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Interesting insight into whats going on internally to the program?
https://x.com/jpadmos12/status/17297296 ... sA [x.com]
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A tweet from a guy who graduated 2 years before Vigen and staff arrived on campus?RangeRider wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:48 amInteresting insight into whats going on internally to the program?
https://x.com/jpadmos12/status/17297296 ... sA [x.com]
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When is the last time the Cats hired an experienced OC? Courtney Messingham?
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Okay, after reading other comments my 2nd take is that,
1. He's a horrible interview, much like that guy over the mountain who we all love to hate, and,
2. There's not too much he could really say in light of the Cats still playing, so not wanting to give Entz and other coaches anything to use against us.
We all want answers as to the Chambers deal, and we won't get them until after the season ends, if then. Depending on how playoffs go Vigen and Co. will either be heroes or duds. I'm going with heroes until they show me different.
I refuse to think the sky is falling on this team. If it does then I'm going to be on board with some major coaching changes being made. Until then though, I'm going to the game Saturday expecting an electric environment and a great game! GO CATS!!!
1. He's a horrible interview, much like that guy over the mountain who we all love to hate, and,
2. There's not too much he could really say in light of the Cats still playing, so not wanting to give Entz and other coaches anything to use against us.
We all want answers as to the Chambers deal, and we won't get them until after the season ends, if then. Depending on how playoffs go Vigen and Co. will either be heroes or duds. I'm going with heroes until they show me different.
I refuse to think the sky is falling on this team. If it does then I'm going to be on board with some major coaching changes being made. Until then though, I'm going to the game Saturday expecting an electric environment and a great game! GO CATS!!!
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MSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
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If an FCS program has an experienced coordinator, he's probably at the FCS level for a reason (not good, local that doesn't want to move, issues while at FBS).CelticCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:53 amWhen is the last time the Cats hired an experienced OC? Courtney Messingham?
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Echoed my point perfectly.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
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The problem with Mess is we didn't have the horses to run what he wanted to run, and he was inflexible using what he had.CelticCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:53 amWhen is the last time the Cats hired an experienced OC? Courtney Messingham?
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But we didn't make those plays, and we're 8-3. Plus there's more to it than just oh we didn't make 2 plays. The offensive gameplan was sh*t against SDSU, it took until the final 2 minutes to open up the playbook. The offensive gameplan against Idaho sucked in the first half, then we went back to what we do and almost came back but again we didn't. The offensive gameplan against Montana again sucked ass, the week prior we threw all over EWU and their aggressive D but completely changed things up for UM. Even some of the games we won it was only because of depth and too much talent, the Offensive gameplan has been a problem in a lot of games this year, no Rythm and when they find it Housewright calls something cute and destroys it. Housewright has made me say WTF are you doing every game this year. He's a problem.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
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I think the criticism of the gameplan for the SDSU game is entirely valid, MSU got way too conservative and it cost them. Whether that was Vigen's decision or Housewright's or a combination of both, I don't know. But it isn't the first time they've done it, although the first time in the 2021 Weber game they still got the win. Personally I have no problem with the Idaho game from a coaching standpoint. There were multiple successful first half play calls that weren't executed by the players, and unfortunately those mistakes led to a massive ToP advantage for Idaho and a gassed MSU defense in the second half. The main point I was trying to make is that the margin between a 10-1 season and a 8-3 season is razor thin and can hinge on a few plays going one way or the other. For whatever reason the coordinators always take the brunt of criticism when things don't go well, I guess that's just how it will always be.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:13 amBut we didn't make those plays, and we're 8-3. Plus there's more to it than just oh we didn't make 2 plays. The offensive gameplan was sh*t against SDSU, it took until the final 2 minutes to open up the playbook. The offensive gameplan against Idaho sucked in the first half, then we went back to what we do and almost came back but again we didn't. The offensive gameplan against Montana again sucked ass, the week prior we threw all over EWU and their aggressive D but completely changed things up for UM. Even some of the games we won it was only because of depth and too much talent, the Offensive gameplan has been a problem in a lot of games this year, no Rythm and when they find it Housewright calls something cute and destroys it. Housewright has made me say WTF are you doing every game this year. He's a problem.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
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Housewright didn’t coach against SDSU.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:24 amI think the criticism of the gameplan for the SDSU game is entirely valid, MSU got way too conservative and it cost them. Whether that was Vigen's decision or Housewright's or a combination of both, I don't know. But it isn't the first time they've done it, although the first time in the 2021 Weber game they still got the win. Personally I have no problem with the Idaho game from a coaching standpoint. There were multiple successful first half play calls that weren't executed by the players, and unfortunately those mistakes led to a massive ToP advantage for Idaho and a gassed MSU defense in the second half. The main point I was trying to make is that the margin between a 10-1 season and a 8-3 season is razor thin and can hinge on a few plays going one way or the other. For whatever reason the coordinators always take the brunt of criticism when things don't go well, I guess that's just how it will always be.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:13 amBut we didn't make those plays, and we're 8-3. Plus there's more to it than just oh we didn't make 2 plays. The offensive gameplan was sh*t against SDSU, it took until the final 2 minutes to open up the playbook. The offensive gameplan against Idaho sucked in the first half, then we went back to what we do and almost came back but again we didn't. The offensive gameplan against Montana again sucked ass, the week prior we threw all over EWU and their aggressive D but completely changed things up for UM. Even some of the games we won it was only because of depth and too much talent, the Offensive gameplan has been a problem in a lot of games this year, no Rythm and when they find it Housewright calls something cute and destroys it. Housewright has made me say WTF are you doing every game this year. He's a problem.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
Vigen was too conservative. Housewright is too cute and isn’t conservative enough. The Bobcats would be undefeated if BN called plays. If you yell on the sideline you’re immature and an asshole. If you don’t yell on the sideline you don’t care enough.
