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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by GoCats18 » Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:18 pm

The NCAA person that oversees and handles all this for the State of Montana is a huge Griz donor and being paid under the table. Just kidding, but this absolutely sucks.


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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by BgCATfan » Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 pm

HelenaCat95 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:30 pm
What's the difference between these players?
https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... r-jr-/6066
Montana State (2023) Transferred to Montana State in January.

Washington (2022) Played in 11 games for Washington in 2022, catching one pass (vs. Portland State) for nine yards.

Arizona State (2021) Played in two games at Arizona State in 2021 without stats.

https://gogriz.com/sports/football/rost ... idlak/6845
2023 (Montana - R-So.): Transferred to Montana from BSU in time for winter conditioning… Expected to compete for a starting position with three years of eligibility remaining... Impressed in the spring game going 11-15-0 for 152 yards and two TDs.

2022 (Boise St. - R-Fr.): Played in three games for the Broncos... Completed 9-of-12 passes (75%) for 86 yards in a win over San Diego State, with a long pass of 53 yards... Also attempted a pass in wins over Colorado State and at Nevada… Helped lead BSU to a win in the Frisco Bowl.

2021 (Oregon St. - Fr.): Appeared in one game for the Beavers as a true freshman, playing 12 snaps and completing 2-of-3 passes for eight yards… Was a redshirt.
I was wondering that as well



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by SparkCat » Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:33 pm

BgCATfan wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 pm
HelenaCat95 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:30 pm
What's the difference between these players?
https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... r-jr-/6066
Montana State (2023) Transferred to Montana State in January.

Washington (2022) Played in 11 games for Washington in 2022, catching one pass (vs. Portland State) for nine yards.

Arizona State (2021) Played in two games at Arizona State in 2021 without stats.

https://gogriz.com/sports/football/rost ... idlak/6845
2023 (Montana - R-So.): Transferred to Montana from BSU in time for winter conditioning… Expected to compete for a starting position with three years of eligibility remaining... Impressed in the spring game going 11-15-0 for 152 yards and two TDs.

2022 (Boise St. - R-Fr.): Played in three games for the Broncos... Completed 9-of-12 passes (75%) for 86 yards in a win over San Diego State, with a long pass of 53 yards... Also attempted a pass in wins over Colorado State and at Nevada… Helped lead BSU to a win in the Frisco Bowl.

2021 (Oregon St. - Fr.): Appeared in one game for the Beavers as a true freshman, playing 12 snaps and completing 2-of-3 passes for eight yards… Was a redshirt.
I was wondering that as well

Probably a dumb answer/thought but if you can transfer without penalty to better change life / health, would a doctor note say for mental health be a health or even possibly change of life? Maybe Vidlak had a legitimate reason to transfer or was coached on what boxes to check and phrases to say.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:14 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:33 pm
BgCATfan wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 pm
HelenaCat95 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:30 pm
What's the difference between these players?
https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... r-jr-/6066
Montana State (2023) Transferred to Montana State in January.

Washington (2022) Played in 11 games for Washington in 2022, catching one pass (vs. Portland State) for nine yards.

Arizona State (2021) Played in two games at Arizona State in 2021 without stats.

https://gogriz.com/sports/football/rost ... idlak/6845
2023 (Montana - R-So.): Transferred to Montana from BSU in time for winter conditioning… Expected to compete for a starting position with three years of eligibility remaining... Impressed in the spring game going 11-15-0 for 152 yards and two TDs.

2022 (Boise St. - R-Fr.): Played in three games for the Broncos... Completed 9-of-12 passes (75%) for 86 yards in a win over San Diego State, with a long pass of 53 yards... Also attempted a pass in wins over Colorado State and at Nevada… Helped lead BSU to a win in the Frisco Bowl.

2021 (Oregon St. - Fr.): Appeared in one game for the Beavers as a true freshman, playing 12 snaps and completing 2-of-3 passes for eight yards… Was a redshirt.
I was wondering that as well

Probably a dumb answer/thought but if you can transfer without penalty to better change life / health, would a doctor note say for mental health be a health or even possibly change of life? Maybe Vidlak had a legitimate reason to transfer or was coached on what boxes to check and phrases to say.
I believe the WR from UNC transferred to be closer to his sick mom and they still denied him.

The problem with the NCAA is they have no consistency and they answer to nobody. At least put something out explaining the why. They’re such a joke.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by ThoughtUKnew14 » Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:45 pm

AFCAT wrote:
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It’s certainly amazing. Isaiah can transfer to San Jose State and go through Spring ball, then decide to transfer again to Cal a few weeks later and play with no problem.
Ifanse was a Grad Transfer.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:46 pm

ThoughtUKnew14 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:45 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:00 pm
It’s certainly amazing. Isaiah can transfer to San Jose State and go through Spring ball, then decide to transfer again to Cal a few weeks later and play with no problem.
Ifanse was a Grad Transfer.
I don't think the initial transfer is the question with Ifanse, but the second transfer from SJSU to Cal after he had enrolled in classes and participated in Spring Practice at San Jose.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by GoldstoneCat » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am

Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by Bobcat Sig » Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:42 pm

The NCAA is a joke. That is the issue here.


