Housewright cited for aggravated DUI

[cat4lyf]

Guys there are bigger issues here than the team or school policy. Housewright is possibly an alcoholic. I have seen him on several occasions black-out drunk. Now I don't know if he has the disease or not for certain but he possibly could based on what I have seen. He needs our prayers tonight.

[Cledus]

Justin Udy...come on down!

Being a big Choate fan, I was really looking forward to seeing what he brings. I was relieved when he was retained by Vigen and didn’t immediately start looking around for someplace new. Hate to see it shake out like this, but I hope you’re right and he gets his shot.

[AFCAT]

Guys there are bigger issues here than the team or school policy. Housewright is possibly an alcoholic. I have seen him on several occasions black-out drunk. Now I don't know if he has the disease or not for certain but he possibly could based on what I have seen. He needs our prayers tonight.

This you, Troll?

https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 11#p813411

[PapaG]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

I mean this isn't exactly Penn State. Its college assistance coaches at the FCS level getting cited for DUIs. Is it bad? Yes. Should Vigen hold his coaches to a higher standard by making them suffer the consequences? Yes. Should Vigen be let go? No.

With Garza’s most recent DUI I was shocked when he wasn’t let go immediately but understood the legal process needed to play out. In my opinion he should have been let go by the University immediately once the legal end was finalized (if it has been). I’ve truly enjoyed Housewright and what he’s brought to MSU football the past few years. He made a mistake, a stupid one, and we’ve all made them and moved on. But, two coaches with DUI’s in 6 months? It’s absolutely unacceptable for this to be swept under the rug and I truly hope that Coach Vigen addresses this publicly somehow. The players and fans deserve that in my opinion.I’m as big of an MSU football fan and supporter as you’ll meet, but what kind of message is being sent here?!? Seriously, say what you want, but I put this at Vigens feet. These actions may not be his doing, but they could definitely be his un-doing! Vigen is ultimately responsible for setting the tone of the football program, how he approaches this situation could ultimately break him. The optics on this are terrible for MSU and the scrutiny that will be closely following is going to be deserved.

I’ve talked to one player’s dad tonight and also have a few nephews looking at MSU. We’re a great academic school but I’m waiting to see what Vigen does.

[84CatGrad]

I was not happy with the Garza 1-game suspension and will not be happy if this is addressed in similar fashion. A team sport is all about discipline and following of rules. The penalty here has to be severe. I don't see how anything less than firing Housewright is the right answer.

[cat4lyf]

Guys there are bigger issues here than the team or school policy. Housewright is possibly an alcoholic. I have seen him on several occasions black-out drunk. Now I don't know if he has the disease or not for certain but he possibly could based on what I have seen. He needs our prayers tonight.

This you, Troll?

https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 11#p813411

If supporting the team and singing praises of the team and staff makes me a troll.... Then yes, I am a troll by your definition. And you are correct. I started the Housewright appreciation thread. I love this team and appreciate the efforts of coach H. He is quite possibly battling a disease right now. I will focus on praying for him.

[MSU01]

I think that Housewright and Garza (has his case been resolved yet?) should in fact be fired if they are found guilty of DUI. However, I also think that a knee-jerk reaction of an immediate termination isn't a wise move, and that they should be given the same opportunity that any of the rest of us would want to be able to go through the legal process to be able to tell our sides of the story and potentially be cleared of the charges.

It does seem like Coach Vigen needs to come out and make a very strong public statement about his expectations for the people associated with his program.

P.S. When will people around here learn to stop feeding the trolls?

[bobcatfan15]

Guys there are bigger issues here than the team or school policy. Housewright is possibly an alcoholic. I have seen him on several occasions black-out drunk. Now I don't know if he has the disease or not for certain but he possibly could based on what I have seen. He needs our prayers tonight.

This is a pretty bold assessment based off of a few speculative occurrences you have seen.
Secondly, you can’t battle an addiction without admitting you have a problem. If he doesn’t, he needs to make better choices.

[RICO CAT]

For those wondering, 61-8-1001(1), MCA, defines aggravated DUI as follows:

(1) "Aggravated driving under the influence" means a person is in violation of 61-8-1002(1)(a) [drugs and/or alcohol impairment DUI], (1)(b) [alcohol DUI per se], (1)(c) [alcohol commercial vehicle DUI per se], or (1)(d) [marijuana DUI per se] and:

(a) the person's alcohol concentration, as shown by analysis of the person's blood, breath, or other bodily substance, is 0.16 or more;

(b) the person is under the order of a court or the department to equip any motor vehicle the person operates with an approved ignition interlock device;

(c) the person's driver's license or privilege to drive is suspended, cancelled, or revoked as a result of a prior violation of driving under the influence, including a violation of 61-8-1002(1)(a), (1)(b), (1)(c), or (1)(d), an offense that meets the definition of aggravated driving under the influence, or a similar offense under previous laws of this state or the laws of another state; or

(d) the person refuses to give a breath sample as required in 61-8-1016 and the person's driver's license or privilege to drive was suspended, cancelled, or revoked under the provisions of an implied consent statute.

I don’t know about Montana, but in many states there is an ‘express consent’ that you will take a blood or breath test if suspected of DUI. If you refuse, your license is suspended for a year, however there is no additional criminal charge for the refusal.

[Rich K]

Guys there are bigger issues here than the team or school policy. Housewright is possibly an alcoholic. I have seen him on several occasions black-out drunk. Now I don't know if he has the disease or not for certain but he possibly could based on what I have seen. He needs our prayers tonight.

What's amazing is that you remember seeing him while you were blacked out.

