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Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am

I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by lutecat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:14 am

Go ahead and give it a shot. Start us out.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by catsrback76 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:06 am

I’ll kick it off.

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Re: Starting 22

Post by CodyCat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am

Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?


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Re: Starting 22

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Re: Starting 22

Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am

CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by MSU01 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:41 am

Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
I think we need to add Bryce Grebe into the rotation at linebacker. Plenty of talent there. There will never be another Troy, so if that's who we're hoping for it's going to be a very very long wait. I'm very confident that MSU has the players on its roster to have a very good defense, the two question marks are coaching with a first-year DC as well as injuries which can always play a major role for any team.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by CodyCat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am

Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
If you or anyone is going to compare any MSU defenses to that of 2021, you will probably be let down. That was an elite defense that I may never see again in my lifetime.


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Re: Starting 22

Post by Bozcat003 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:43 am

Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
I'll take a stab at it!

QB:
Tommy
Jordan Reed

RB:
Julius Davis
Humphrey / White

H-Back:
Rohan Jones

X:
Junior Alexander
Javonte King

Slot:
Taco Dowler
Jacob Trimble
?Jabez Woods?

Z:
Ty McCulloch
Aidan Garrigan

TE:
Ryan Lonergan
Hunter Provience

LT:
Connor Moore
Cedric Jefferson

LG:
JT Reed
Burke Mastel

C:
Justus Perkins
Zac Nyland

RG:
Cole Sain
Samora Ezekiel

RT:
Marcus Wehr
Titan Fleschmann
?Dylan Rollins?
----------------------------------
DE:
Brody Grebe
Hunter Parsons

DT:
Paul Brott / Zack Black
Alec Eckert

NT:
Blake Schmidt
Paul Brott / Zack Black

DE:
Kenneth Eiden
Zac Crews

LB:
McCade O'Reilly
Neil Daily

LB:
Danny U
Bryce Grebe / Cole Bullock / Ryan Bowles

N:
Caden Dowler
Miles Jackson

CB:
Jon Johnson
Takhari Carr / Kory Boyd / Jhase McMillian / Carson Williams

CB:
Simeon Woodard
Andrew Powdrell

FS:
Dru Polidore
Blake Stillwelll

SS:
Rylan Ortt
Tyson Pottenger

------------------
K:
Casey Kautzman / Brendan Hall

P:
Brendan Hall


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Deep and experienced team - it should be a fun season.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am

Ok this is my attempt… after posting I also realized 22 could change with formations but whatever

Qb- Tommy
Rb- Davis (if healthy), Humphrey, White
Wr- McCullouch, Taco, Alexander Jr
Ol- Moore, Wehr, Perkins, Sain, Reed (Rollins?)
Te- Jones, Lonergan

De- Grebe, Eiden
Dt- Brott, Schmidt
Dl- Eckert, Marsh?
Lb- Danny U, McCade, Bullock

This is my start



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Re: Starting 22

Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:50 am

MSU01 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:41 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
I think we need to add Bryce Grebe into the rotation at linebacker. Plenty of talent there. There will never be another Troy, so if that's who we're hoping for it's going to be a very very long wait. I'm very confident that MSU has the players on its roster to have a very good defense, the two question marks are coaching with a first-year DC as well as injuries which can always play a major role for any team.
Yes agreed. I have bright hopes for DC but we will see…



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Re: Starting 22

Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am

Max Murphy is an interesting player I stumbled upon.
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Re: Starting 22

Post by BleedingBLue » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:30 am

Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
Ok this is my attempt… after posting I also realized 22 could change with formations but whatever

Qb- Tommy
Rb- Davis (if healthy), Humphrey, White
Wr- McCullouch, Taco, Alexander Jr
Ol- Moore, Wehr, Perkins, Sain, Reed (Rollins?)
Te- Jones, Lonergan

De- Grebe, Eiden
Dt- Brott, Schmidt
Dl- Eckert, Marsh?
Lb- Danny U, McCade, Bullock

This is my start
Brott over Schmidt at DT is bold. Not sure that'll happen. I think we will see a pretty healthy rotation at the DT spots with Schmidt, Eckert, Brott and Black.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:48 am

CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
If you or anyone is going to compare any MSU defenses to that of 2021, you will probably be let down. That was an elite defense that I may never see again in my lifetime.
It'll be interesting to see what the scheme is this year. My guess is Daly will change some things, but I honestly don't have a clue if that's the case. It just seems like MSU could've done better on defense than it has over the past three years. That includes '21 with Troy, Hardy, etc. Some teams throughout football (NFL, FBS, FCS, etc.) seem to be getting the most out their defensive players/scheme, while MSU does not.


