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Re: Indoor facility
I've always been torn about the issue of an indoor facility. On one hand, I can definitely see it in terms of the health and safety of players, as well as the ability to not have a day of practice get canceled or scaled back due to weather. On the other hand, I also see the ability to adapt and acclimate to the weather as a big advantage to a northern team like MSU. When conference opponents like Davis or Poly get off the bus, or when teams from warm weather climates roll into Bozeman for the playoffs, it's a clear advantage to our guys who have practicing in it for weeks. Bill & Mary just quit in that game last year; you could tell they wanted no part of the weather and our guys were ready for it.
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I would assume we'll still practice outside sometimes but the IPF would allow us to practice indoors when we can't go outside. There have been times when practice has been delayed/cancelled because of weather. That wouldn't happen any more.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:30 amI've always been torn about the issue of an indoor facility. On one hand, I can definitely see it in terms of the health and safety of players, as well as the ability to not have a day of practice get canceled or scaled back due to weather. On the other hand, I also see the ability to adapt and acclimate to the weather as a big advantage to a northern team like MSU. When conference opponents like Davis or Poly get off the bus, or when teams from warm weather climates roll into Bozeman for the playoffs, it's a clear advantage to our guys who have practicing in it for weeks. Bill & Mary just quit in that game last year; you could tell they wanted no part of the weather and our guys were ready for it.
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Man, I just saw he wrote football. I was thinking track. My apologies.
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Re: Indoor facility
I hear what you're saying but the players still have to live in the cold weather environment. SDSU has an indoor practice facility and looked better acclimated in the cold weather last year in Brookings in the semi's that the Bobcats did IMO.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:30 amI've always been torn about the issue of an indoor facility. On one hand, I can definitely see it in terms of the health and safety of players, as well as the ability to not have a day of practice get canceled or scaled back due to weather. On the other hand, I also see the ability to adapt and acclimate to the weather as a big advantage to a northern team like MSU. When conference opponents like Davis or Poly get off the bus, or when teams from warm weather climates roll into Bozeman for the playoffs, it's a clear advantage to our guys who have practicing in it for weeks. Bill & Mary just quit in that game last year; you could tell they wanted no part of the weather and our guys were ready for it.
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So how do you explain last years semi final game? SDSU practiced in an indoor facility we practiced outside.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:30 amI've always been torn about the issue of an indoor facility. On one hand, I can definitely see it in terms of the health and safety of players, as well as the ability to not have a day of practice get canceled or scaled back due to weather. On the other hand, I also see the ability to adapt and acclimate to the weather as a big advantage to a northern team like MSU. When conference opponents like Davis or Poly get off the bus, or when teams from warm weather climates roll into Bozeman for the playoffs, it's a clear advantage to our guys who have practicing in it for weeks. Bill & Mary just quit in that game last year; you could tell they wanted no part of the weather and our guys were ready for it.
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Some of the worst weather possible for that game. Definitely affected attendance. And the last state title game in Butte drew over 7,000.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:58 amIn the bleachers (if we do it like the first rendering they put out, don’t know if UM’s has seating I guess). I was in Helena for last years game, there definitely wasn’t 1000 people there.
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Weather was not the issue that caused us to lose that game. We got beat by a team that was head and shoulders clearly the better team. In addition, we lost Chambers on the opening drive, causing us to abandon much of our offensive game plan. And in reality, both our lines were just manhandled by a better SDSU team. I doubt any of our guys are gonna use the weather as an excuse for that loss. We played great the week before in Bozeman in weather that was nearly as bad.gtapp wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:36 pmSo how do you explain last years semi final game? SDSU practiced in an indoor facility we practiced outside.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:30 amI've always been torn about the issue of an indoor facility. On one hand, I can definitely see it in terms of the health and safety of players, as well as the ability to not have a day of practice get canceled or scaled back due to weather. On the other hand, I also see the ability to adapt and acclimate to the weather as a big advantage to a northern team like MSU. When conference opponents like Davis or Poly get off the bus, or when teams from warm weather climates roll into Bozeman for the playoffs, it's a clear advantage to our guys who have practicing in it for weeks. Bill & Mary just quit in that game last year; you could tell they wanted no part of the weather and our guys were ready for it.
