Indoor facility

[AFCAT]

Where are the tailgating spots over there going or will the building be south of the existing spots.

It’s being built on land used by maintenance. If you happen to get on google maps, you can see what is there currently.

If the location shown on the diagram on the previous page is accurate, what's currently there is in fact a parking lot which is used for tailgating during football season. Looks like the front of the building will be quite close to Kagy.

Not really close to Kagy at all. The whole parking lot is between this facility and Kagy. There may be a few tailgating spots lost, including the QB club spot, but not many.

[MSU01]

Where are the tailgating spots over there going or will the building be south of the existing spots.

It’s being built on land used by maintenance. If you happen to get on google maps, you can see what is there currently.

If the location shown on the diagram on the previous page is accurate, what's currently there is in fact a parking lot which is used for tailgating during football season. Looks like the front of the building will be quite close to Kagy.

Not really close to Kagy at all. The whole parking lot is between this facility and Kagy. There may be a few tailgating spots lost, including the QB club spot, but not many.

So does the last diagram you posted on Page 8 not show it in the correct location compared to the stadium? Because that's definitely right in the middle of the parking lot and appears to extend out towards Kagy further than the BAC.

[snarf]

Where are the tailgating spots over there going or will the building be south of the existing spots.

It’s being built on land used by maintenance. If you happen to get on google maps, you can see what is there currently.

If the location shown on the diagram on the previous page is accurate, what's currently there is in fact a parking lot which is used for tailgating during football season. Looks like the front of the building will be quite close to Kagy.

Not really close to Kagy at all. The whole parking lot is between this facility and Kagy. There may be a few tailgating spots lost, including the QB club spot, but not many.

So does the last diagram you posted on Page 8 not show it in the correct location compared to the stadium? Because that's definitely right in the middle of the parking lot and appears to extend out towards Kagy further than the BAC.

I believe you are orienting yourself incorrectly. The back corner of the BAC and Kagy are at the very top of that drawing. You can see the track to the south of the stadium in the bottom right.

[MSU01]

Where are the tailgating spots over there going or will the building be south of the existing spots.

It’s being built on land used by maintenance. If you happen to get on google maps, you can see what is there currently.

If the location shown on the diagram on the previous page is accurate, what's currently there is in fact a parking lot which is used for tailgating during football season. Looks like the front of the building will be quite close to Kagy.

Not really close to Kagy at all. The whole parking lot is between this facility and Kagy. There may be a few tailgating spots lost, including the QB club spot, but not many.

So does the last diagram you posted on Page 8 not show it in the correct location compared to the stadium? Because that's definitely right in the middle of the parking lot and appears to extend out towards Kagy further than the BAC.

I believe you are orienting yourself incorrectly. The back corner of the BAC and kagy are at the very top of that drawing. You can see the track to the south of the e zone in the bottom right.

You are correct, I looked at Google Maps and officially am a moron this evening!

[AFCAT]

So it’s not a full size field?

The original design with the track didn’t have a full size field either.

[RockyBearCat]

Where are the tailgating spots over there going or will the building be south of the existing spots.

It’s being built on land used by maintenance. If you happen to get on google maps, you can see what is there currently.

If the location shown on the diagram on the previous page is accurate, what's currently there is in fact a parking lot which is used for tailgating during football season. Looks like the front of the building will be quite close to Kagy.

not close to Kagy - you are looking at it wrong. It is where the blue box is.

[The Butcher]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

[AFCAT]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

[Montanabob]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

[Cataholic]

I am blown away by the entitlement of some of the posts. This is huge news and an incredible development for MSU athletics. It surpasses little brother to the west and easily puts MSU on par with many G5 schools. Some of the comments are a complete slap in the face to the people making these decisions. Seriously, questioning why guys have to walk uncovered between the IPF and the BAC is moronic.

This whole project looks pretty amazing! It will be huge for our recruiting! Get out your checkbooks! Let’s get this done!

[BelligerentBobcat]

I am blown away by the entitlement of some of the posts. This is huge news and an incredible development for MSU athletics. It surpasses little brother to the west and easily puts MSU on par with many G5 schools. Some of the comments are a complete slap in the face to the people making these decisions. Seriously, questioning why guys have to walk uncovered between the IPF and the BAC is moronic.

This whole project looks pretty amazing! It will be huge for our recruiting! Get out your checkbooks! Let’s get this done!

I’m with Cataholic here. IPF looks great and would be great.

[AFCAT]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

[MSU01]

I am blown away by the entitlement of some of the posts. This is huge news and an incredible development for MSU athletics. It surpasses little brother to the west and easily puts MSU on par with many G5 schools. Some of the comments are a complete slap in the face to the people making these decisions. Seriously, questioning why guys have to walk uncovered between the IPF and the BAC is moronic.

This whole project looks pretty amazing! It will be huge for our recruiting! Get out your checkbooks! Let’s get this done!

