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Post by PapaG » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by LTown Cat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:59 pm
LTown Cat wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:56 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:07 pm
From what I've heard the past few weeks, this was expected regardless of how this season panned out. Omar has NFL aspirations and wants the FBS experience to prove it. Good luck to Omar!
So was he going to do this today even if the Cats were still playing? Or would he have entered the portal later?

Putting your name in while your team is still playing seems crazy to me but I guess here we are. 🤷🏻‍♂️
In the Football Bowl Subdivision, a 30-day window to enter the transfer portal begins Dec. 4. There is also a spring window from April 15-30. It's worth noting that these windows restrict when an athlete's name can be entered into the portal, not when they actually transfer to a different school.
So its not only now but also that final 15 day window in April post spring ball.
Gotcha. Thanks. 👍



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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by BFcatfan » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 pm

PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
Agreed also but whats weird to me is we have room full of Running Backs.. so 🤬


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by KIX » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:45 pm

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Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:41 pm
Another reason to go FBS. We will lose a lot of our top players every year. We are just a triple a farm team now. All these FBS schools will get the best FCS players. Get use to it or go FBS. Hate it but it’s the college athletics are today. It’s all about the money.
So MSU must work hard at getting some P5 dropdowns. Did a decent job last year and I'd take a few more Julius Davis types.



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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by technoCat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:46 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
Agreed also but whats weird to me is we have room full of Running Backs.. so 🤬
Do we? White was a no show until the last drive in regulation. Did Sumner have a carry? No Davis or Elliott?

I think Sean was banged up(reaggravated something) after like his 3rd play when he pulled up hard on a run. Not sure he was an option by that point of the game.


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by technoCat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 pm

KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:45 pm
JohnGotti wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:41 pm
Another reason to go FBS. We will lose a lot of our top players every year. We are just a triple a farm team now. All these FBS schools will get the best FCS players. Get use to it or go FBS. Hate it but it’s the college athletics are today. It’s all about the money.
So MSU must work hard at getting some P5 dropdowns. Did a decent job last year and I'd take a few more Julius Davis types.
I think we've seen those guys on the offensive side with Thomas, McCullouch, and Davis. Even that guy from Akron a couple years ago flashed(Stewart?). Best defensive player I can think of is Alston from Nebraska I think. Would like to see a couple big gets at LB to help out.


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by BFcatfan » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:53 pm

technoCat wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:46 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
Agreed also but whats weird to me is we have room full of Running Backs.. so 🤬
Do we? White was a no show until the last drive in regulation. Did Sumner have a carry? No Davis or Elliott?

I think Sean was banged up(reaggravated something) after like his 3rd play when he pulled up hard on a run. Not sure he was an option by that point of the game.
That’s what I’m asking.. where the hell were they? All injured?


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by Bobcat Sig » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:03 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:53 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:46 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
Agreed also but whats weird to me is we have room full of Running Backs.. so 🤬
Do we? White was a no show until the last drive in regulation. Did Sumner have a carry? No Davis or Elliott?

I think Sean was banged up(reaggravated something) after like his 3rd play when he pulled up hard on a run. Not sure he was an option by that point of the game.
That’s what I’m asking.. where the hell were they? All injured?
Davis, though dressed, was reportedly not playing due to turf toe. No idea why White had so few carries.


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by jgrilley406 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 pm

PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
The thing I hated about that play was, it was an obvious run play, so why go empty backfield when NDSU was gonna sell out to stop the run right there just didn’t like the obvious qb draw. Should’ve been some sort of read option with a running back to slow the defense down a little bit instead of having all 11 guys heading right for Tommy.



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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by PapaG » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:23 pm

technoCat wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:46 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
Agreed also but whats weird to me is we have room full of Running Backs.. so 🤬
Do we? White was a no show until the last drive in regulation. Did Sumner have a carry? No Davis or Elliott?

I think Sean was banged up(reaggravated something) after like his 3rd play when he pulled up hard on a run. Not sure he was an option by that point of the game.
Davis wasn’t dressed, right? And it was Caden Dowler I saw in the Southwest concourse at halftime so he must have not even been on the field. As for the RBs, who played the most seemed to change on a weekly basis and it was odd all season to me but all the backs were productive so it worked.


