Housewright cited for aggravated DUI

[Camo_Cat]

Jeezus H. Christ...I was all for letting WMG go when he got busted. I still don't believe he should still be on the staff. But this is beyond phucking ridiculous. Not sure exactly what aggravated DUI means, but it can't be good. If he is indeed guilty, he needs to gone ASAP. I'm all for letting WMG take a hike too.

[Hawks86]

I see a new DC and OC in the near future.

[ECBobcat]

For those wondering, 61-8-1001(1), MCA, defines aggravated DUI as follows:

(1) "Aggravated driving under the influence" means a person is in violation of 61-8-1002(1)(a) [drugs and/or alcohol impairment DUI], (1)(b) [alcohol DUI per se], (1)(c) [alcohol commercial vehicle DUI per se], or (1)(d) [marijuana DUI per se] and:

(a) the person's alcohol concentration, as shown by analysis of the person's blood, breath, or other bodily substance, is 0.16 or more;

(b) the person is under the order of a court or the department to equip any motor vehicle the person operates with an approved ignition interlock device;

(c) the person's driver's license or privilege to drive is suspended, cancelled, or revoked as a result of a prior violation of driving under the influence, including a violation of 61-8-1002(1)(a), (1)(b), (1)(c), or (1)(d), an offense that meets the definition of aggravated driving under the influence, or a similar offense under previous laws of this state or the laws of another state; or

(d) the person refuses to give a breath sample as required in 61-8-1016 and the person's driver's license or privilege to drive was suspended, cancelled, or revoked under the provisions of an implied consent statute.

[CodyCat]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

[VimSince03]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

I mean this isn't exactly Penn State. Its college assistance coaches at the FCS level getting cited for DUIs. Is it bad? Yes. Should Vigen hold his coaches to a higher standard by making them suffer the consequences? Yes. Should Vigen be let go? No.

[CodyCat]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

I mean this isn't exactly Penn State. Its college assistance coaches at the FCS level getting cited for DUIs. Is it bad? Yes. Should Vigen hold his coaches to a higher standard by making them suffer the consequences? Yes. Should Vigen be let go? No.

I don't disagree with you at all. But, we live in a strange world. Its not out of the realm of possibilities and even reasonable possibilities.

[MountainCat]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

I mean this isn't exactly Penn State. Its college assistance coaches at the FCS level getting cited for DUIs. Is it bad? Yes. Should Vigen hold his coaches to a higher standard by making them suffer the consequences? Yes. Should Vigen be let go? No.

With Garza’s most recent DUI I was shocked when he wasn’t let go immediately but understood the legal process needed to play out. In my opinion he should have been let go by the University immediately once the legal end was finalized (if it has been). I’ve truly enjoyed Housewright and what he’s brought to MSU football the past few years. He made a mistake, a stupid one, and we’ve all made them and moved on. But, two coaches with DUI’s in 6 months? It’s absolutely unacceptable for this to be swept under the rug and I truly hope that Coach Vigen addresses this publicly somehow. The players and fans deserve that in my opinion.I’m as big of an MSU football fan and supporter as you’ll meet, but what kind of message is being sent here?!? Seriously, say what you want, but I put this at Vigens feet. These actions may not be his doing, but they could definitely be his un-doing! Vigen is ultimately responsible for setting the tone of the football program, how he approaches this situation could ultimately break him. The optics on this are terrible for MSU and the scrutiny that will be closely following is going to be deserved.

[CodyCat]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

I mean this isn't exactly Penn State. Its college assistance coaches at the FCS level getting cited for DUIs. Is it bad? Yes. Should Vigen hold his coaches to a higher standard by making them suffer the consequences? Yes. Should Vigen be let go? No.

With Garza’s most recent DUI I was shocked when he wasn’t let go immediately but understood the legal process needed to play out. In my opinion he should have been let go by the University immediately once the legal end was finalized (if it has been). I’ve truly enjoyed Housewright and what he’s brought to MSU football the past few years. He made a mistake, a stupid one, and we’ve all made them and moved on. But, two coaches with DUI’s in 6 months? It’s absolutely unacceptable for this to be swept under the rug and I truly hope that Coach Vigen addresses this publicly somehow. The players and fans deserve that in my opinion.I’m as big of an MSU football fan and supporter as you’ll meet, but what kind of message is being sent here?!? Seriously, say what you want, but I put this at Vigens feet. These actions may not be his doing, but they could definitely be his un-doing! Vigen is ultimately responsible for setting the tone of the football program, how he approaches this situation could ultimately break him. The optics on this are terrible for MSU and the scrutiny that will be closely following is going to be deserved.

[coloradocat]

Garza got a one game suspension (as a repeat offender). I imagine that's what Housewright will get. It has to be hard to determine an appropriate punishment, short of termination, that doesn't hurt the team more than the coach.

[Cataholic]

Well WMG came here with a history and got another DUI charge and kept his job. This is Housewright's first but he crashed his car and caused property damage. Does that just count as one strike or two?

I don’t like even bringing this up but is there a cultural problem of boozing with the staff? It kind of starts at the top and I’ve always thought not firing WMG was a mistake by MSU.

This has happened with most/all MSU football staffs. I think it's more likely that there isn't enough to do in Bozeman.

This is a cop-out. Tens of thousands of people find a way to be responsible every weekend in Bozeman. If you are going to drink, be responsible.

[coloradocat]

Well WMG came here with a history and got another DUI charge and kept his job. This is Housewright's first but he crashed his car and caused property damage. Does that just count as one strike or two?

I don’t like even bringing this up but is there a cultural problem of boozing with the staff? It kind of starts at the top and I’ve always thought not firing WMG was a mistake by MSU.

This has happened with most/all MSU football staffs. I think it's more likely that there isn't enough to do in Bozeman.