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Weather was as bad, field wasn't. We were dominated by lines, but slicker conditions didn't help us either. Both things can be true. Would we have won, probably not but would have beenmuch more competetiveCamo_Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:25 pmWeather was not the issue that caused us to lose that game. We got beat by a team that was head and shoulders clearly the better team. In addition, we lost Chambers on the opening drive, causing us to abandon much of our offensive game plan. And in reality, both our lines were just manhandled by a better SDSU team. I doubt any of our guys are gonna use the weather as an excuse for that loss. We played great the week before in Bozeman in weather that was nearly as bad.gtapp wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:36 pmSo how do you explain last years semi final game? SDSU practiced in an indoor facility we practiced outside.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:30 amI've always been torn about the issue of an indoor facility. On one hand, I can definitely see it in terms of the health and safety of players, as well as the ability to not have a day of practice get canceled or scaled back due to weather. On the other hand, I also see the ability to adapt and acclimate to the weather as a big advantage to a northern team like MSU. When conference opponents like Davis or Poly get off the bus, or when teams from warm weather climates roll into Bozeman for the playoffs, it's a clear advantage to our guys who have practicing in it for weeks. Bill & Mary just quit in that game last year; you could tell they wanted no part of the weather and our guys were ready for it.
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Maybe not from ticket sales, but the Track team has some donors with deep pockets.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:56 pmI love track and field, but has it ever been a revenue gainer? Like…at least football makes money. It’s hard for me to justify spending that much more money for sports that don’t generate anything, but instead cost.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:48 pm300m, looks like a matching fund ish type scenario. If it can be raised the facility will be more than just a football complex. Something I hope a lot of people can get on board with.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:17 pmfull size indoor track would be a huge deal to get competitive with NAU.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:44 pmAFCAT wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:59 pmLast I heard, they are completing the financing and construction should begin this Spring with completion happening near Cat-gris. Now, they’ve given out rosy timelines in the past, so I’m taking it all with a grain of salt.110010110 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:34 pmAs the team prepares for what is probably the biggest game of the conference schedule in a windy, 20°f snowstorm I cant help but think "You know what they could really use right now.... an indoor practice facility"
Do we have a time table on it yet? Last I heard they were still considering how big to make it (to include indoor track or not)
All I’m going to say is I got an interesting email from the track program that it’s not entirely decided yet on the facility
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Looking at the big picture I think track brings way more positives to the university than their revenue alone shows.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:38 pmMaybe not from ticket sales, but the Track team has some donors with deep pockets.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:56 pmI love track and field, but has it ever been a revenue gainer? Like…at least football makes money. It’s hard for me to justify spending that much more money for sports that don’t generate anything, but instead cost.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:48 pm300m, looks like a matching fund ish type scenario. If it can be raised the facility will be more than just a football complex. Something I hope a lot of people can get on board with.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:17 pmfull size indoor track would be a huge deal to get competitive with NAU.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:44 pmAFCAT wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:59 pmLast I heard, they are completing the financing and construction should begin this Spring with completion happening near Cat-gris. Now, they’ve given out rosy timelines in the past, so I’m taking it all with a grain of salt.110010110 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:34 pmAs the team prepares for what is probably the biggest game of the conference schedule in a windy, 20°f snowstorm I cant help but think "You know what they could really use right now.... an indoor practice facility"
Do we have a time table on it yet? Last I heard they were still considering how big to make it (to include indoor track or not)
All I’m going to say is I got an interesting email from the track program that it’s not entirely decided yet on the facility
The indoor practice facility with an oval track will benefit more than just the university track team. We'll always regret it if we don't try very hard to make the oval track happen.