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I don't think that's a fair assessment. We did not compete "poorly" at 2 of our 3 losses. True we didn't make the plays that needed to be made, but we're talking about 4 and 3 point losses on the road at the #1 and #4 seeds. You just cannot honestly describe those losses as "poorly competed".ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
You are 100% correct if you describe how we competed at missoula as "poorly", however.
Lets say you guys get your way and the coaching staff is let go. Who do you think MSU is going to be able to hire that could consistently go on the road and beat the #1, 2, and 4 teams in the country?
Or better question: What coach in their right mind would take this job if our current staff was let go after just 3 years, after an 8-3 season vs. the 6th toughest schedule?
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I would say not so much SDSU, but the Idaho game was not lost in the last 2:00 minutes. It was lost in the previous 58 minutes.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
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That interview. Yikes! Red flags all over it.
Somebody has a serious character flaw for a teammate, and especially a coach. He might be a fine INDIVIDUAL, but this one character flaw should be the nail in coffin for coordinating any group of people.
Padmos nailed it!
Somebody has a serious character flaw for a teammate, and especially a coach. He might be a fine INDIVIDUAL, but this one character flaw should be the nail in coffin for coordinating any group of people.
Padmos nailed it!
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2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:08 amPeople have been getting extremely spoiled/arrogant/disrespectful on this board/twitter/etc.
House/Vigen/anyone associated with bobcat football does not owe us any answers for anything, not why some one didn’t play much, not why certain plays were called and not specifics on injuries.
The fact that we are calling for coaches jobs after an 8-3 year and a first round bye is RIDICULOUS.
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Against Idaho in the 2nd half the offense averaged almost 9 yards per play. Obviously the first half was terrible, but the second half was above average. I wouldn’t call that performing poorly. As a whole, it was below standards, but not poor.ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
I don’t see how we performed poorly against SDSU. Both offensively and defensively we played better than the averages for SDSU. If you look at the numbers without context you can say it was poor, but that was a freaking good team we played and that game was a 50/50 coin flip for who won. They didn’t perform poorly, they just played a darn good team.
UM they played poorly.
Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t fire a staff over 1.5 games. Maybe let’s see how the playoffs go and the season is actually over before we make outlandish decisions.
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There’s no insight here. Just a guy calling out Housewright for not being externally accountable, which is accurate imo. None of us know what he’s like with the team though, including Padmos.RangeRider wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:48 amInteresting insight into whats going on internally to the program?
https://x.com/jpadmos12/status/17297296 ... sA [x.com]
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SDSU was Housewright's first game back. You should change your name to knowitallBobcat.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:38 amHousewright didn’t coach against SDSU.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:24 amI think the criticism of the gameplan for the SDSU game is entirely valid, MSU got way too conservative and it cost them. Whether that was Vigen's decision or Housewright's or a combination of both, I don't know. But it isn't the first time they've done it, although the first time in the 2021 Weber game they still got the win. Personally I have no problem with the Idaho game from a coaching standpoint. There were multiple successful first half play calls that weren't executed by the players, and unfortunately those mistakes led to a massive ToP advantage for Idaho and a gassed MSU defense in the second half. The main point I was trying to make is that the margin between a 10-1 season and a 8-3 season is razor thin and can hinge on a few plays going one way or the other. For whatever reason the coordinators always take the brunt of criticism when things don't go well, I guess that's just how it will always be.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:13 amBut we didn't make those plays, and we're 8-3. Plus there's more to it than just oh we didn't make 2 plays. The offensive gameplan was sh*t against SDSU, it took until the final 2 minutes to open up the playbook. The offensive gameplan against Idaho sucked in the first half, then we went back to what we do and almost came back but again we didn't. The offensive gameplan against Montana again sucked ass, the week prior we threw all over EWU and their aggressive D but completely changed things up for UM. Even some of the games we won it was only because of depth and too much talent, the Offensive gameplan has been a problem in a lot of games this year, no Rythm and when they find it Housewright calls something cute and destroys it. Housewright has made me say WTF are you doing every game this year. He's a problem.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
Vigen was too conservative. Housewright is too cute and isn’t conservative enough. The Bobcats would be undefeated if BN called plays. If you yell on the sideline you’re immature and an asshole. If you don’t yell on the sideline you don’t care enough.
