teams that had any one of them been the #2 seed they would’ve been in the championship game, and lost. UM, all things being constant, would’ve lost to Furman and NDSU on the road.

They had a run of 4-5 games that they played well in, then they didn’t look particularly good over the last three. The looked mediocre before the Idaho game.

Neither team, Missouri St or UM, played well but I thought Missouri played worse with all the penalties. They probably win if they cut those in half.