This is a cop-out. Tens of thousands of people find a way to be responsible every weekend in Bozeman. If you are going to drink, be responsible.

I was responding to the suggestion that it may be a cultural problem with this staff. You're not wrong that most people don't get DUIs but history shows that there isn't necessarily a simple solution.

[tetoncat]

This could easily be the beginning of the end for Vigen. Thats just the world we live in.

I mean this isn't exactly Penn State. Its college assistance coaches at the FCS level getting cited for DUIs. Is it bad? Yes. Should Vigen hold his coaches to a higher standard by making them suffer the consequences? Yes. Should Vigen be let go? No.

With Garza’s most recent DUI I was shocked when he wasn’t let go immediately but understood the legal process needed to play out. In my opinion he should have been let go by the University immediately once the legal end was finalized (if it has been). I’ve truly enjoyed Housewright and what he’s brought to MSU football the past few years. He made a mistake, a stupid one, and we’ve all made them and moved on. But, two coaches with DUI’s in 6 months? It’s absolutely unacceptable for this to be swept under the rug and I truly hope that Coach Vigen addresses this publicly somehow. The players and fans deserve that in my opinion.I’m as big of an MSU football fan and supporter as you’ll meet, but what kind of message is being sent here?!? Seriously, say what you want, but I put this at Vigens feet. These actions may not be his doing, but they could definitely be his un-doing! Vigen is ultimately responsible for setting the tone of the football program, how he approaches this situation could ultimately break him. The optics on this are terrible for MSU and the scrutiny that will be closely following is going to be deserved.

Do all public employees deserve to lose their job for a DUI. Professors, the custodian staff, etc. My guess is they have to treat these coaches the same as they would others on campus. They are more in the public eye, but still under a contract.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Garza got a one game suspension (as a repeat offender). I imagine that's what Housewright will get. It has to be hard to determine an appropriate punishment, short of termination, that doesn't hurt the team more than the coach.

Garza wasn’t driving a school vehicle. Garza didn’t “allegedly” crash a vehicle. Garza didn’t “allegedly” leave the scene of an accident.

I 100% believed that Garza should have been fired. Still do. I will be incredibly disappointed if Housewright isn’t fired. He seems like a great coach, but enough is enough. It’s not that difficult to not drink and drive. It’s beyond ridiculous at this point.

[CelticCat]

Fun that we are comparing which DUI was worse between our coordinators.

[imacat]

I worked for a major energy company. Corporate policy on DUIs was crystal clear. If you were convicted you were out. No exceptions.

[GoldstoneCat]

Fun that we are comparing which DUI was worse between our coordinators.

So fun. I'm as big a Vigen fan as anyone but he needs to do a better job both addressing this and assuring that it will stop happening. He's got a ton of credibility here and benefit of the doubt but the reservoir is not bottomless.

[Cat4LifeHouseDivided]

Yikes. Both coordinators now charged with DUI within 6 months of each other...

If he crashed and fled, he has to be out, right?

You would think so. Aggravated DUI is a felony in most states.

Seeing it was a school issued vehicle that was wrecked. That certainly compounds things... I'd say sayonara House!

School issued? Where did you read that? I know some coaches and players get vehicles from local dealerships.

I knew Vigen has one in his contract but never really thought about if the other coaches got a vehicle.

I know the university used to have a fleet of vehicles back when I went there. I drove a couple of the vans and trucks for different projects. I never heard of a coach getting a school issued vehicle. I have heard that the local dealerships will loan coaches a free car or truck though.

This was in the early 1990s but I worked for the MSU ground maintenance crew for a few summers and drove a few fleet vehicles around Bozeman.

Got completely vetted then to be able to drive one.

The story from Robbie's source sounds legit. I once had a company issued car towed on a Saturday for parking in a tow away zone. I had to wait until the following Monday to get notarized letters from the leasing company and my company, before the impound would let me get the car out.

Legit...with a word like envolded.....

[ND0479]

Yikes. Both coordinators now charged with DUI within 6 months of each other...

If he crashed and fled, he has to be out, right?

You would think so. Aggravated DUI is a felony in most states.

Seeing it was a school issued vehicle that was wrecked. That certainly compounds things... I'd say sayonara House!

School issued? Where did you read that? I know some coaches and players get vehicles from local dealerships.

I knew Vigen has one in his contract but never really thought about if the other coaches got a vehicle.

I know the university used to have a fleet of vehicles back when I went there. I drove a couple of the vans and trucks for different projects. I never heard of a coach getting a school issued vehicle. I have heard that the local dealerships will loan coaches a free car or truck though.

This was in the early 1990s but I worked for the MSU ground maintenance crew for a few summers and drove a few fleet vehicles around Bozeman.

Got completely vetted then to be able to drive one.

The story from Robbie's source sounds legit. I once had a company issued car towed on a Saturday for parking in a tow away zone. I had to wait until the following Monday to get notarized letters from the leasing company and my company, before the impound would let me get the car out.

Legit...with a word like envolded.....

Well…also reads like the source is a tow truck driver. No offense to any of you tow truck drivers out there!

[PapaG]

When you let one get away with it basically scotch free, it doesn’t really teach others to toe the line.

This is a really bad look for MSU and Vigen. It’s past time to be strict now.

The players follow their coaches and this is too much. O’Brien selling meth years ago was enough but two DUIs on both coordinators is too much and Brett needs to step up and take care of this as a leader.

A DUI is bad but then basically taking another car to flee the scene is a lot to keep on staff.

[Lord Vigo]

The other day, I looked in the paper for something to do. No concerts or drag queen story hours. So I found a crowded area and started shooting a handgun into the air indiscriminately.

I blame the Bozeman Chamber of Commerce.