Tommy Mellott

[technoCat]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

I was looking at Tommy’s numbers versus Miller's yesterday and they pretty much line up. Tommy needs to double his passing next year and reduce his running by a lot. Hopefully Wilson can step up to take the Payton/Chambers role or maybe they fit in Reed a bit more. I'm hoping whomever is OC(not sure if I'm totally on the fire House train or not) can get it in his head he doesn't have to carry the team all by himself.

[jgrilley406]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

[BleedingBLue]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

[mslacatfan]

Does anyone know what the injury was? Ankle or knee?

I’m sure we will know soon enough, but anyone know?

[jgrilley406]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

Yep and have more pass plays like they did in the 2nd half especially. Cats are dynamic in the running game and every team knows it and sells out on stopping it and routes over the middle is so open. With the talent at RB and how explosive the passing game could be if they’d just run routes beside the jump ball, there’s very little exposure Tommy should/need to be making with his own legs.

[91catAlum]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

Yep and have more pass plays like they did in the 2nd half especially. Cats are dynamic in the running game and every team knows it and sells out on stopping it and routes over the middle is so open. With the talent at RB and how explosive the passing game could be if they’d just run routes beside the jump ball, there’s very little exposure Tommy should/need to be making with his own legs.

That's true but if you don't let Tommy run then you're taking away his greatest strength. If you want a pocket passer then Mellott probably shouldn't be your starter.

[Bobcat4Ever]

I want the coaching staff to promise *never* to put Tommy (or any QB) in an empty backfield on 4th and 2. That’s just saying “Okay, here’s our prized QB, take your best shot.” They did. At least give him a fullback to keep 500+ pounds of defensive linemen from falling directly on top of him. Putting him in that situation was criminal.

[MountainCat]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

Yep and have more pass plays like they did in the 2nd half especially. Cats are dynamic in the running game and every team knows it and sells out on stopping it and routes over the middle is so open. With the talent at RB and how explosive the passing game could be if they’d just run routes beside the jump ball, there’s very little exposure Tommy should/need to be making with his own legs.

That's true but if you don't let Tommy run then you're taking away his greatest strength. If you want a pocket passer then Mellott probably shouldn't be your starter.

I think a year ago that may have been true, not sure it is anymore. Tommy was not as quick on runs or cuts this year, he had a few moments of hesitation while running or preparing to be hit. I think last years injuries had an effect on this years play (very slight), and have to wonder if his latest injury could could slow him down more whether physically or mentally. The short passing game yesterday showed how effective it CAN be, I’m willing to bet heavily that this offseason we see more shift to passing in some capacity. Running the ball will likely remain our identity, but I’m betting that Tommy does less of it.

[CatsNoMatterWhat]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

Yep and have more pass plays like they did in the 2nd half especially. Cats are dynamic in the running game and every team knows it and sells out on stopping it and routes over the middle is so open. With the talent at RB and how explosive the passing game could be if they’d just run routes beside the jump ball, there’s very little exposure Tommy should/need to be making with his own legs.

That's true but if you don't let Tommy run then you're taking away his greatest strength. If you want a pocket passer then Mellott probably shouldn't be your starter.

I think a year ago that may have been true, not sure it is anymore. Tommy was not as quick on runs or cuts this year, he had a few moments of hesitation while running or preparing to be hit. I think last years injuries had an effect on this years play (very slight), and have to wonder if his latest injury could could slow him down more whether physically or mentally. The short passing game yesterday showed how effective it CAN be, I’m willing to bet heavily that this offseason we see more shift to passing in some capacity. Running the ball will likely remain our identity, but I’m betting that Tommy does less of it.

The injuries are piling up and they're all lower body. This one looked gnarly. He'll lose some speed...there's no way he can't.

I'd like to see more short pass game, but he's always going to be a running QB.

[TomCat88]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

[kwcat]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

Yep and have more pass plays like they did in the 2nd half especially. Cats are dynamic in the running game and every team knows it and sells out on stopping it and routes over the middle is so open. With the talent at RB and how explosive the passing game could be if they’d just run routes beside the jump ball, there’s very little exposure Tommy should/need to be making with his own legs.

It was good to see the throws over the middle. Tommy was pretty antsy on the first couple of throws and then settled in and did well.

[Mtcatfan]

I think with the RPO the Cats run so often that Tommy runs a lot by choice. He had many opportunities to feed the ball to the running back - Humphrey mostly. And the blocking scheme is set up to provide a hole for that and absolutely did and would have resulted in big gains if Tommy handed it off. Not to be critical of Tommy - what a great player and an epic game by him.