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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by catatac » Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:48 pm

Bobcat Sig wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:42 pm
The NCAA is a joke. That is the issue here.
Yep. If I were Lonyatta, I'd find a really good lawyer and file a lawsuit against the NCAA right now.

They're costing him NIL money.


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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by nanacat » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:59 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?
Vigen said Jr. was "thriving" both on the field and academically. He referenced where Jr. had come from and and touched on the fact there was some bad juju. So hopefully he'll stay and continue to thrive.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by BgCATfan » Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:40 pm

nanacat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:59 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?
Vigen said Jr. was "thriving" both on the field and academically. He referenced where Jr. had come from and and touched on the fact there was some bad juju. So hopefully he'll stay and continue to thrive.
That sounds like that is something that should’ve made the waiver approvable.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by nanacat » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:07 pm

BgCATfan wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:40 pm
nanacat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:59 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?
Vigen said Jr. was "thriving" both on the field and academically. He referenced where Jr. had come from and and touched on the fact there was some bad juju. So hopefully he'll stay and continue to thrive.
That sounds like that is something that should’ve made the waiver approvable.
Agree



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by BobDals » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:40 am

The kid is hurting, but he is commited and focused to give Bobcats fans what they want.
I agree with it beening done A WHILE ago. But they(NCAA) yoyo'd the kid for truely for 9 months. Asking for more and more info. Only to tell him Monday that he'd been denied.
But he stated that it was a 50-50 shot that they'd let him play. Short story, he was torn, hurt and now he's looking forward to the scheduled workouts for him back home every other wknd to stay sharp and ready. So I guess stay tuned. He will not disappoint



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by catatac » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:56 am

BobDals wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:40 am
The kid is hurting, but he is commited and focused to give Bobcats fans what they want.
I agree with it beening done A WHILE ago. But they(NCAA) yoyo'd the kid for truely for 9 months. Asking for more and more info. Only to tell him Monday that he'd been denied.
But he stated that it was a 50-50 shot that they'd let him play. Short story, he was torn, hurt and now he's looking forward to the scheduled workouts for him back home every other wknd to stay sharp and ready. So I guess stay tuned. He will not disappoint
I'll repeat myself, and yes I'm mainly venting because I'm tired of all the crap the NCAA pulls because of all the power they have... maybe they need to get another lawsuit filed against them. I guarantee an excellent attorney would find instances where players were allowed the waiver in the same circumstance. So inconsistency there is not legal, and they need to be held accountable.


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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by Cataholic » Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:14 am

catatac wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:56 am
BobDals wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:40 am
The kid is hurting, but he is commited and focused to give Bobcats fans what they want.
I agree with it beening done A WHILE ago. But they(NCAA) yoyo'd the kid for truely for 9 months. Asking for more and more info. Only to tell him Monday that he'd been denied.
But he stated that it was a 50-50 shot that they'd let him play. Short story, he was torn, hurt and now he's looking forward to the scheduled workouts for him back home every other wknd to stay sharp and ready. So I guess stay tuned. He will not disappoint
I'll repeat myself, and yes I'm mainly venting because I'm tired of all the crap the NCAA pulls because of all the power they have... maybe they need to get another lawsuit filed against them. I guarantee an excellent attorney would find instances where players were allowed the waiver in the same circumstance. So inconsistency there is not legal, and they need to be held accountable.
Unfortunately, a law suit will not benefit Lonyatta, but maybe benefit future kids. It just takes too long.

I would bet though that a formal inquiry to the NCAA from one of our US Senators or Congressman would get them to re-evaluate.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by BobDals » Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:00 pm

nanacat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:59 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?
Vigen said Jr. was "thriving" both on the field and academically. He referenced where Jr. had come from and and touched on the fact there was some bad juju. So hopefully he'll stay and continue to thrive.
I was unaware of him having bad juju.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by AFCAT » Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:25 pm

BobDals wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:00 pm
nanacat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:59 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?
Vigen said Jr. was "thriving" both on the field and academically. He referenced where Jr. had come from and and touched on the fact there was some bad juju. So hopefully he'll stay and continue to thrive.
I was unaware of him having bad juju.
I believe she is referring to his former football programs in AZ and WA, not Jr. himself or his personal life.


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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by nanacat » Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:20 pm

BobDals wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:00 pm
nanacat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:59 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
Sucks for this year. But assuming he stays in the program he'll be a hell of a player here for us after he sits out a year. Wonder if needs will change and he'll get moved back outside?
Vigen said Jr. was "thriving" both on the field and academically. He referenced where Jr. had come from and and touched on the fact there was some bad juju. So hopefully he'll stay and continue to thrive.
I was unaware of him having bad juju.
He doesn't. Coach indicated he had been through some negative experiences at his other schools. I was too lazy to type that the first time so choose 'bad juju'. Sorry for the confusion.



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Re: Lonyatta Alexander Jr.

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:50 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:02 pm
Mr. @TomCat88, could you and @Colter_Nuanez put your collective skills together and produce a nice piece of investigative journalism as to why Vidlak plays and Alexander Jr. sits? There must be an interesting story hidden from view there. Thank you, gentlemen.



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