[SparkCat]

For those wondering, 61-8-1001(1), MCA, defines aggravated DUI as follows:

(1) "Aggravated driving under the influence" means a person is in violation of 61-8-1002(1)(a) [drugs and/or alcohol impairment DUI], (1)(b) [alcohol DUI per se], (1)(c) [alcohol commercial vehicle DUI per se], or (1)(d) [marijuana DUI per se] and:

(a) the person's alcohol concentration, as shown by analysis of the person's blood, breath, or other bodily substance, is 0.16 or more;

(b) the person is under the order of a court or the department to equip any motor vehicle the person operates with an approved ignition interlock device;

(c) the person's driver's license or privilege to drive is suspended, cancelled, or revoked as a result of a prior violation of driving under the influence, including a violation of 61-8-1002(1)(a), (1)(b), (1)(c), or (1)(d), an offense that meets the definition of aggravated driving under the influence, or a similar offense under previous laws of this state or the laws of another state; or

(d) the person refuses to give a breath sample as required in 61-8-1016 and the person's driver's license or privilege to drive was suspended, cancelled, or revoked under the provisions of an implied consent statute.

I don’t know about Montana, but in many states there is an ‘express consent’ that you will take a blood or breath test if suspected of DUI. If you refuse, your license is suspended for a year, however there is no additional criminal charge for the refusal.

Can only take blood in Montana through a warrant. Driver must have a prior DUI to apply for the warrant or serious injuries or a death involved. Of course they can voluntarily give consent for a blood draw as well.

[AFCAT]

Guys there are bigger issues here than the team or school policy. Housewright is possibly an alcoholic. I have seen him on several occasions black-out drunk. Now I don't know if he has the disease or not for certain but he possibly could based on what I have seen. He needs our prayers tonight.

This you, Troll?

https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 11#p813411

If supporting the team and singing praises of the team and staff makes me a troll.... Then yes, I am a troll by your definition. And you are correct. I started the Housewright appreciation thread. I love this team and appreciate the efforts of coach H. He is quite possibly battling a disease right now. I will focus on praying for him.

Is there any member of the coaching staff or team you haven’t had a conversation with?

[tetoncat]

I think that Housewright and Garza (has his case been resolved yet?) should in fact be fired if they are found guilty of DUI. However, I also think that a knee-jerk reaction of an immediate termination isn't a wise move, and that they should be given the same opportunity that any of the rest of us would want, to be able to go through the legal process to be able to tell our sides of the story and potentially be cleared of the charges.

It does seem like Coach Vigen needs to come out and make a very strong public statement about his expectations for the people associated with his program.

P.S. When will people around here learn to stop feeding the trolls?

I agree on need to wait for outcomes instead of rushing to fire. But, I also don't think firing is the only option. MSU actively promotes drinking at fundraisers and it is a big part of game day with many on here pushing for in stadium sales. They made mistakes, but guarantee many on here have done the same but not gotten caught. Housewright's wreck makes it more severe, but unpaid suspension would be sufficient in my opinion.

[catatac]

I think that Housewright and Garza (has his case been resolved yet?) should in fact be fired if they are found guilty of DUI. However, I also think that a knee-jerk reaction of an immediate termination isn't a wise move, and that they should be given the same opportunity that any of the rest of us would want, to be able to go through the legal process to be able to tell our sides of the story and potentially be cleared of the charges.

It does seem like Coach Vigen needs to come out and make a very strong public statement about his expectations for the people associated with his program.

P.S. When will people around here learn to stop feeding the trolls?

I agree on need to wait for outcomes instead of rushing to fire. But, I also don't think firing is the only option. MSU actively promotes drinking at fundraisers and it is a big part of game day with many on here pushing for in stadium sales. They made mistakes, but guarantee many on here have done the same but not gotten caught. Housewright's wreck makes it more severe, but unpaid suspension would be sufficient in my opinion.

100 percent agree with MSU01 here, pretty crazy how quick people make assumptions and jump to conclusions here. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a “lawyer up and beat the charges”, and all is good here guy. But, I don’t think the school even can fire him until there’s a legal ruling. Same with WMG, and many of us are wondering if there was a conviction there or not yet? Agree though, this seems to be a problem and Vigen needs to address it one way or the other.

[MTnative]

I have seen Housewright over-served on occasion but I did not want to raise the flag with MSU staff. Wish I would have. What Coach House needs from us is our support. Housewright is a great man when he is not binge drinking and putting members of our community in danger. Good luck Coach House.... You will be my families prayers tonight.

You'd better shutup before you get into real legal trouble by spewing this kind of trash on the internet.

[MSU01]

If we're the program we claim to be, Vigen must take action. Period.

Reported as fake account. Nice try.

[cat4lyf]

I have seen Housewright over-served on occasion but I did not want to raise the flag with MSU staff. Wish I would have. What Coach House needs from us is our support. Housewright is a great man when he is not binge drinking and putting members of our community in danger. Good luck Coach House.... You will be my families prayers tonight.

You'd better shutup before you get into real legal trouble by spewing this kind of trash on the internet.

Sorry friend. I'm not going to get into any legal trouble for supporting coach House and praying for him.

[GoCats18]

Wonder if the University will provide his new set of wheels…

[BigBruceBaker]

Such a bad choice. Especially when Garza just got one.

Unfortunately Vigen/Costello/Cruzado didn’t handle Garza well, which makes handling the House situation even more difficult.

Really crappy position to be put in as a leader and a university. One I hope they learn from.

Vigen and Costello MUST come out strong on this.

[RICO CAT]

Wonder if the University will provide his new set of wheels…

I’ve been told people in Germany have two bikes; a nice one and one used when going out drinking.