No way the Griz should be in the playoffs

[CatsNoMatterWhat]

So, back to the Griz... in Bobby's interview after the SEMO game he made a comment something about UM and NDSU have been on a crash course to play each other... uh, what? I swear, that entire program from the top down has a complex, they are all literally brainwashed, thinking they are way better than they are. Yes, I'm sure NDSU has been waiting their whole lives to finally go up against a team that went four and four in their league.

You have to keep in mind that Grizzly Football is a sycophantic culture. The majority of Griz fans are just fans..."reasonable folks", you might say.

However, the BIG FANS--the boosters, the "E-Griz Crazies", etc. are all sycophants for Bobby and that football team. Bobby thinks SO HIGHLY of Bobby that he's a self-worshipping sycophant. This could also slide it's way into narcissism--and where Bobby is concerned I think it does--but like any other situation where sycophants are present, "clear", "realistic" thoughts are not present. It's an obsession.

I've had to remind myself of that over the years, because when you hear Bobby talk and pontificate about what an HONOR it is for anybody to play the Griz, it's maddening. But he's not thinking clearly. Bobby is obsessed with Bobby, and the "BIG FANS" of Griz football are obsessed with that team. To an unhealthy degree. For the most part I have to totally avoid E-Griz anymore.

Just my view of things over there.

[cats2506]

As I told my um grad office mate, um @ NDSU is a win win for the Cats, if NDSU wins its always good when the gris lose, if somehow um wins then they just weakened the other side of the bracket and assured the natty will go to our side of the bracket.

[Cledus]

So, back to the Griz... in Bobby's interview after the SEMO game he made a comment something about UM and NDSU have been on a crash course to play each other... uh, what? I swear, that entire program from the top down has a complex, they are all literally brainwashed, thinking they are way better than they are. Yes, I'm sure NDSU has been waiting their whole lives to finally go up against a team that went four and four in their league.

… at home.

[GoCats18]

I would love to see the NDSU fan base play Mony Mony and chant Eat S*** Grizzlies Go Bison Go!! Maybe Griz fans would start to catch on that nobody like them.

[CelticCat]

My issue with the Griz being in the playoffs wasn't that I didn't think they were a playoff caliber team, in fact I thought they'd likely win whatever 1st round home game they got. It's that a team that went 4-4 in their own conference just shouldn't get in. Sure a 9-2 FAMU team would likely get smoked by the Griz but the point of a 24 team playoff is to let little guys get into the play-in rounds, not just populate it with 3-6th place finishing teams in the top 2-3 conferences.

So no, their win did not change my mind that they shouldn't have been in because them being good enough was never my argument in the first place. At some point you have to win some meaningful regular season games.

[BelligerentBobcat]

My issue with the Griz being in the playoffs wasn't that I didn't think they were a playoff caliber team, in fact I thought they'd likely win whatever 1st round home game they got. It's that a team that went 4-4 in their own conference just shouldn't get in. Sure a 9-2 FAMU team would likely get smoked by the Griz but the point of a 24 team playoff is to let little guys get into the play-in rounds, not just populate it with 3-6th place finishing teams in the top 2-3 conferences.

So no, their win did not change my mind that they shouldn't have been in because them being good enough was never my argument in the first place. At some point you have to win some meaningful regular season games.

Can’t say I agree. The best teams should be in. The Griz probably go 9-2 or better with FAMU’s schedule. What needs to be changed, imo, is letting a team with UM’s resume/record get a home game. Shouldn’t be about the money.

[rivercat]

My issue with the Griz being in the playoffs wasn't that I didn't think they were a playoff caliber team, in fact I thought they'd likely win whatever 1st round home game they got. It's that a team that went 4-4 in their own conference just shouldn't get in. Sure a 9-2 FAMU team would likely get smoked by the Griz but the point of a 24 team playoff is to let little guys get into the play-in rounds, not just populate it with 3-6th place finishing teams in the top 2-3 conferences.

So no, their win did not change my mind that they shouldn't have been in because them being good enough was never my argument in the first place. At some point you have to win some meaningful regular season games.

Can’t say I agree. The best teams should be in. The Griz probably go 9-2 or better with FAMU’s schedule. What needs to be changed, imo, is letting a team with UM’s resume/record get a home game. Shouldn’t be about the money.

It's not about the money... sometimes...maybe... depending...

