Indoor facility

[cats2506]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

Don’t misunderstand I am not in the “it’s not good enough” group. I just can’t wrap my brain around it vs the DSU’s. We just built a beautiful building and so we don’t need weight rooms and conference rooms etc in the IPF. Is the only thing we are missing the field itself? And a follow up with the double rep practicing we are currently running is an 80 yard field big enough (I assume it must be but haven’t been to a practice to know for sure)

It seems to be all the coaches have been asking for these last few years, so I'm guessing it's all that's needed.

I think an 80 yard field is plenty. In practice you rarely have plays where you're using 60 full yards of a field (including the EZ). And if you do have those plays occasionally it's not the end of the world to pause the double rep deal and stagger the two groups. More is always better, but I'd think 80 yards is ample. I do like that the building could be extended fairly easily down the road.

I get it, it would be nice to be able to claim MSU has THE best facilities. But with recruits I think you show them we have locker/weight/training/meeting facilities that are second to none, then show that there is an IPF. I don't think anybody cares all that much which one of those is nicest, just that there is one.

MSU is getting guys that have G5 interest without an indoor facility. Wait till we have this next piece to show recruits! It is a game changer, especially when compared to the bubble in Missoula.

Isn't their "bubble" like 3 blocks from the **cough** champions center **cough**

[PHAT CAT]

Great place for the IPF. But for the love of God. Make it 100 yards. You have the crews there building it. Don't come back later, to finish the job.

[MSU01]

Great place for the IPF. But for the love of God. Make it 100 yards. You have the crews there building it. Don't come back later, to finish the job.

Great idea, is the construction company giving us the Buy 80 yards, get 20 free deal?

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

You need 100 yards to play the game, but you don't need more than 80 to set up your gameplan, even on ST. The safety punt is 80 yards from the endzone. And that rarely if ever actually gets kicked to the endzone. The kickoff plus runup requires 70 yards. Anything longer than that is just a footrace at the end of the play, and those are not the point of practice.

[ilovethecats]

The original plan was only going to be 80 yards as well. A good majority of practice facilities are only 80 yards.

[ND0479]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

Don’t misunderstand I am not in the “it’s not good enough” group. I just can’t wrap my brain around it vs the DSU’s. We just built a beautiful building and so we don’t need weight rooms and conference rooms etc in the IPF. Is the only thing we are missing the field itself? And a follow up with the double rep practicing we are currently running is an 80 yard field big enough (I assume it must be but haven’t been to a practice to know for sure)

It seems to be all the coaches have been asking for these last few years, so I'm guessing it's all that's needed.

I think an 80 yard field is plenty. In practice you rarely have plays where you're using 60 full yards of a field (including the EZ). And if you do have those plays occasionally it's not the end of the world to pause the double rep deal and stagger the two groups. More is always better, but I'd think 80 yards is ample. I do like that the building could be extended fairly easily down the road.

I get it, it would be nice to be able to claim MSU has THE best facilities. But with recruits I think you show them we have locker/weight/training/meeting facilities that are second to none, then show that there is an IPF. I don't think anybody cares all that much which one of those is nicest, just that there is one.

I’ve always wondered why the indoor fields are shorter. Most of the college facilities I’ve been to are 80yds and nearly every HS in TX has an indoor complex with a 40yd + end zone field. You wouldn’t think adding another 20 yards of turf and building space would add that much cost but maybe I’m wrong.

[ilovethecats]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

Don’t misunderstand I am not in the “it’s not good enough” group. I just can’t wrap my brain around it vs the DSU’s. We just built a beautiful building and so we don’t need weight rooms and conference rooms etc in the IPF. Is the only thing we are missing the field itself? And a follow up with the double rep practicing we are currently running is an 80 yard field big enough (I assume it must be but haven’t been to a practice to know for sure)

It seems to be all the coaches have been asking for these last few years, so I'm guessing it's all that's needed.

I think an 80 yard field is plenty. In practice you rarely have plays where you're using 60 full yards of a field (including the EZ). And if you do have those plays occasionally it's not the end of the world to pause the double rep deal and stagger the two groups. More is always better, but I'd think 80 yards is ample. I do like that the building could be extended fairly easily down the road.

I get it, it would be nice to be able to claim MSU has THE best facilities. But with recruits I think you show them we have locker/weight/training/meeting facilities that are second to none, then show that there is an IPF. I don't think anybody cares all that much which one of those is nicest, just that there is one.

I’ve always wondered why the indoor fields are shorter. Most of the college facilities I’ve been to are 80yds and nearly every HS in TX has an indoor complex with a 40yd + end zone field. You wouldn’t think adding another 20 yards of turf and building space would add that much cost but maybe I’m wrong.

Probably because there is an added expense and it’s not necessary. No plays you work on need 100 yards of field. Kickoffs are the longest “play” a team will run and doesn’t need 100 yards. If you wanna work on that kind of stuff you just back your kick team up. 80 yards is plenty of room to do everything they do in a typical practice.

[PHAT CAT]

Great place for the IPF. But for the love of God. Make it 100 yards. You have the crews there building it. Don't come back later, to finish the job.

Great idea, is the construction company giving us the Buy 80 yards, get 20 free deal?

It's called not paying for a F'ing mob cost twice, for the contractor and every sub that works on the job. But, I guess you've never owned a construction company. If they only want 80 yards, fine.

[AFCAT]

I think the Cats should build a 110 yard long by 65 yard wide field, just in case any of the athletes want to go play in Canada someday.

[thisnamesucks]

Can anyone explain what the benefit of the extra 20 yards really would add?

[AFCAT]

Can anyone explain what the benefit of the extra 20 yards really would add?

Damnit, you corrected your post before I could make fun of it.

[thisnamesucks]

Can anyone explain what the benefit of the extra 20 yards really would add?

Damnit, you corrected your post before I could make fun of it.

Hahaha was clicking the edit button as fast as I could

[Catsrgrood]

Can anyone explain what the benefit of the extra 20 yards really would add?

I fully admit that I assumed most IPF’s were 100yds. So learning otherwise, I take back my concern over it.
If that’s what the majority of schools do and it works and everyone is happy with it, that’s more than enough for me.

[85CatGrad]

If I win the lottery our IPF will be 200 yards!

[lutecat]

I haven't read the whole thread. Are we almost there on the IPF?

[AFCAT]

I haven't read the whole thread. Are we almost there on the IPF?

Nope, it was canceled due to BN not liking the size and design.

[cat-o-nine]

I haven't read the whole thread. Are we almost there on the IPF?

Nope, it was canceled due to BN not liking the size and design.

Well, way to go guys. Guess we can't have anything nice!

[Montanabob]

I haven't read the whole thread. Are we almost there on the IPF?

Nope, it was canceled due to BN not liking the size and design.

Well, way to go guys. Guess we can't have anything nice!

Real reason is the BOR said we can't get permission to even design one until the griz have theirs built .

[Bobcatsinmso]

Nothing less than what the ducks have in Eugene will do. Only about 200 million to get it done, so put everything else on hold.
All kidding aside if you ever have a chance to check it out....wow.
I

[MSU01]

I haven't read the whole thread. Are we almost there on the IPF?

Nope, it was canceled due to BN not liking the size and design.

Well, way to go guys. Guess we can't have anything nice!

Real reason is the BOR said we can't get permission to even design one until the griz have theirs inflated.

Slight inaccuracy, fixed it for you though.