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Cataholic
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by Cataholic » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:22 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 am
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:08 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:58 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm
The Bobcats don’t have a single high school QB left on the board with an offer, that we know of. I wonder if the Cats may be looking for a transfer in the next few months instead.
Do we really want another QB recruit? I think we have two, or maybe three redshirting or freshman right now.
You could say the same thing for just about every position. I doubt the Cats would sign more than one QB though.
We currently have Tommy returning, Jordan Reed who will be a sophomore and looks solid and then 3 other freshman or redshirt freshman. I don’t see recruiting a QB as a necessity, and definitely not a priority.
Tommy will be a senior, Reed will be a sophomore, Wilson will be a freshman. Abshire and Duchien probably never play meaningful snaps at QB here, and with the transfer portal it’s real easy for a QB to leave if they’re not playing or there’s a coaching change.
It’s the most important position on the field. General rule of thumb is to get at least one QB every recruiting class.
I knew you would comment.

I haven’t heard or seen enough on Abshire or Duchien to make a determination. Pretty sure a lot of guys said that Tommy would never take a snap at QB when he was an incoming freshman. Were you one of them? Of course if guys don’t work out QB, it changes the equation. And any position makes exceptions for a 3 star recruit.
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by AFCAT » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:21 am
We are less than a month from the first signing period and with only seven current commits, this is obviously going to be a small initial signing class. I know Vigen said that he is only looking at signing around 18 players this year and with a significantly lower number of offers than in the past, I can see that playing out. I wonder if this is a year where they look more at the portal for players. I definitely see a need for an experienced linebacker or two. Time will tell, but it’s interesting to see how this year shakes out.
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by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:24 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:22 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 am
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:08 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:58 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm
The Bobcats don’t have a single high school QB left on the board with an offer, that we know of. I wonder if the Cats may be looking for a transfer in the next few months instead.
Do we really want another QB recruit? I think we have two, or maybe three redshirting or freshman right now.
You could say the same thing for just about every position. I doubt the Cats would sign more than one QB though.
We currently have Tommy returning, Jordan Reed who will be a sophomore and looks solid and then 3 other freshman or redshirt freshman. I don’t see recruiting a QB as a necessity, and definitely not a priority.
Tommy will be a senior, Reed will be a sophomore, Wilson will be a freshman. Abshire and Duchien probably never play meaningful snaps at QB here, and with the transfer portal it’s real easy for a QB to leave if they’re not playing or there’s a coaching change.
It’s the most important position on the field. General rule of thumb is to get at least one QB every recruiting class.
I knew you would comment.

I haven’t heard or seen enough on Abshire or Duchien to make a determination. Pretty sure a lot of guys said that Tommy would never take a snap at QB when he was an incoming freshman. Were you one of them? Of course if guys don’t work out QB, it changes the equation. And any position makes exceptions for a 3 star recruit.
Look man, I’m strictly talking football here. Let’s leave it at that, k? Just football.
I’m really just talking reality here. Abshire is a walk-on who had offers from a D2 school and Whitworth, which I think is NAIA. Duchien is a partial from a small Montana school who isn’t a great athlete. I think both can be solid members of the roster, but the chances of either being a solid BSC starter are very low. I’m not sure I understand the Tommy comment. Tommy is good because he’s an elite athlete. If he were even an average athlete, he wouldn’t be starting at QB here. Again, nothing against the two guys I’ve mentioned, but they aren’t so good that you just don’t bring another QB in. They’re backups, and that’s not a bad thing! Valuable role on the roster, but in my mind, you still work on bringing a QB in every year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we work the transfer portal for a QB, personally. One to replace Chambers role.
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by VimSince03 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:23 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:24 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:22 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 am
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:08 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:58 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm
The Bobcats don’t have a single high school QB left on the board with an offer, that we know of. I wonder if the Cats may be looking for a transfer in the next few months instead.
Do we really want another QB recruit? I think we have two, or maybe three redshirting or freshman right now.
You could say the same thing for just about every position. I doubt the Cats would sign more than one QB though.
We currently have Tommy returning, Jordan Reed who will be a sophomore and looks solid and then 3 other freshman or redshirt freshman. I don’t see recruiting a QB as a necessity, and definitely not a priority.
Tommy will be a senior, Reed will be a sophomore, Wilson will be a freshman. Abshire and Duchien probably never play meaningful snaps at QB here, and with the transfer portal it’s real easy for a QB to leave if they’re not playing or there’s a coaching change.
It’s the most important position on the field. General rule of thumb is to get at least one QB every recruiting class.
I knew you would comment.