[LIBBYCAT]

But but but, the committee proved it’s not about the money when they gave the Game to Weber over UND Considering UND had a much higher bid. I think the only explanation was the screwing Weber got in the seeding, and the subsequent screwing we got having to play a team that should have been seeded, in the second round.
Solid explainable seeding requirements that use strength of schedule(covers good conferences) over wins and losses to poor teams.
Need to exclude money games(not all are equal) and play down games.
Considering injuries is fools errand as we haven’t been at full strength offensively one game and truthfully depth is as important as the starters. 7-4 can’t be the bar, good teams that play in strong conferences and take on a strong OOC schedule shouldn’t be punished.
OOC games against ranked opponents should be encouraged as the excitement and quality product will raise the bar for the division. Use Sagarin, Massey, I just want the criteria defined and understandable. All in all the fact that the Griz got in is a poor reflection on the committee not the Griz. That said, Cats got some work to do!

[Bobcat4Ever]

I do not want the gris to defeat the Bizon. Period. No way. In fact, something like 52-10 would be a nice ending. Since the Bizon (and only they) have ended our season three years in a row, I honestly want to have a shot at them again in Frisco or wherever. No one has beaten the Bizon in Frisco. When someone finally does, and it will happen, I want it to be us. The true FCS champion still needs to vanquish the Bizon to stand at the very top.

[Bobcat Sig]

Ummm… it’s the biSon. With an ‘S’.

[Cledus]

Ummm… it’s the biSon. With an ‘S’.

They put the bi- in bison.

[jgrilley406]

I do not want the gris to defeat the Bizon. Period. No way. In fact, something like 52-10 would be a nice ending. Since the Bizon (and only they) have ended our season three years in a row, I honestly want to have a shot at them again in Frisco or wherever. No one has beaten the Bizon in Frisco. When someone finally does, and it will happen, I want it to be us. The true FCS champion still needs to vanquish the Bizon to stand at the very top.

Sounds like NDSU will be without quite a bit of starters going into their game: two OL, TE, DT, starting CB transferred and probably biggest loss of them all is FB/RB Hunter Luepke.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Ummm… it’s the biSon. With an ‘S’.

False. It’s Bizon Vs Gris.

[Fahque]

[Joe Bobcat]

I would love to see the NDSU fan base play Mony Mony and chant Eat S*** Grizzlies Go Bison Go!! Maybe Griz fans would start to catch on that nobody like them.

Oh they're aware that nobody likes them, they're just in denial about why nobody likes them.

[onceacat]

But but but, the committee proved it’s not about the money when they gave the Game to Weber over UND Considering UND had a much higher bid. I think the only explanation was the screwing Weber got in the seeding, and the subsequent screwing we got having to play a team that should have been seeded, in the second round.
Solid explainable seeding requirements that use strength of schedule(covers good conferences) over wins and losses to poor teams.
Need to exclude money games(not all are equal) and play down games.
Considering injuries is fools errand as we haven’t been at full strength offensively one game and truthfully depth is as important as the starters. 7-4 can’t be the bar, good teams that play in strong conferences and take on a strong OOC schedule shouldn’t be punished.
OOC games against ranked opponents should be encouraged as the excitement and quality product will raise the bar for the division. Use Sagarin, Massey, I just want the criteria defined and understandable. All in all the fact that the Griz got in is a poor reflection on the committee not the Griz. That said, Cats got some work to do!

Do we know that UNDs bid was materially higher than WSUs? Last I heard, that wasn't publicly available.

Play down games are already excluded. Thats likely a big part of why Weber got dropped from the seeds in favor or UIW & Holy Cross, both of which played a full D1 schedule.

And for whatever reason (I honestly don't understand why) the computer algorithms LOVE the Griz. UM is #8 in Massey. Sagarin for reasons I can't fathom still has UM above the Cats.

For whatever thats worth.

[ilovethecats]

But but but, the committee proved it’s not about the money when they gave the Game to Weber over UND Considering UND had a much higher bid. I think the only explanation was the screwing Weber got in the seeding, and the subsequent screwing we got having to play a team that should have been seeded, in the second round.
Solid explainable seeding requirements that use strength of schedule(covers good conferences) over wins and losses to poor teams.
Need to exclude money games(not all are equal) and play down games.
Considering injuries is fools errand as we haven’t been at full strength offensively one game and truthfully depth is as important as the starters. 7-4 can’t be the bar, good teams that play in strong conferences and take on a strong OOC schedule shouldn’t be punished.
OOC games against ranked opponents should be encouraged as the excitement and quality product will raise the bar for the division. Use Sagarin, Massey, I just want the criteria defined and understandable. All in all the fact that the Griz got in is a poor reflection on the committee not the Griz. That said, Cats got some work to do!

Do we know that UNDs bid was materially higher than WSUs? Last I heard, that wasn't publicly available.

Play down games are already excluded. Thats likely a big part of why Weber got dropped from the seeds in favor or UIW & Holy Cross, both of which played a full D1 schedule.

And for whatever reason (I honestly don't understand why) the computer algorithms LOVE the Griz. UM is #8 in Massey. Sagarin for reasons I can't fathom still has UM above the Cats.