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Joe Bobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:53 pmLooking at the big picture I think track brings way more positives to the university than their revenue alone shows.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:38 pmMaybe not from ticket sales, but the Track team has some donors with deep pockets.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:56 pmI love track and field, but has it ever been a revenue gainer? Like…at least football makes money. It’s hard for me to justify spending that much more money for sports that don’t generate anything, but instead cost.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:48 pm300m, looks like a matching fund ish type scenario. If it can be raised the facility will be more than just a football complex. Something I hope a lot of people can get on board with.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:17 pmfull size indoor track would be a huge deal to get competitive with NAU.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:44 pmAFCAT wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:59 pmLast I heard, they are completing the financing and construction should begin this Spring with completion happening near Cat-gris. Now, they’ve given out rosy timelines in the past, so I’m taking it all with a grain of salt.110010110 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:34 pmAs the team prepares for what is probably the biggest game of the conference schedule in a windy, 20°f snowstorm I cant help but think "You know what they could really use right now.... an indoor practice facility"
Do we have a time table on it yet? Last I heard they were still considering how big to make it (to include indoor track or not)
All I’m going to say is I got an interesting email from the track program that it’s not entirely decided yet on the facility
The indoor practice facility with an oval track will benefit more than just the university track team. We'll always regret it if we don't try very hard to make the oval track happen.

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Re: Indoor facility
When the details come out for the IPF, I expect to see a state of the art atmospheric ventilation system. We have another season in Montana, and that is the wildfire season. You cannot do a thing about that when you play in an outdoor stadium, but to be able to practice indoors when those extreme smoke conditions hit will be beneficial on many levels.
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If we had to wait for football to generate enough money for improvements like the BAC and indoor practice facility, then we’d be waiting a long time. Most of the money is donated and not from football related revenue.
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Are they doing enough to raise funds? I for one have not heard anyway to contribute. $20 million is not that much in the grand scheme of things.
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You can contribute by calling up the Alumni foundation. It’s been mentioned a few times before, but they are in the silent phase, getting the big money donations. The public phase will probably start soon. Phone numbers at the bottom of the linked page. You can also send a message via their facilities plan site. If you have a $20 million to donate, then they may name it after you.ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:26 pmAre they doing enough to raise funds? I for one have not heard anyway to contribute. $20 million is not that much in the grand scheme of things.

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Great, thanks for the info! I definitely don’t have 20 million to contribute but I will be contributing. I get looking for the big money donations but IMO the public phase should have started at years ago…AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:39 pmYou can contribute by calling up the Alumni foundation. It’s been mentioned a few times before, but they are in the silent phase, getting the big money donations. The public phase will probably start soon. Phone numbers at the bottom of the linked page. You can also send a message via their facilities plan site. If you have a $20 million to donate, then they may name it after you.ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:26 pmAre they doing enough to raise funds? I for one have not heard anyway to contribute. $20 million is not that much in the grand scheme of things.![]()
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You can make donations to the athletic facilities plan anytime you want to. I used to make donations monthly when they started the BAC.ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 pmGreat, thanks for the info! I definitely don’t have 20 million to contribute but I will be contributing. I get looking for the big money donations but IMO the public phase should have started at years ago…AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:39 pmYou can contribute by calling up the Alumni foundation. It’s been mentioned a few times before, but they are in the silent phase, getting the big money donations. The public phase will probably start soon. Phone numbers at the bottom of the linked page. You can also send a message via their facilities plan site. If you have a $20 million to donate, then they may name it after you.ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:26 pmAre they doing enough to raise funds? I for one have not heard anyway to contribute. $20 million is not that much in the grand scheme of things.![]()
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They’re actually in the homestretch right now. Guess is we’ll hear an official announcement during the playoffs if all goes well. Goal is to have it usable next year around this time, hopefully before the snow flies.ThoughtUKnew14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:26 pmAre they doing enough to raise funds? I for one have not heard anyway to contribute. $20 million is not that much in the grand scheme of things.