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by PapaG » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:26 pm

jgrilley406 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
The thing I hated about that play was, it was an obvious run play, so why go empty backfield when NDSU was gonna sell out to stop the run right there just didn’t like the obvious qb draw. Should’ve been some sort of read option with a running back to slow the defense down a little bit instead of having all 11 guys heading right for Tommy.
Right before the snap the two interior DL simultaneously shifted to A-gap from B-gap on both sides of Perkins and that’s what blew up the play. Probably could have used a timeout and you’re correct IMO, a new play.


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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:20 pm

PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:23 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:46 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:09 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:55 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:27 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:22 pm
Everyone should keep in mind All-Big Sky OG JT Reed should be ready to roll next year who was our presumed starter heading into this season. We also have Cole Sain returning for another year. We also have like three to four other kids ready to jump into the competition. If we lose three starters from this years team, we still have one of the best lines in the country. The talent pool is deep.
Unless there is a mass exodus, the online and RB positions have depth any FCS program should envy and the WR/TE groups have good top talent going into next season. It’s all about quarterback for me and Tommy’s timeline almost with a capable backup. I’m not expecting Chambers but there needs to be a contingency plan because of Mellott being injury-prone.
He’s injury prone because the amount of times he carries the rock per game. Pretty easy to fix that. Teams always want to tee off on QBs. Give the Defense something to think about and look at on a 3 and one instead of an empty set behind Tommy. Hellen Keller can read that play. The coaches have abused him in my opinion
I pointed this out after the 2021 playoff run that him getting hit so often wasn’t sustainable in terms of staying healthy and some posters seemed to think it didn’t matter if he got hit 5 times or 30 times. Really made me question some of the football IQ here on such an obvious cause/effect scenario. The sad thing is the NDSU game showed a great balance in run/pass for Tommy and the hits he took only for him to be knocked out of the game on a play I was calling for Chambers to run but it’s understandable to run it with Mellott. It’s not as if he couldn’t get the yardage, I just felt Chambers gave the better odds.
Agreed also but whats weird to me is we have room full of Running Backs.. so 🤬
Do we? White was a no show until the last drive in regulation. Did Sumner have a carry? No Davis or Elliott?

I think Sean was banged up(reaggravated something) after like his 3rd play when he pulled up hard on a run. Not sure he was an option by that point of the game.
Davis wasn’t dressed, right? And it was Caden Dowler I saw in the Southwest concourse at halftime so he must have not even been on the field. As for the RBs, who played the most seemed to change on a weekly basis and it was odd all season to me but all the backs were productive so it worked.
Davis was suited out.



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Re: Omar in the portal

Post by Travelingcat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:56 pm

JohnGotti wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:41 pm
Another reason to go FBS. We will lose a lot of our top players every year. We are just a triple a farm team now. All these FBS schools will get the best FCS players. Get use to it or go FBS. Hate it but it’s the college athletics are today. It’s all about the money.
I think fairly or not we'll lose many fewer players if we were FBS. The draft stigma is just not nearly as high for the FBS schools as it is for FCS, and a successful G5 FBS Player will probably have 6-10 games vs. Power 5 competition to evaluate on film over four years.



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Post by cats2506 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:10 pm

Sucks for us, I loved watching Omar flatten defensive players, I think he can play at the highest level so I can't say I blame him for wanting a bigger stage.


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Post by tetoncat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:47 pm

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Not at all. Just saying we will lose most of our best players to FBS.
And we will if we are G5 or lower also. With TV deals there will soon be 2 or three power conferences with about 40 teams and then all the rest trying to survive. Universities will figure out NIL is unsustainable for most as it drags down the donations for other needs and programs. Will networks funnel money to conferences not playing with the big boys any more to fill in the weekday time slots or treat them like they do the Fcs.


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Post by AFCAT » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:27 pm

He already has four FBS offers, two in Texas.


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Now Texas Tech. He is set for some cash.


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Post by wbtfg » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:39 pm

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Now Texas Tech. He is set for some cash.
Last I saw, the Texas Tech NIL collective had an annual budget of $8million.


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Post by tetoncat » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:49 pm

Are there 84 scholarship players. And then some non scholarship that still get NIL. At 84 that is under 100,000 per kid if all got same. Would expect stars and starters get more?


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tetoncat wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:49 pm
Are there 84 scholarship players. And then some non scholarship that still get NIL. At 84 that is under 100,000 per kid if all got same. Would expect stars and starters get more?
Looks like just the team collective. Individual and other position group deals are probably even more.


QB Club https://www.msubqc.org
Bobcat Collective https://bobcatcollective.com/

Bobcat athletics is a business to the coaches, school leadership, and players. It's time the fans treat Bobcat athletics as a business too.

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