For whatever thats worth.

Webers bid was less than $42,000 and UND’s was over $127,000.

But Weber is also way better than UND so who knows what their criteria is.

[BleedingBLue]

But but but, the committee proved it’s not about the money when they gave the Game to Weber over UND Considering UND had a much higher bid. I think the only explanation was the screwing Weber got in the seeding, and the subsequent screwing we got having to play a team that should have been seeded, in the second round.
Solid explainable seeding requirements that use strength of schedule(covers good conferences) over wins and losses to poor teams.
Need to exclude money games(not all are equal) and play down games.
Considering injuries is fools errand as we haven’t been at full strength offensively one game and truthfully depth is as important as the starters. 7-4 can’t be the bar, good teams that play in strong conferences and take on a strong OOC schedule shouldn’t be punished.
OOC games against ranked opponents should be encouraged as the excitement and quality product will raise the bar for the division. Use Sagarin, Massey, I just want the criteria defined and understandable. All in all the fact that the Griz got in is a poor reflection on the committee not the Griz. That said, Cats got some work to do!

Do we know that UNDs bid was materially higher than WSUs? Last I heard, that wasn't publicly available.

Play down games are already excluded. Thats likely a big part of why Weber got dropped from the seeds in favor or UIW & Holy Cross, both of which played a full D1 schedule.

And for whatever reason (I honestly don't understand why) the computer algorithms LOVE the Griz. UM is #8 in Massey. Sagarin for reasons I can't fathom still has UM above the Cats.

For whatever thats worth.

UIW played Faulkner University, an NAIA school in Alabama. They really had no business being seeded over Weber.

[Cataholic]

But but but, the committee proved it’s not about the money when they gave the Game to Weber over UND Considering UND had a much higher bid. I think the only explanation was the screwing Weber got in the seeding, and the subsequent screwing we got having to play a team that should have been seeded, in the second round.
Solid explainable seeding requirements that use strength of schedule(covers good conferences) over wins and losses to poor teams.
Need to exclude money games(not all are equal) and play down games.
Considering injuries is fools errand as we haven’t been at full strength offensively one game and truthfully depth is as important as the starters. 7-4 can’t be the bar, good teams that play in strong conferences and take on a strong OOC schedule shouldn’t be punished.
OOC games against ranked opponents should be encouraged as the excitement and quality product will raise the bar for the division. Use Sagarin, Massey, I just want the criteria defined and understandable. All in all the fact that the Griz got in is a poor reflection on the committee not the Griz. That said, Cats got some work to do!

Do we know that UNDs bid was materially higher than WSUs? Last I heard, that wasn't publicly available.

Play down games are already excluded. Thats likely a big part of why Weber got dropped from the seeds in favor or UIW & Holy Cross, both of which played a full D1 schedule.

And for whatever reason (I honestly don't understand why) the computer algorithms LOVE the Griz. UM is #8 in Massey. Sagarin for reasons I can't fathom still has UM above the Cats.

For whatever thats worth.

Webers bid was less than $42,000 and UND’s was over $127,000.

But Weber is also way better than UND so who knows what their criteria is.

Where did you see this? If true, there should be some type of investigation.

[ilovethecats]

But but but, the committee proved it’s not about the money when they gave the Game to Weber over UND Considering UND had a much higher bid. I think the only explanation was the screwing Weber got in the seeding, and the subsequent screwing we got having to play a team that should have been seeded, in the second round.
Solid explainable seeding requirements that use strength of schedule(covers good conferences) over wins and losses to poor teams.
Need to exclude money games(not all are equal) and play down games.
Considering injuries is fools errand as we haven’t been at full strength offensively one game and truthfully depth is as important as the starters. 7-4 can’t be the bar, good teams that play in strong conferences and take on a strong OOC schedule shouldn’t be punished.
OOC games against ranked opponents should be encouraged as the excitement and quality product will raise the bar for the division. Use Sagarin, Massey, I just want the criteria defined and understandable. All in all the fact that the Griz got in is a poor reflection on the committee not the Griz. That said, Cats got some work to do!

Do we know that UNDs bid was materially higher than WSUs? Last I heard, that wasn't publicly available.

Play down games are already excluded. Thats likely a big part of why Weber got dropped from the seeds in favor or UIW & Holy Cross, both of which played a full D1 schedule.

And for whatever reason (I honestly don't understand why) the computer algorithms LOVE the Griz. UM is #8 in Massey. Sagarin for reasons I can't fathom still has UM above the Cats.

For whatever thats worth.

Webers bid was less than $42,000 and UND’s was over $127,000.

But Weber is also way better than UND so who knows what their criteria is.

Where did you see this? If true, there should be some type of investigation.

https://sports.yahoo.com/records-show-u ... 00408.html