No way the Griz should be in the playoffs

[onceacat]

Let's say Portland State goes 5-0 against subpar teams then loses 4 of 6 to finish 7-4, 4-4. Does their name even come up in the selection committee discussion? No.

Swap Portland for the Cats. If we had the same record last year going into Cat- Griz as the gris did this year, and got the beat down we did, NO WAY we would have made the playoffs. Total gris bias and chasing the cash. In addition to them getting an ESPN broadcast as well. Makes me mad.

Yes we do. See, for reference, the 2014 season where the Cats started the season ranked #18, climbed to #12, then got totally curb stomped in Missoula.

Still got a home game. Rumor was at the time that Haslem really went to bat for the Cats.

Nothing unusual about an undeserving 7-4 team from a power conference making the playoffs.

[Cataholic]

Let's say Portland State goes 5-0 against subpar teams then loses 4 of 6 to finish 7-4, 4-4. Does their name even come up in the selection committee discussion? No.

Swap Portland for the Cats. If we had the same record last year going into Cat- Griz as the gris did this year, and got the beat down we did, NO WAY we would have made the playoffs. Total gris bias and chasing the cash. In addition to them getting an ESPN broadcast as well. Makes me mad.

Yes we do. See, for reference, the 2014 season where the Cats started the season ranked #18, climbed to #12, then got totally curb stomped in Missoula.

Still got a home game. Rumor was at the time that Haslem really went to bat for the Cats.

Nothing unusual about an undeserving 7-4 team from a power conference making the playoffs.

Except there were multiple teams with better records and better wins (like against at least one team with a winning record). Plain and simple, if you don’t have one win against a team with a winning record, you probably shouldn’t get in.

[Cataholic]

Their whole premise was that they didn't have Lucas so those loses don't count. Well, you had him today and got curb stomped.

Don't know any fans who are saying that they don't count. There is also the problem that our whole offense revolves around having a healthy LJ, which today we did not have. Whether he was healthy or not today would not make a difference as you probably noticed. If our coaching staff believed in Britt I believe we could be 9-1, with the loss coming today against you guys.

You’ve never seen Britt play non-garbage time minutes, and I don’t think he’s ever played against starters. He’s slippery, but also noticeably tiny. He can’t be much worse than Brown, but saying he’d lead you to wins against top teams is pretty bold too.

He would have most definitely would've been better than Brown in the Weber and Sac St. game. I believe that he would lead us to the win in the Sac. St. game but I'm not sure about Weber. The Sac St. game went into overtime and could have easily won that with a capable backup qb. In conclusion Lucas Johnson > Britt > Injured Johnson > Brown.

Yep that's why he's your 3rd string QB, cuz he's better than your 2nd string

After the Weber St. performance he got moved up to 2nd string, because he is way better than KB. Took the coaching staff a while to realize Brown was going nowhere and Britt is way better.

KB is not good, but announcing Britt as a capable replacement is fools gold. Has Britt taken one single meaningful snap this year with the game in question? It appears that he has only played in garbage time against MSU, EWU and Cal Poly.

It was the same for us with Mellot last season, we stuck with McKay for way to long and it cost us the Brawl. I'd say there is more upside and opportunity playing Britt, Brown has shown he cannot get the job done (nothing against him, I just feel he is a poor fit for their offensive system, or rather they have a trash OC). He seems to have a similar skill set to Tommy, giving him a shot couldn't hurt at this point, it worked for us it may work for the Griz.

The Gris really don’t have any options. I am just saying that Brit has only played in garbage time against mostly third string. He hasn’t played one minute of football where the game was in question. With Tommy, he had already proven himself as a distinct threat having scored multiple times in competitive games.

And Britt looks really small. I wasn’t sure that he was going to get up from one of the hits he took yesterday.

[Smellycat]

Put the Griz in any conference other than BS or MV and they shine. I think Davis had a better resume with better wins…..but here we are.

[HelenaCat95]

UM is the Olivia Jade of FCS football, and Haslam is Lori Loughlin.

Too obscure of a reference?

[onceacat]

Let's say Portland State goes 5-0 against subpar teams then loses 4 of 6 to finish 7-4, 4-4. Does their name even come up in the selection committee discussion? No.

Swap Portland for the Cats. If we had the same record last year going into Cat- Griz as the gris did this year, and got the beat down we did, NO WAY we would have made the playoffs. Total gris bias and chasing the cash. In addition to them getting an ESPN broadcast as well. Makes me mad.

Yes we do. See, for reference, the 2014 season where the Cats started the season ranked #18, climbed to #12, then got totally curb stomped in Missoula.

Still got a home game. Rumor was at the time that Haslem really went to bat for the Cats.

Nothing unusual about an undeserving 7-4 team from a power conference making the playoffs.

Except there were multiple teams with better records and better wins (like against at least one team with a winning record). Plain and simple, if you don’t have one win against a team with a winning record, you probably shouldn’t get in.

No teams with both better records AND better wins, not from a power conference. Couple of teams with tied records & better wins but also with worse losses.