I haven’t heard or seen enough on Abshire or Duchien to make a determination. Pretty sure a lot of guys said that Tommy would never take a snap at QB when he was an incoming freshman. Were you one of them? Of course if guys don’t work out QB, it changes the equation. And any position makes exceptions for a 3 star recruit.
Look man, I’m strictly talking football here. Let’s leave it at that, k? Just football.
I’m really just talking reality here. Abshire is a walk-on who had offers from a D2 school and Whitworth, which I think is NAIA. Duchien is a partial from a small Montana school who isn’t a great athlete. I think both can be solid members of the roster, but the chances of either being a solid BSC starter are very low. I’m not sure I understand the Tommy comment. Tommy is good because he’s an elite athlete. If he were even an average athlete, he wouldn’t be starting at QB here. Again, nothing against the two guys I’ve mentioned, but they aren’t so good that you just don’t bring another QB in. They’re backups, and that’s not a bad thing! Valuable role on the roster, but in my mind, you still work on bringing a QB in every year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we work the transfer portal for a QB, personally. One to replace Chambers role.
We'll definitely be looking for a transfer but the Chambers role is such a unique situation. They like what they have in Chance Wilson and Jordan Reed will continue to develop. Personally I think it's clear Chance Wilson will be the future once Tommy graduates.
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by AFCAT » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:59 pm
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:23 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:24 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:22 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 am
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:08 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:58 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm
The Bobcats don’t have a single high school QB left on the board with an offer, that we know of. I wonder if the Cats may be looking for a transfer in the next few months instead.
Do we really want another QB recruit? I think we have two, or maybe three redshirting or freshman right now.
You could say the same thing for just about every position. I doubt the Cats would sign more than one QB though.
We currently have Tommy returning, Jordan Reed who will be a sophomore and looks solid and then 3 other freshman or redshirt freshman. I don’t see recruiting a QB as a necessity, and definitely not a priority.
Tommy will be a senior, Reed will be a sophomore, Wilson will be a freshman. Abshire and Duchien probably never play meaningful snaps at QB here, and with the transfer portal it’s real easy for a QB to leave if they’re not playing or there’s a coaching change.
It’s the most important position on the field. General rule of thumb is to get at least one QB every recruiting class.
I knew you would comment.

I haven’t heard or seen enough on Abshire or Duchien to make a determination. Pretty sure a lot of guys said that Tommy would never take a snap at QB when he was an incoming freshman. Were you one of them? Of course if guys don’t work out QB, it changes the equation. And any position makes exceptions for a 3 star recruit.
Look man, I’m strictly talking football here. Let’s leave it at that, k? Just football.
I’m really just talking reality here. Abshire is a walk-on who had offers from a D2 school and Whitworth, which I think is NAIA. Duchien is a partial from a small Montana school who isn’t a great athlete. I think both can be solid members of the roster, but the chances of either being a solid BSC starter are very low. I’m not sure I understand the Tommy comment. Tommy is good because he’s an elite athlete. If he were even an average athlete, he wouldn’t be starting at QB here. Again, nothing against the two guys I’ve mentioned, but they aren’t so good that you just don’t bring another QB in. They’re backups, and that’s not a bad thing! Valuable role on the roster, but in my mind, you still work on bringing a QB in every year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we work the transfer portal for a QB, personally. One to replace Chambers role.
We'll definitely be looking for a transfer but the Chambers role is such a unique situation. They like what they have in Chance Wilson and Jordan Reed will continue to develop. Personally I think it's clear Chance Wilson will be the future once Tommy graduates.
I was curious why the Cats didn't get Chance a few snaps during the season. I would have liked to see him under fire a bit, even if it was in garbage time.
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by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:33 pm
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:23 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:24 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:22 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 am
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:08 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:58 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm
The Bobcats don’t have a single high school QB left on the board with an offer, that we know of. I wonder if the Cats may be looking for a transfer in the next few months instead.
Do we really want another QB recruit? I think we have two, or maybe three redshirting or freshman right now.
You could say the same thing for just about every position. I doubt the Cats would sign more than one QB though.
We currently have Tommy returning, Jordan Reed who will be a sophomore and looks solid and then 3 other freshman or redshirt freshman. I don’t see recruiting a QB as a necessity, and definitely not a priority.
Tommy will be a senior, Reed will be a sophomore, Wilson will be a freshman. Abshire and Duchien probably never play meaningful snaps at QB here, and with the transfer portal it’s real easy for a QB to leave if they’re not playing or there’s a coaching change.
It’s the most important position on the field. General rule of thumb is to get at least one QB every recruiting class.
I knew you would comment.