[BelligerentBobcat]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

You can walk on a torn acl.

[utucats]

I think with the RPO the Cats run so often that Tommy runs a lot by choice. He had many opportunities to feed the ball to the running back - Humphrey mostly. And the blocking scheme is set up to provide a hole for that and absolutely did and would have resulted in big gains if Tommy handed it off. Not to be critical of Tommy - what a great player and an epic game by him.

No offense but this same craziness was being presented during the game day thread. RPO doesn’t mean the QB just gets to choose whatever he feels like doing. There is a read and based on that read the QB reacts. I’m not some kind of expert but a typical run read option the QB may be reading the DE. He goes outside we hand it off to the back running up the middle, he goes inside the QB pulls it from the back and runs outside. With the RPO Tommy may be reading a LB or a safety. They attack a gap he pulls it and looks to throw, no one open he runs. With our running game it’s reasonable to assume that those conflict players are attacking the box regularly which explains him keeping the ball so much.

Like I said, I’m not an expert and may have messed some details up and I’m certain that I’ve oversimplified the process but I haven’t got it nearly as wrong as those that think Tommy is just deciding to hell with the RB I’m gonna keep it.

I’m assuming the fact that Tommy was QB1 is partially due to him reading and processing faster and more accurately than our other QBs.

[catsrback76]

You were not alone in your feelings and I will also sit down at the table and gladly eat some crow with you. Gutsy performance. That is the Tommy I have been waiting for. The kid was by FAR the best player on the field and played with so much heart. Incredibly disappointed for him (and the team) that this did not go down in history as one of the greatest wins in Bobcat history.

Clint said it best here. Chambers being hurt made sense to why his absence was noted. Mellot played amazing.

That last game was the single most complete and best game of Tommy’s career IMO, and that’s saying a lot. If he wasn’t injured I’m convinced we’d have won the game. He was lit!

[TomCat88]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

You can walk on a torn acl.

True, but I don’t recall them testing his knee for that. Did they? Usually when it’s a knee they have the person lay on their back, bend at the knee and then kinda pull from the back of the calf. If they did that, then it’s a knee injury.

[BelligerentBobcat]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

You can walk on a torn acl.

True, but I don’t recall them testing his knee for that. Did they? Usually when it’s a knee they have the person lay on their back, bend at the knee and then kinda pull from the back of the calf. If they did that, then it’s a knee injury.

I didn’t see it, tbh. Really hopeful it’s a sprain and not a tear.

[TomCat88]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

You can walk on a torn acl.

True, but I don’t recall them testing his knee for that. Did they? Usually when it’s a knee they have the person lay on their back, bend at the knee and then kinda pull from the back of the calf. If they did that, then it’s a knee injury.

I didn’t see it, tbh. Really hopeful it’s a sprain and not a tear.

I thought they were looking at his ankle when he was on the ground. I thought by the way he was limping it was an ankle. But I really don’t know and probably shouldn’t speculate so strongly.

Would suck obviously if it’s a torn acl. He’s gifted. Has a shot at the NFL at a different position. I wouldn’t mind seeing him at safety next year if other QBs can develop into quality players. I think Reed is very close. Adding Lonyatta Alexander to the WR corps may bring about some philosophical changes in the passing game.

[gris_h8er]

Better play calling would have given Tommy and the Cats a 2 score win. Unfortunately, Tommy got hurt and the Cats lose by a predictable special teams blunder.

Oh look another opportunity in a different thread for me to bag on housewrong.

Takeaways from the game: Tommy is a stud and a gamer. Always has been.
Defense can be effective when they aren’t put into ultra conservative packages.
Tommy should not be ran between the tackles with an empty backfield. (Didn’t know this was a mystery to housewrong) someone get the crayons out and draw him a picture.
Get out the pitchforks and torches and run housewrong out of town.
And now that the pitchforks are out and touches on fire run Garza out too.

[gris_h8er]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

I was looking at Tommy’s numbers versus Miller's yesterday and they pretty much line up. Tommy needs to double his passing next year and reduce his running by a lot. Hopefully Wilson can step up to take the Payton/Chambers role or maybe they fit in Reed a bit more. I'm hoping whomever is OC(not sure if I'm totally on the fire House train or not) can get it in his head he doesn't have to carry the team all by himself.

Why would you want the fastest player in the conference to run less? His running needs to be utilized better. He’s not a passer and tryin to turn him into one on a rushing team is a terrible idea. Dumb play call got him hurt. A better play call results in no injury and a first down.