Chambers & The Playoff Gameplan

[gris_h8er]

the problem with this coaching staff they make changes to late after the game is over. I don't know maybe make the change during the game

What changes? I saw bad play calling following up ridiculous play calling. Add in misinformed personnel decisions. Hard to call any of that changes. I’d prefer inconsistent coaching with changes that show improvement rather than consistently bad decisions. (Gris and idaho games. This staff can game plan and smoke mediocre teams)

Vigen has a great opportunity to override personnel and game plans that have been underwhelming at best and prove he’s the head coach.

If there was any doubt turns out I’m still annoyed with the gris disaster.

[NCagalum]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

[tetoncat]

Against EWU, Chambers had 190 total yards and accounted for 5 TD, while taking only 9 snaps. How can you not have a player with that kind of production and efficiency on the field more than he was against UM? He won two BSC POTW awards, despite his limited playing time this season. I've always thought the offense just seems to look smoother and seems more dynamic when he's on the field.

Not trying to take anything away from Chambers but EWU didnt really do much in that game. They had the football beat out of them before the game started. Crazy how far that program has sunk. I agree that the offense under Chambers seems a bit smoother but im still not sold on the rotation of the 2 QB in loud environments. Seems like it throws the cadence off and the offense takes a bit to adjust. Gregorak mentioned that struggle over a couple games this season.

Exactly. It's cool that he had the game he had, but EWU had checked out. Chambers seems to have trouble in noisy environments. I think all but one false start vs SDSU was with him in the game and the linemen and TEs were looking at him like he was from Mars after a few of those calls. Also against Idaho he had a DOG and then UM he either had a DOG or a FS, plus he and Davis seemed confused.

We should have gotten beat by a much bigger score than we did vs UM. That's one thing that gives me hope for the next game against them. We couldn't have played much worse in all three phases.

I think we'll see more Tommy and Sean on the field together the rest of the way. More plays with multiple handoffs. We need to get our athletes in space, especially Tommy, Sean, Marqui, Taco, McCullouch. That will make the run game more consistent. Can't just rely on RPO and play action all the time. I don't think matters who starts but we need to mix it up more.

Marquis is another player non existent in our game plans.

[catsrback76]

Against EWU, Chambers had 190 total yards and accounted for 5 TD, while taking only 9 snaps. How can you not have a player with that kind of production and efficiency on the field more than he was against UM? He won two BSC POTW awards, despite his limited playing time this season. I've always thought the offense just seems to look smoother and seems more dynamic when he's on the field.

Not trying to take anything away from Chambers but EWU didnt really do much in that game. They had the football beat out of them before the game started. Crazy how far that program has sunk. I agree that the offense under Chambers seems a bit smoother but im still not sold on the rotation of the 2 QB in loud environments. Seems like it throws the cadence off and the offense takes a bit to adjust. Gregorak mentioned that struggle over a couple games this season.

Exactly. It's cool that he had the game he had, but EWU had checked out. Chambers seems to have trouble in noisy environments. I think all but one false start vs SDSU was with him in the game and the linemen and TEs were looking at him like he was from Mars after a few of those calls. Also against Idaho he had a DOG and then UM he either had a DOG or a FS, plus he and Davis seemed confused.

We should have gotten beat by a much bigger score than we did vs UM. That's one thing that gives me hope for the next game against them. We couldn't have played much worse in all three phases.

I think we'll see more Tommy and Sean on the field together the rest of the way. More plays with multiple handoffs. We need to get our athletes in space, especially Tommy, Sean, Marqui, Taco, McCullouch. That will make the run game more consistent. Can't just rely on RPO and play action all the time. I don't think matters who starts but we need to mix it up more.

Marquis is another player non existent in our game plans.

This! The fastest guy in the BSC and he watches kickoffs sail over his head!

[TomCat88]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

[bobcatfan123]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

Getting three and outs and leaving our defense out for long durations doesn’t help the pass defense much either…

Do you think our pass defense is “fixable”. Or are we just who we are?

[TomCat88]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

Getting three and outs and leaving our defense out for long durations doesn’t help the pass defense much either…

Do you think our pass defense is “fixable”. Or are we just who we are?

No idea. Griz started out something like 11-13-0, 133 yards.

[KIX]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

Getting three and outs and leaving our defense out for long durations doesn’t help the pass defense much either…

Do you think our pass defense is “fixable”. Or are we just who we are?

No idea. Griz started out something like 11-13-0, 133 yards.

I has to start with the front 6-7 getting some pressure on the opposing O-line and QB. To me, they are always way too spread out with holes everywhere. They run the same stunts over and over...way too predictable.

[CatsNoMatterWhat]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

Getting three and outs and leaving our defense out for long durations doesn’t help the pass defense much either…

Do you think our pass defense is “fixable”. Or are we just who we are?

Completely agree. The offense simply cannot come out flat against a hot team like NDSU.

[kwcat]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

Getting three and outs and leaving our defense out for long durations doesn’t help the pass defense much either…

Do you think our pass defense is “fixable”. Or are we just who we are?

No idea. Griz started out something like 11-13-0, 133 yards.

Largely ineffective pressure on Mcd didn’t help.