Indeed. With the landscape of college athletics these days, you can't afford to wait around for five or ten more years in hopes that a mega-donor drops out of the sky to let you build something that's double or triple the cost of what we can afford now. Get the IPF done ASAP and then we can start to shift the focus for future improvements back to the stadium upgrades that fans on here are also clamoring for.

[60's Cat]

The more you guys donate, the bigger and better they can build it. Contact the alumni association to donate to the project.

There only around 500 donors to the BAC. Increasing the number of donors significantly would allow greater flexibility.]

[ND0479]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

[catgrad05]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

[kennethnoisewater]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

[catgrad05]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

Don’t misunderstand I am not in the “it’s not good enough” group. I just can’t wrap my brain around it vs the DSU’s. We just built a beautiful building and so we don’t need weight rooms and conference rooms etc in the IPF. Is the only thing we are missing the field itself? And a follow up with the double rep practicing we are currently running is an 80 yard field big enough (I assume it must be but haven’t been to a practice to know for sure)

[kennethnoisewater]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

Don’t misunderstand I am not in the “it’s not good enough” group. I just can’t wrap my brain around it vs the DSU’s. We just built a beautiful building and so we don’t need weight rooms and conference rooms etc in the IPF. Is the only thing we are missing the field itself? And a follow up with the double rep practicing we are currently running is an 80 yard field big enough (I assume it must be but haven’t been to a practice to know for sure)

It seems to be all the coaches have been asking for these last few years, so I'm guessing it's all that's needed.

I think an 80 yard field is plenty. In practice you rarely have plays where you're using 60 full yards of a field (including the EZ). And if you do have those plays occasionally it's not the end of the world to pause the double rep deal and stagger the two groups. More is always better, but I'd think 80 yards is ample. I do like that the building could be extended fairly easily down the road.

I get it, it would be nice to be able to claim MSU has THE best facilities. But with recruits I think you show them we have locker/weight/training/meeting facilities that are second to none, then show that there is an IPF. I don't think anybody cares all that much which one of those is nicest, just that there is one.

[Cataholic]

Crazy to see that this project is estimated to cost $214 per square foot. I bet 10 years ago it would have been $114 per square foot...
I wonder logistically how the team will go to the facility. Get dressed and walk over?

I think they can handle walking across the parking lot. They practice outdoors now, so a short walk shouldn’t be too difficult.

Would rather it be in the NW corner and take out the prime tailgating. Covered walkway to it.

I’m taking that as sarcasm.

I'm thrilled with the whole thing! Pumped the team is this close to having an IPF, but I do agree with him. I wish it was somehow attached to the BAC...just if I had my druthers. Again, thrilled they're getting it regardless of where it is!

Okay some one with more time can you look into and explain something.

Our IPF is estimated to cost $15 million, the flier says we are competing with SDSU and NDSU whose facilities are in the 30-50 million range.

I understand the BAC need to be included when comparing and here is the question. When you combine our two potential facilities how does that actually stock up to the other two?

1) Assume our SQ feet is smaller because we are also using the brick for some things

2) does the IPF but us on equal ground or are we the best of the next tier?

It's hard to make comparisons. SDSU's is for athletics in general. NDSU's is for football only, but they also don't own the Fargodome, so that's probably a factor. I'm not sure what we're leaving on the table by not building something that costs more. It seems like I'm reading a little bit of "this isn't good enough" from a few posters. Maybe I'm reading that wrong and I hope I am, because it comes off like a teenager who's mad that the family vacation that Mom and Dad saved up all year for is to California and not Hawaii.

I don't know what would be left to add that those programs have. Functionally I think this just about gives MSU football everything it needs. I'm sure you could always throw in some bells and whistles for recruiting, but honestly when you're trying to recruit a kid to Fargo, you need a little extra flash.

Don’t misunderstand I am not in the “it’s not good enough” group. I just can’t wrap my brain around it vs the DSU’s. We just built a beautiful building and so we don’t need weight rooms and conference rooms etc in the IPF. Is the only thing we are missing the field itself? And a follow up with the double rep practicing we are currently running is an 80 yard field big enough (I assume it must be but haven’t been to a practice to know for sure)

It seems to be all the coaches have been asking for these last few years, so I'm guessing it's all that's needed.

I think an 80 yard field is plenty. In practice you rarely have plays where you're using 60 full yards of a field (including the EZ). And if you do have those plays occasionally it's not the end of the world to pause the double rep deal and stagger the two groups. More is always better, but I'd think 80 yards is ample. I do like that the building could be extended fairly easily down the road.

I get it, it would be nice to be able to claim MSU has THE best facilities. But with recruits I think you show them we have locker/weight/training/meeting facilities that are second to none, then show that there is an IPF. I don't think anybody cares all that much which one of those is nicest, just that there is one.

MSU is getting guys that have G5 interest without an indoor facility. Wait till we have this next piece to show recruits! It is a game changer, especially when compared to the bubble in Missoula.