A 7-4 team from the BSC or MVFC makes the playoffs every day of the week & twice on Sunday.

I agree they don't "belong" in, but neither do any of the other options. Its what happens when you need to fill 24 slots but there are only 14-16 deserving teams.

[Cataholic]

Let's say Portland State goes 5-0 against subpar teams then loses 4 of 6 to finish 7-4, 4-4. Does their name even come up in the selection committee discussion? No.

Swap Portland for the Cats. If we had the same record last year going into Cat- Griz as the gris did this year, and got the beat down we did, NO WAY we would have made the playoffs. Total gris bias and chasing the cash. In addition to them getting an ESPN broadcast as well. Makes me mad.

Yes we do. See, for reference, the 2014 season where the Cats started the season ranked #18, climbed to #12, then got totally curb stomped in Missoula.

Still got a home game. Rumor was at the time that Haslem really went to bat for the Cats.

Nothing unusual about an undeserving 7-4 team from a power conference making the playoffs.

Except there were multiple teams with better records and better wins (like against at least one team with a winning record). Plain and simple, if you don’t have one win against a team with a winning record, you probably shouldn’t get in.

No teams with both better records AND better wins, not from a power conference. Couple of teams with tied records & better wins but also with worse losses.

A 7-4 team from the BSC or MVFC makes the playoffs every day of the week & twice on Sunday.

I agree they don't "belong" in, but neither do any of the other options. Its what happens when you need to fill 24 slots but there are only 14-16 deserving teams.

So if Davis won yesterday, they are 7-4. Do you really think that 6 Big Sky get in as you stated above “every day of the week and twice on Sunday”? I don’t think so. And if you don’t have one single win against a team with a winning record, you shouldn’t get in.

[84CatGrad]

"A 7-4 team from the BSC or MVFC makes the playoffs every day of the week & twice on Sunday."

Youngstown State is 7-4, 5-3 in the MVFC and did not get in.

[Cat - Diesel Power]

They are in because their fans will pack Washington Griz Stadium, providing needed revenue to the NCAA! The Griz are a good team, playing in a great conference!

[Camo_Cat]

They are in because their fans will pack Washington Griz Stadium, providing needed revenue to the NCAA! The Griz are a good team, playing in a great conference!

The fans will NOT pack their stadium for the first round game. They never have. They typically will have anywhere between 14k to 16k for Saturday's game. Between it being Thanksgiving weekend, students will be gone, it's a night game and will be cold, they will not come anywhere close to selling out....

[ilovethecats]

They are in because their fans will pack Washington Griz Stadium, providing needed revenue to the NCAA! The Griz are a good team, playing in a great conference!

The fans will NOT pack their stadium for the first round game. They never have. They typically will have anywhere between 14k to 16k for Saturday's game. Between it being Thanksgiving weekend, students will be gone, it's a night game and will be cold, they will not come anywhere close to selling out....

Correct. But it's all relative considering that will still likely be 4-5X more than the average attendance of everyone else that weekend.

[CelticCat]

I've said it all season, with more and more quality FCS programs moving on, I'm not sure there are legitimately 24 good football teams in the FCS anymore. I'm not sure the playoffs need to be 24.

[kennethnoisewater]

I'm pissed they're in, but I have to be honest with myself. Truth is, they really are one of the best 24 teams in the FCS. And the NCAA has openly said that whether you're the 9th or 24th best team, you're hosting if you can guarantee more money than at least 7 of the other teams who fall between 9 and 24. Unless their players give up, they'll win a first round game.

Their resume is not good when you look at wins and losses, but the committee thinks they pass the eye test, and I guess I agree. But like others have said, if their mediocrity keeps getting rewarded, they won't change a thing. They'll go to Fargo and have almost no chance to win, but if they catch lightning in a bottle, that side of the bracket is pretty winnable.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I've said it all season, with more and more quality FCS programs moving on, I'm not sure there are legitimately 24 good football teams in the FCS anymore. I'm not sure the playoffs need to be 24.

Yup. The Griz are in the top 24, but it’s a weak field at the end.

[PapaG]

Zero problem with the Gris getting in the playoffs, MSU had a similar scenario in 2014 and also got a home playoff game against Furman a few years earlier. We should all feel bad for NDSU probably playing the Alabama of FCS in the Round of 16. How unfair to the Bizon!

[mule]

They bought their way in and with a home getting to highest bid!!! That is the only way they are in this playoff picture. If you have to win a playoff spot by out bidding another team, well you get the picture. Lol

[doebrmnn]

Let's say Portland State goes 5-0 against subpar teams then loses 4 of 6 to finish 7-4, 4-4. Does their name even come up in the selection committee discussion? No.

Swap Portland for the Cats. If we had the same record last year going into Cat- Griz as the gris did this year, and got the beat down we did, NO WAY we would have made the playoffs. Total gris bias and chasing the cash. In addition to them getting an ESPN broadcast as well. Makes me mad.

Yes we do. See, for reference, the 2014 season where the Cats started the season ranked #18, climbed to #12, then got totally curb stomped in Missoula.