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Re: Starting 22

Post by catatac » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:10 am

Bozcat003 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:43 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
I'll take a stab at it!

QB:
Tommy
Jordan Reed

RB:
Julius Davis
Humphrey / White

H-Back:
Rohan Jones

X:
Junior Alexander
Javonte King

Slot:
Taco Dowler
Jacob Trimble
?Jabez Woods?

Z:
Ty McCulloch
Aidan Garrigan

TE:
Ryan Lonergan
Hunter Provience

LT:
Connor Moore
Cedric Jefferson

LG:
JT Reed
Burke Mastel

C:
Justus Perkins
Zac Nyland

RG:
Cole Sain
Samora Ezekiel

RT:
Marcus Wehr
Titan Fleschmann
?Dylan Rollins?
----------------------------------
DE:
Brody Grebe
Hunter Parsons

DT:
Paul Brott / Zack Black
Alec Eckert

NT:
Blake Schmidt
Paul Brott / Zack Black

DE:
Kenneth Eiden
Zac Crews

LB:
McCade O'Reilly
Neil Daily

LB:
Danny U
Bryce Grebe / Cole Bullock / Ryan Bowles

N:
Caden Dowler
Miles Jackson

CB:
Jon Johnson
Takhari Carr / Kory Boyd / Jhase McMillian / Carson Williams

CB:
Simeon Woodard
Andrew Powdrell

FS:
Dru Polidore
Blake Stillwelll

SS:
Rylan Ortt
Tyson Pottenger

------------------
K:
Casey Kautzman / Brendan Hall

P:
Brendan Hall


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Deep and experienced team - it should be a fun season.
I agree. That starting lineup is seriously talented... and the backups aren't too shabby either. I'd be willing to bet the CATS will be favored in every regular season game. I see we're already favored to win the season opener in Albuquerque.


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Re: Starting 22

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:12 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:48 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
If you or anyone is going to compare any MSU defenses to that of 2021, you will probably be let down. That was an elite defense that I may never see again in my lifetime.
It'll be interesting to see what the scheme is this year. My guess is Daly will change some things, but I honestly don't have a clue if that's the case. It just seems like MSU could've done better on defense than it has over the past three years. That includes '21 with Troy, Hardy, etc. Some teams throughout football (NFL, FBS, FCS, etc.) seem to be getting the most out their defensive players/scheme, while MSU does not.
The 2019 defense was better than the 2021 defense and the best defense of any Big Sky school we've ever covered. There was a 5-game stretch to close the season where that defense gave up three non-garbage time touchdowns and opponents averaged 9 non-garbage time first downs a game....When the Griz scored 14 in the 48-14 ass-whooping in Bozeman, that was actually the best offensive performance of the stretch run of the regular season by a Bobcat opponent :lol:

Bryce Sterk, Amandre Williams, Chase Benson, Jason Scrempos, Marcus Ferriter up front...Josh Hill, Nolan Askelson, sometimes Troy, an emerging Daniel Hardy, Callahan O'Reilly at LB....Brayden Konkol, Jaqhue Alleyne and JoJo Henderson the best safety trio since the Kane Ioane days....Munchie Filer, Tyrel Thomas, Jalen Cole, Gibson twins at corner...

Montana State has a few elite players on defense currently - namely Brody Grebe and Simeon Woodard — but who else from this Bobcat defense would start on the 2019 defense?



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Re: Starting 22

Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:24 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:30 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
Ok this is my attempt… after posting I also realized 22 could change with formations but whatever

Qb- Tommy
Rb- Davis (if healthy), Humphrey, White
Wr- McCullouch, Taco, Alexander Jr
Ol- Moore, Wehr, Perkins, Sain, Reed (Rollins?)
Te- Jones, Lonergan

De- Grebe, Eiden
Dt- Brott, Schmidt
Dl- Eckert, Marsh?
Lb- Danny U, McCade, Bullock

This is my start
Brott over Schmidt at DT is bold. Not sure that'll happen. I think we will see a pretty healthy rotation at the DT spots with Schmidt, Eckert, Brott and Black.
Yes I didn’t mean to put Brott over Schmidt, I hope to see the D-line rotate lots!