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This is true, but the only passes, except 1 i think, were back shoulder fades... Why are we throwing low percentage passes on 3rd down.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:24 amI think the criticism of the gameplan for the SDSU game is entirely valid, MSU got way too conservative and it cost them. Whether that was Vigen's decision or Housewright's or a combination of both, I don't know. But it isn't the first time they've done it, although the first time in the 2021 Weber game they still got the win. Personally I have no problem with the Idaho game from a coaching standpoint. There were multiple successful first half play calls that weren't executed by the players, and unfortunately those mistakes led to a massive ToP advantage for Idaho and a gassed MSU defense in the second half. The main point I was trying to make is that the margin between a 10-1 season and a 8-3 season is razor thin and can hinge on a few plays going one way or the other. For whatever reason the coordinators always take the brunt of criticism when things don't go well, I guess that's just how it will always be.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:13 amBut we didn't make those plays, and we're 8-3. Plus there's more to it than just oh we didn't make 2 plays. The offensive gameplan was sh*t against SDSU, it took until the final 2 minutes to open up the playbook. The offensive gameplan against Idaho sucked in the first half, then we went back to what we do and almost came back but again we didn't. The offensive gameplan against Montana again sucked ass, the week prior we threw all over EWU and their aggressive D but completely changed things up for UM. Even some of the games we won it was only because of depth and too much talent, the Offensive gameplan has been a problem in a lot of games this year, no Rythm and when they find it Housewright calls something cute and destroys it. Housewright has made me say WTF are you doing every game this year. He's a problem.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
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Housewright was suspended for the opener against Utah Tech but was back for SDSU and beyond. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your points, message board fans are flawless gameplanners and playcallers with our small advantage of knowing in hindsight exactly how well those gameplans and play calls ended up working.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:38 amHousewright didn’t coach against SDSU.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:24 amI think the criticism of the gameplan for the SDSU game is entirely valid, MSU got way too conservative and it cost them. Whether that was Vigen's decision or Housewright's or a combination of both, I don't know. But it isn't the first time they've done it, although the first time in the 2021 Weber game they still got the win. Personally I have no problem with the Idaho game from a coaching standpoint. There were multiple successful first half play calls that weren't executed by the players, and unfortunately those mistakes led to a massive ToP advantage for Idaho and a gassed MSU defense in the second half. The main point I was trying to make is that the margin between a 10-1 season and a 8-3 season is razor thin and can hinge on a few plays going one way or the other. For whatever reason the coordinators always take the brunt of criticism when things don't go well, I guess that's just how it will always be.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:13 amBut we didn't make those plays, and we're 8-3. Plus there's more to it than just oh we didn't make 2 plays. The offensive gameplan was sh*t against SDSU, it took until the final 2 minutes to open up the playbook. The offensive gameplan against Idaho sucked in the first half, then we went back to what we do and almost came back but again we didn't. The offensive gameplan against Montana again sucked ass, the week prior we threw all over EWU and their aggressive D but completely changed things up for UM. Even some of the games we won it was only because of depth and too much talent, the Offensive gameplan has been a problem in a lot of games this year, no Rythm and when they find it Housewright calls something cute and destroys it. Housewright has made me say WTF are you doing every game this year. He's a problem.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 amMSU is two plays away from being 10-1 instead of 8-3. Lost by a fraction of an inch at SDSU and had they made one more play against Idaho (Dowler's end zone drop, Hall's missed FGs) they very likely win that game too. Last year those breaks went in MSU's favor, namely the EWU game when Eastern fumbled when they led late and had the ball, and the first Weber game when aside from the four safeties they dropped a wide open fourth down pass while driving for the winning TD late.2015cat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:44 amSay the TD wasn’t overturned vs SDSU and say the kick is good vs Idaho. Two things that the coaching staff don’t have a say in. How different do you look at this season and staff?ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:40 amI think you’re failing to understand just how poorly we have competed against good competition.
However, out of curiosity how many years in a row would the scenario you describe be acceptable before a change should be implemented? Honest question…
Vigen was too conservative. Housewright is too cute and isn’t conservative enough. The Bobcats would be undefeated if BN called plays. If you yell on the sideline you’re immature and an asshole. If you don’t yell on the sideline you don’t care enough.