[Bocephus]

I have also been perplexed as to why Chambers is not seeing more action. He pretty much single-handedly took it to Davis last year (was there in person and was quite impressed). And my recollection is that he played a majority of the South Dakota State game in which the Bobcats nearly won.

You have got to get your best players as many touches as possible. Mellot is very good, but in my opinion I would have Chambers as the starting QB and use Tommy as a back, flanker, slot, even receiver. Could rotate him in at QB in specific conditions. Right now it seems that Chambers is limited to specific situations and hence sees limited field time. I think opposing teams aren’t worried at all about stretching the field with the passing game and have adapted somewhat to the “Mellot scheme”. Anyway my thoughts.

My guess is since they have been going with Chambers situationally and it has now backfired twice against good teams they’re going to just build Chambers into the system. What that will look like is anybody’s guess. They saw it the first time but they probably just figured it was a fluke. I don’t think they want to lose another game with Chambers not involved. But, whatever, it won’t matter much if they don’t fix the pass defense.

Getting three and outs and leaving our defense out for long durations doesn’t help the pass defense much either…

Do you think our pass defense is “fixable”. Or are we just who we are?

No idea. Griz started out something like 11-13-0, 133 yards.

Largely ineffective pressure on Mcd didn’t help.

He looked like freaking Peyton Manning in the pocket he had so much time.

[RangeRider]

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. Does not give me warm and fuzzy feelings about adjustments

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sk ... 78819.html

[catatac]

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. Does not give me warm and fuzzy feelings about adjustments

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sk ... 78819.html

Oh I'm sure there will be adjustments, but probably not to the level that some fans want. I know some fans think Chambers should be QB1 and take the majority of the snaps, but obviously the coaches are adamant that Tommy is pretty much the clear cut QB1 in terms of the entire package that goes into being the QB. They make the decisions that give us the best chance to win, or they like get fired and stuff. I'm just going to trust this coaching staff to get this team rolling again like they have for the vast majority of games this year.

[catatac]

One other follow up point to my last post, if anyone thinks we would have beat the Griz with Chambers as QB1 versus Tommy..... I for one am saying no chance in hell. Way to many mistakes all over the board that day, including some bad defense.

[VimSince03]

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. Does not give me warm and fuzzy feelings about adjustments

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sk ... 78819.html

In the words of Housewright, it was...interesting.

[GoGriz1023]

I still think Chambers is hurt - somehow, someway that isn't being disclosed. Anyone heard anything? SOMETHING is off with Chambers...

[Grizfan7]

"406: Any comment on why Sean didn't play very much in that game or the Idaho game?

TH: No comment. Yeah, I can’t. That’s… yeah, no. Sorry.

406: OK, yeah, that’s fine. I don't expect you necessarily to say much about his upcoming role, but do you think he'll play more?

TH: Yeah, we'll see. I think obviously when those two guys are rolling, as you know, it's a good thing. It's tough, some of that stuff is, when you're moving the ball and you get down there and don't move the ball. That changes things. His role’s been his role, and sometimes the rhythm doesn't work that way. Obviously there are other things in there that are between us as a program. Always want to try to put our best 11 out there.

406: Both (Idaho and UM) games, he came in and there was some procedural stuff or maybe misread too. Again, you don't have to comment, but I'm just curious if you can on if that was part of (his limited playing time), him making mistakes.

TH: It’s a lot of stuff. He's a young kid, and everybody makes mistakes at quarterback. That's not just it. It's probably the rhythm of the game, it's practicing during the week, it's executing during the week and on game day. You look at Senior Night (against Eastern Washington), that was a little bit different with them because we were up so much and there just happened to be plays. It was Senior Night, trying to get him involved on some things that were wide open.

406: Him and Tommy, that was something you guys did a lot last year with them on the field at the same time. I know Tommy got hurt on one of those (plays) in the South Dakota State game. Is that the reason why we haven't seen that as much, or are there other factors that contributed to that?

TH: Yeah, I think injuries obviously are (a factor). We're pretty good at a lot of other spots, and when you're putting both of them in there, you're taking a running back off. Julius (Davis) is pretty good and our other running backs, so I think it's just the way it's worked out this year with the games we've had. We scored a lot of points doing it the way we've done it so far this year."

[BleedingBLue]

I really dislike this tool of coach/person.

"You look at Senior Night (against Eastern Washington), that was a little bit different with them because we were up so much and there just happened to be plays. It was Senior Night, trying to get him involved on some things that were wide open."

That's why they were trying to get him involved? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even if he didn't want to talk about gameplans and his lack of playing time, come up with something better. Dude is absolutely clueless.

[kaner77]

Should have been fried when got dui , after griz and after this interview if given can't or won't give him his walking papers

[Catprint]

I still think Chambers is hurt - somehow, someway that isn't being disclosed. Anyone heard anything? SOMETHING is off with Chambers...

Not much inside information other than a couple of comments on the injuries thread that said people saw Chambers limping around halftime of EWU game. Nonetheless, i think something is amiss. I don't know what but there is no way the First Team "All-Purpose Athlete" should be hardly playing any snaps in the two biggest road games where we lose. I honestly don't know if we will see Chambers much on Saturday except near the goal line. That will be a bummer.