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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by 406Fanatic » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:58 pm

This is not the year. Learn, adapt, and get better for the future.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by aucat » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:47 am

Not the year in ANYTHING regarding Cat-Griz with the exception of volleyball where we prevailed two out of three at least



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by hokeyfine » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:25 am

John K wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:53 pm
4th straight loss. The February swoon is alive and well in Bobcat land.
I think the swoon has been there all season.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by SparkCat » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:34 am

aucat wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:47 am
Not the year in ANYTHING regarding Cat-Griz with the exception of volleyball where we prevailed two out of three at least
Not that it’s a moneymaker but we will always whoop them in Track and Field and Cross Country.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by BelgradeBobcat » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:54 am

It's that time of year where teams either love to keep playing or just want the season to be over. I think we know where our team is. Logie is out of magic tricks. He and his staff just need to get us some better players and/or figure out how to make the players we have better-which will take a lot of work this coming off-season.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by MinnesotaBobcat » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:21 pm

This team just looks worn out. The lack of depth has really taken a toll. Maybe it’s time to see what some of the younger guys have over the last couple weeks and rest up for the tournament. This years tourney looks wide open , so why not see if any of the young guys can add something to the mix.

Also, maybe finishing 7th wouldn’t be such a bad thing. Winnable first round game, and a likely second round game against a Northern Colorado team they seem to match up well with, as they should have beaten them twice already. Win that and you get a bye and are in the semifinals.

The Cats have already been more competitive than I thought they would this year, so really any sort of run at the tournament will be gravy. I’m more curious to see what happens after Logie gets a full offseason to build a team. Funny thing about that, is last year we were cursing the portal, now it’s going to be our best friend!



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by lv2hoop » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:08 pm

One thing that everyone says these days, is that you have to have an old roster to win in CBB. Certainly there will be some roster movement from this year to next, but if you look at our current players that could return (I think Rob Ford and John Olmstead are the only players we have that are going to be out of eligibility) we have the potential to have an old roster.

The year listed is how many years they will have been out of high school next year:

Eddie Turner III - Year 6 (still behind Aanen Moody who is in his 7th year this season)
Patterson - Year 5
Goracke - Year 5
Chika Nduka - Year 5
Aiden Gair - Year 5
Carter Ash - Year 5
Lecholat - Year 4
McMahon - Year 4
B-Walk - Year 4
Jaden Geron - Year 4
Jed Miller - Year 3
Jaquari Miles - Year 2
Royce Robinson - Year 2
Calum Rutherford - Year 2
Trap Johnson - Year 1
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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by RickRund » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm

Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm
I would really love to know how Aanen Moody fleeced the NCAA eligibility system. He graduated high school the same year I did (2017) and May will mark 3 years since I graduated with a bachelors. You do the math, dude has been in school a MINUTE
We moved to Idaho and bought our home the year he graduated. What has that guy been doing for SEVEN years? Injured, covid, ineligibilities?


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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by Potomac Griz » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:06 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm
I would really love to know how Aanen Moody fleeced the NCAA eligibility system. He graduated high school the same year I did (2017) and May will mark 3 years since I graduated with a bachelors. You do the math, dude has been in school a MINUTE
We moved to Idaho and bought our home the year he graduated. What has that guy been doing for SEVEN years? Injured, covid, ineligibilities?
From Sports Reference

2017-2018 North Dakota: Redshirt 0 games played.
2018-2019 North Dakota: 20 games
2019-2020 North Dakota: Injury. Played only 9 games.
2020-2021 Southern Utah: 30 games
2021-2022 Southern Utah: 35 games
2022-2023 Montana: 27 games
2023-2024 Montana: 26 games so far

He got an extra year of eligibility likely due to only playing 9 games in 2018-2019. Add in the covid year everyone who played when that started gets and there you have it. Patterson, if he returns to the Bobcats next year, will have played 5 full years like Moody has.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by mslacatfan » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:36 pm

It’s pretty obvious that outside of Ford…. This team just is not very talented.

Pretty drastic drop off from the past couple years.

I am still excited to see what Logie can do the next couple years though! I bet even next year we see a big step in the right direction.