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Re: Starting 22

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:26 am

Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:24 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:30 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
Ok this is my attempt… after posting I also realized 22 could change with formations but whatever

Qb- Tommy
Rb- Davis (if healthy), Humphrey, White
Wr- McCullouch, Taco, Alexander Jr
Ol- Moore, Wehr, Perkins, Sain, Reed (Rollins?)
Te- Jones, Lonergan

De- Grebe, Eiden
Dt- Brott, Schmidt
Dl- Eckert, Marsh?
Lb- Danny U, McCade, Bullock

This is my start
Brott over Schmidt at DT is bold. Not sure that'll happen. I think we will see a pretty healthy rotation at the DT spots with Schmidt, Eckert, Brott and Black.
Yes I didn’t mean to put Brott over Schmidt, I hope to see the D-line rotate lots!
In my opinion, Schmidt has a chance to be Montana State's second-best defensive player behind Grebe and arguably its most important. He has prodigious strength (he's threatening Chase Benon's power clean record) and has been quietly solid the last few years.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by Monymony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:29 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:12 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:48 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
If you or anyone is going to compare any MSU defenses to that of 2021, you will probably be let down. That was an elite defense that I may never see again in my lifetime.
It'll be interesting to see what the scheme is this year. My guess is Daly will change some things, but I honestly don't have a clue if that's the case. It just seems like MSU could've done better on defense than it has over the past three years. That includes '21 with Troy, Hardy, etc. Some teams throughout football (NFL, FBS, FCS, etc.) seem to be getting the most out their defensive players/scheme, while MSU does not.
The 2019 defense was better than the 2021 defense and the best defense of any Big Sky school we've ever covered. There was a 5-game stretch to close the season where that defense gave up three non-garbage time touchdowns and opponents averaged 9 non-garbage time first downs a game....When the Griz scored 14 in the 48-14 ass-whooping in Bozeman, that was actually the best offensive performance of the stretch run of the regular season by a Bobcat opponent :lol:

Bryce Sterk, Amandre Williams, Chase Benson, Jason Scrempos, Marcus Ferriter up front...Josh Hill, Nolan Askelson, sometimes Troy, an emerging Daniel Hardy, Callahan O'Reilly at LB....Brayden Konkol, Jaqhue Alleyne and JoJo Henderson the best safety trio since the Kane Ioane days....Munchie Filer, Tyrel Thomas, Jalen Cole, Gibson twins at corner...

Montana State has a few elite players on defense currently - namely Brody Grebe and Simeon Woodard — but who else from this Bobcat defense would start on the 2019 defense?
Is it safe to say the 19 defense and 21 (under Vigen) had “Choate aggression”? Seems like the defense now of days isn’t as nasty as I remember the Choate defense being very tough, physical, and angry. Would love to see more pressure and aggression.



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Re: Starting 22

Post by CodyCat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:36 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:12 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:48 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:34 am
CodyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:08 am
Monymony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:23 am
I was wondering if we could compile the starting 22 and maybe include some of the twos. I think this team has phenomenal experience and with the right coaching, should have the ability to be remembered. Solid wrs, incredible rbs, experienced qb, strong ol, but I must say defense has some question marks for me.
What are your question marks for the defense?
I think the d-line should be solid but linebackers are fairly weak. Danny U, McCade, and Bullock are probably the top 3 but I’m not sure about behind them, I think I just miss Troy. I think the Bobcats defense needs to be very good if we want to win a National Championship.
If you or anyone is going to compare any MSU defenses to that of 2021, you will probably be let down. That was an elite defense that I may never see again in my lifetime.
It'll be interesting to see what the scheme is this year. My guess is Daly will change some things, but I honestly don't have a clue if that's the case. It just seems like MSU could've done better on defense than it has over the past three years. That includes '21 with Troy, Hardy, etc. Some teams throughout football (NFL, FBS, FCS, etc.) seem to be getting the most out their defensive players/scheme, while MSU does not.
The 2019 defense was better than the 2021 defense and the best defense of any Big Sky school we've ever covered. There was a 5-game stretch to close the season where that defense gave up three non-garbage time touchdowns and opponents averaged 9 non-garbage time first downs a game....When the Griz scored 14 in the 48-14 ass-whooping in Bozeman, that was actually the best offensive performance of the stretch run of the regular season by a Bobcat opponent :lol:

Bryce Sterk, Amandre Williams, Chase Benson, Jason Scrempos, Marcus Ferriter up front...Josh Hill, Nolan Askelson, sometimes Troy, an emerging Daniel Hardy, Callahan O'Reilly at LB....Brayden Konkol, Jaqhue Alleyne and JoJo Henderson the best safety trio since the Kane Ioane days....Munchie Filer, Tyrel Thomas, Jalen Cole, Gibson twins at corner...

Montana State has a few elite players on defense currently - namely Brody Grebe and Simeon Woodard — but who else from this Bobcat defense would start on the 2019 defense?
I think Rylan Ortt is elite. But, I dont know if he starts on the 2019 team.


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