I haven’t heard or seen enough on Abshire or Duchien to make a determination. Pretty sure a lot of guys said that Tommy would never take a snap at QB when he was an incoming freshman. Were you one of them? Of course if guys don’t work out QB, it changes the equation. And any position makes exceptions for a 3 star recruit.
Look man, I’m strictly talking football here. Let’s leave it at that, k? Just football.
I’m really just talking reality here. Abshire is a walk-on who had offers from a D2 school and Whitworth, which I think is NAIA. Duchien is a partial from a small Montana school who isn’t a great athlete. I think both can be solid members of the roster, but the chances of either being a solid BSC starter are very low. I’m not sure I understand the Tommy comment. Tommy is good because he’s an elite athlete. If he were even an average athlete, he wouldn’t be starting at QB here. Again, nothing against the two guys I’ve mentioned, but they aren’t so good that you just don’t bring another QB in. They’re backups, and that’s not a bad thing! Valuable role on the roster, but in my mind, you still work on bringing a QB in every year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we work the transfer portal for a QB, personally. One to replace Chambers role.
We'll definitely be looking for a transfer but the Chambers role is such a unique situation. They like what they have in Chance Wilson and Jordan Reed will continue to develop. Personally I think it's clear Chance Wilson will be the future once Tommy graduates.
I didn’t mean exactly the Chambers role, but I think they’ll want a veteran QB if they can find one willing to buy in. Next years team is going to have championship aspirations (again).
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by AFCAT » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:33 pm
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by AFCAT » Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:04 pm
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by SparkCat » Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:35 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:59 pm
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:23 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:24 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:22 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:07 am
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:08 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:58 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm
The Bobcats don’t have a single high school QB left on the board with an offer, that we know of. I wonder if the Cats may be looking for a transfer in the next few months instead.
Do we really want another QB recruit? I think we have two, or maybe three redshirting or freshman right now.
You could say the same thing for just about every position. I doubt the Cats would sign more than one QB though.
We currently have Tommy returning, Jordan Reed who will be a sophomore and looks solid and then 3 other freshman or redshirt freshman. I don’t see recruiting a QB as a necessity, and definitely not a priority.
Tommy will be a senior, Reed will be a sophomore, Wilson will be a freshman. Abshire and Duchien probably never play meaningful snaps at QB here, and with the transfer portal it’s real easy for a QB to leave if they’re not playing or there’s a coaching change.
It’s the most important position on the field. General rule of thumb is to get at least one QB every recruiting class.
I knew you would comment.

I haven’t heard or seen enough on Abshire or Duchien to make a determination. Pretty sure a lot of guys said that Tommy would never take a snap at QB when he was an incoming freshman. Were you one of them? Of course if guys don’t work out QB, it changes the equation. And any position makes exceptions for a 3 star recruit.
Look man, I’m strictly talking football here. Let’s leave it at that, k? Just football.
I’m really just talking reality here. Abshire is a walk-on who had offers from a D2 school and Whitworth, which I think is NAIA. Duchien is a partial from a small Montana school who isn’t a great athlete. I think both can be solid members of the roster, but the chances of either being a solid BSC starter are very low. I’m not sure I understand the Tommy comment. Tommy is good because he’s an elite athlete. If he were even an average athlete, he wouldn’t be starting at QB here. Again, nothing against the two guys I’ve mentioned, but they aren’t so good that you just don’t bring another QB in. They’re backups, and that’s not a bad thing! Valuable role on the roster, but in my mind, you still work on bringing a QB in every year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we work the transfer portal for a QB, personally. One to replace Chambers role.
We'll definitely be looking for a transfer but the Chambers role is such a unique situation. They like what they have in Chance Wilson and Jordan Reed will continue to develop. Personally I think it's clear Chance Wilson will be the future once Tommy graduates.
I was curious why the Cats didn't get Chance a few snaps during the season. I would have liked to see him under fire a bit, even if it was in garbage time.
I was pretty bummed to not see him too. They had/have pretty high aspirations for him, right?
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by AFCAT » Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:35 pm
It's interesting that the Cats don't have a single Texas commit even though they have put out significantly more offers in that state than any other location. I suspect that will change soon. I can see at least one or two players committing from Texas soon.
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by Montanabob » Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:41 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:35 pm
It's interesting that the Cats don't have a single Texas commit even though they have put out significantly more offers in that state than any other location. I suspect that will change soon. I can see at least one or two players committing from Texas soon.
a couple good programs this year may be taking a bite - tarleton and UIW
maybe the new WaC school also.
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by AFCAT » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:38 pm
Montanabob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:41 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:35 pm
It's interesting that the Cats don't have a single Texas commit even though they have put out significantly more offers in that state than any other location. I suspect that will change soon. I can see at least one or two players committing from Texas soon.
a couple good programs this year may be taking a bite - tarleton and UIW
maybe the new WaC school also.
So far, the Cats have only lost one Texas recruit to an FCS school and that was Grambling. Time will tell where the others go. I do believe the Cats have a good shot at landing Brendon Ross.
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by AFCAT » Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:10 pm
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by AFCAT » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:15 pm
Tony Dungy’s son. He hasn’t announced an an offer from the Cats though.
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by AFCAT » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:36 pm
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by VimSince03 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:42 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:36 pm
Yeah this kid is going to be a Grizzly.
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by AFCAT » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:39 pm
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:42 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:36 pm
Yeah this kid is going to a Grizzly.
I know. I was a bit surprised he came to MSU for the visit.
It's also interesting that, other than Montana kids, the Cats and gris don't really overlap much in their offers every year. Sure, there will be a few out of state kids every year that get offers from both schools but for the most part there isn't much of it happening these days.
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by AFCAT » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:47 pm
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by AFCAT » Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:38 pm
I see Vigen just started following Justin Dungy. I wonder if an offer has been made or will soon be made.
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by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:49 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:38 pm
I see Vigen just started following Justin Dungy. I wonder if an offer has been made or will soon be made.
Hopefully nothing more than a walk-on.