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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by lutecat » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:55 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm
I would really love to know how Aanen Moody fleeced the NCAA eligibility system. He graduated high school the same year I did (2017) and May will mark 3 years since I graduated with a bachelors. You do the math, dude has been in school a MINUTE
We moved to Idaho and bought our home the year he graduated. What has that guy been doing for SEVEN years? Injured, covid, ineligibilities?
I mean isn't Moody's kid going to graduate here soon? Lol
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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by RickRund » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:03 pm

Potomac Griz wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:06 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm
I would really love to know how Aanen Moody fleeced the NCAA eligibility system. He graduated high school the same year I did (2017) and May will mark 3 years since I graduated with a bachelors. You do the math, dude has been in school a MINUTE
We moved to Idaho and bought our home the year he graduated. What has that guy been doing for SEVEN years? Injured, covid, ineligibilities?
From Sports Reference

2017-2018 North Dakota: Redshirt 0 games played.
2018-2019 North Dakota: 20 games
2019-2020 North Dakota: Injury. Played only 9 games.
2020-2021 Southern Utah: 30 games
2021-2022 Southern Utah: 35 games
2022-2023 Montana: 27 games
2023-2024 Montana: 26 games so far

He got an extra year of eligibility likely due to only playing 9 games in 2018-2019. Add in the covid year everyone who played when that started gets and there you have it. Patterson, if he returns to the Bobcats next year, will have played 5 full years like Moody has.
So what is the limit on games played before one loses their redshirt?


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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by lv2hoop » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:30 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:03 pm
Potomac Griz wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:06 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm
I would really love to know how Aanen Moody fleeced the NCAA eligibility system. He graduated high school the same year I did (2017) and May will mark 3 years since I graduated with a bachelors. You do the math, dude has been in school a MINUTE
We moved to Idaho and bought our home the year he graduated. What has that guy been doing for SEVEN years? Injured, covid, ineligibilities?
From Sports Reference

2017-2018 North Dakota: Redshirt 0 games played.
2018-2019 North Dakota: 20 games
2019-2020 North Dakota: Injury. Played only 9 games.
2020-2021 Southern Utah: 30 games
2021-2022 Southern Utah: 35 games
2022-2023 Montana: 27 games
2023-2024 Montana: 26 games so far

He got an extra year of eligibility likely due to only playing 9 games in 2018-2019. Add in the covid year everyone who played when that started gets and there you have it. Patterson, if he returns to the Bobcats next year, will have played 5 full years like Moody has.
So what is the limit on games played before one loses their redshirt?
From quick Google, so for what it's worth:

1. Injury has to be season ending
2. Athlete must not have participated in more than 30% of team's contests
3. Injury must occur before the midpoint of the season.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by RickRund » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:38 pm

lv2hoop wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:30 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:03 pm
Potomac Griz wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:06 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:43 pm
I would really love to know how Aanen Moody fleeced the NCAA eligibility system. He graduated high school the same year I did (2017) and May will mark 3 years since I graduated with a bachelors. You do the math, dude has been in school a MINUTE
We moved to Idaho and bought our home the year he graduated. What has that guy been doing for SEVEN years? Injured, covid, ineligibilities?
From Sports Reference

2017-2018 North Dakota: Redshirt 0 games played.
2018-2019 North Dakota: 20 games
2019-2020 North Dakota: Injury. Played only 9 games.
2020-2021 Southern Utah: 30 games
2021-2022 Southern Utah: 35 games
2022-2023 Montana: 27 games
2023-2024 Montana: 26 games so far

He got an extra year of eligibility likely due to only playing 9 games in 2018-2019. Add in the covid year everyone who played when that started gets and there you have it. Patterson, if he returns to the Bobcats next year, will have played 5 full years like Moody has.
So what is the limit on games played before one loses their redshirt?
From quick Google, so for what it's worth:

1. Injury has to be season ending
2. Athlete must not have participated in more than 30% of team's contests
3. Injury must occur before the midpoint of the season.
Thank you


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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:03 am

mslacatfan wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:36 pm
It’s pretty obvious that outside of Ford…. This team just is not very talented.

Pretty drastic drop off from the past couple years.

I am still excited to see what Logie can do the next couple years though! I bet even next year we see a big step in the right direction.
I think we all knew how this year would go, I think we all got a little excited when they were playing scrappy but seems like they lost that. If they want to win games they have to make it ugly, they're not going to finesse wins.



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Re: Men vs Missoula

Post by bshsmsu » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:22 pm

Obviously not a lot of good things to say about this game - but one of the things that bothers me was the last minute of the game in garbage time. The gris were up 20 in a forgettable game, and both teams emptied the bench. The gris put in their local kid, a few weeks removed from a DUI. However, the Bobcats elected to keep a starter in, rather than putting in their one Montana kid, who does not have a DUI, but does have a history of helping out the team GPA and sticking with the team for four years while earning a degree in pre-med. This game means a lot to a handful of players that have been around for a few years, but probably none more than the kid who grew up in Bozeman. Just seems strange that he was the one player who didn't get in the game when the outcome was determined, and nothing mattered.



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