Still got a home game. Rumor was at the time that Haslem really went to bat for the Cats.

Nothing unusual about an undeserving 7-4 team from a power conference making the playoffs.

There is so much wrong with this post. First, the Cats were 8-4 headed into the playoffs in 2014 (not 7-4). More importantly, during that season they beat 2 teams with winning records (Sac. St. 7-5 and Idaho St. 8-4) and also beat Cent. Arkansas that was 6-6. The Griz did not beat a team this year that won more than 4 games (NW St. 4-7, USD 3-8, Ind. St. 2-9, Port. St. 4-7, Idaho St. 1-10, Cal Poly 2-9 & E. Wash 3-8). The fact that a 7-4 team that didn't beat a team with a winning record got in over two 7-4 teams that beat a team with a winning record, Rhode Island beat Elon 8-3 and playoff bound, and Chattanooga beat mercer, 7-4, demonstrates the system is rigged. Coach Hauck said as much in his press conference after the E. Wash game when he said that win got them into the playoffs. There is no doubt UM was told at that time they were in the playoffs and would be getting the Saturday night game on ESPN.

And giving you the benefit of the doubt that you meant 2013 when the Cats made the playoffs at 7-4, your argument still does not hold up because the Cats beat NAU that year that was 9-2 heading in the Playoffs and did so convincingly 36-7. It also beat a Port. St. team that went 6-6.

[jgrilley406]

Let's say Portland State goes 5-0 against subpar teams then loses 4 of 6 to finish 7-4, 4-4. Does their name even come up in the selection committee discussion? No.

Swap Portland for the Cats. If we had the same record last year going into Cat- Griz as the gris did this year, and got the beat down we did, NO WAY we would have made the playoffs. Total gris bias and chasing the cash. In addition to them getting an ESPN broadcast as well. Makes me mad.

Yes we do. See, for reference, the 2014 season where the Cats started the season ranked #18, climbed to #12, then got totally curb stomped in Missoula.

Still got a home game. Rumor was at the time that Haslem really went to bat for the Cats.

Nothing unusual about an undeserving 7-4 team from a power conference making the playoffs.

There is so much wrong with this post. First, the Cats were 8-4 headed into the playoffs in 2014 (not 7-4). More importantly, during that season they beat 2 teams with winning records (Sac. St. 7-5 and Idaho St. 8-4) and also beat Cent. Arkansas that was 6-6. The Griz did not beat a team this year that won more than 4 games (NW St. 4-7, USD 3-8, Ind. St. 2-9, Port. St. 4-7, Idaho St. 1-10, Cal Poly 2-9 & E. Wash 3-8). The fact that a 7-4 team that didn't beat a team with a winning record got in over two 7-4 teams that beat a team with a winning record, Rhode Island beat Elon 8-3 and playoff bound, and Chattanooga beat mercer, 7-4, demonstrates the system is rigged. Coach Hauck said as much in his press conference after the E. Wash game when he said that win got them into the playoffs. There is no doubt UM was told at that time they were in the playoffs and would be getting the Saturday night game on ESPN.

And giving you the benefit of the doubt that you meant 2013 when the Cats made the playoffs at 7-4, your argument still does not hold up because the Cats beat NAU that year that was 9-2 heading in the Playoffs and did so convincingly 36-7. It also beat a Port. St. team that went 6-6.

And the whole thing no 6 win teams get in isn’t true either UNI made it last year with 6 wins. They say UM passed the eyeball test but what about UCD, how did they not pass the same eyeball test. They had a win over Idaho and lost to the same teams UM did, finished with a better conference record, but the only difference was they played SDSU instead of Indiana state or South Dakota from the MVFC.

[asstastic]

They bought their way in and with a home getting to highest bid!!! That is the only way they are in this playoff picture. If you have to win a playoff spot by out bidding another team, well you get the picture. Lol

This is exactly what happened.





Delaware was 7-4, lost 4 of its last 6, including the last 2, and made the playoffs. What direction are they trending?

Montana didn’t beat a team with a winning record, and got handled in its last game. What direction are they trending?

They are both hosts.





UC Davis started the year 1-4 losing to Cal, SDSU, Weber, and MSU. Then ripped off 5 in a row including Idaho, a playoff team, and had the ball as time expired on Sac State. But they’re a 6-5 team.

FAMU lost to North Carolina and Jacksonville State to start the year while missing 26 players for some NCAA eligibility issues. They then won 8 in a row to finish the season. Let them in and if they get wiped, so be it. But they earned it. I don’t care how weak the conference is. Winning 8 football games in a row is hard.



UC Davis, you didn’t get the bench mark 7 wins. FAMU, you got screwed cause you can’t pay the NCAA enough.

[nanacat]

Article about why the gris got in. He lists all the reasons except the real one, that they make money in the first round games and the griz can provide more than many other schools. Still upset but whatever. Chances are Johnson is hurt and since one of the reasons they're in is because of not having him in those close losses. If he's out, and they lose in the first round the committee looks stupid.

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky ... cc4e0.html