OK, Who had the griz losing 3 in a Row?

[coloradocat]

We were saying the same thing last year when a #3 Bobcat team went on the road and, well… we all remember what happened. And we had a championship-caliber offense and an all-time defense last year.

This year, our defense isn’t nearly the same as last. Though the offense is seemingly much better, even more so if Chambers stays healthy and Ifanse returns.

That said - objectively - are the griz that much worse than last year? Are the that much worse than we are? (I’d say yes to the latter question)

I have a hard time saying the Griz are any worse than last year. And I'm beginning to agree with Vigo that the Cars are better. That said, like you point out, the Cats were a lot better than the Griz last year & still got curb stomped.

I actually like the matchup of our offense against their defense this year. Our O was suspect last year & they exposed it. Our D is a little suspect this year, but I don't think they have the horses to exploit that.

So the matchup favors the Cats a lot more this year.

Last year's offense was slowly fading leading up to the Cat/griz game. This year's team isn't. At worst this year's offense is steady but that's mostly the result of all the injuries. If we could go into the game with everyone available that isn't out for the season I think it could rival 2019. There's almost no way we only give up 14 because of our weaknesses on defense and special teams coverage but this offense (plus KO/P return team) could definitely put 48 on the griz.

[cats2506]

Not sure of the last time the gris lost 3 in a row, but this might be uncharted territory for bobby (not counting his short tenure at UNLV of course).

I do not think they get a seed, because they aren't beating the Cats this year. The gris will be solidly on the bubble come selection sunday.

2018 w/bobby

[BleedingBLue]

The Brawl is always a crapshoot. The Griz are a tough team with a tough D.

With that said, I think we're much faster and much more polished. If we take care of business going into the Brawl, we should be well prepared to beat them in Bozeman.

Regarding the Griz getting in at 7-4...I think they absolutely do. The conference always has a blind spot where UM is concerned. Plus...(and this drives me NUTS), but their stadium helps their case because it brings in more revenue than a 7,000 seat stadium elsewhere.

I have to disagree. The conference isn't deciding who gets in and who doesn't. The playoff committee is and they will care if the Griz are 7-4 with zero quality wins and 4 chances to beat top 25 teams with no wins. That's not a playoff team plain and simple. The media isn't making the field, the fans aren't making the field. Every 7-4 team in the CAA would have a better resume with at least 1 top 25 win. The committee doesn't care about the extra money for the NCAA off the ticket sales either.

[Bobcat Sig]

We were saying the same thing last year when a #3 Bobcat team went on the road and, well… we all remember what happened. And we had a championship-caliber offense and an all-time defense last year.

This year, our defense isn’t nearly the same as last. Though the offense is seemingly much better, even more so if Chambers stays healthy and Ifanse returns.

That said - objectively - are the griz that much worse than last year? Are the that much worse than we are? (I’d say yes to the latter question)

I have a hard time saying the Griz are any worse than last year. And I'm beginning to agree with Vigo that the Cars are better. That said, like you point out, the Cats were a lot better than the Griz last year & still got curb stomped.

I actually like the matchup of our offense against their defense this year. Our O was suspect last year & they exposed it. Our D is a little suspect this year, but I don't think they have the horses to exploit that.

So the matchup favors the Cats a lot more this year.

Last year's offense was slowly fading leading up to the Cat/griz game. This year's team isn't. At worst this year's offense is steady but that's mostly the result of all the injuries. If we could go into the game with everyone available that isn't out for the season I think it could rival 2019. There's almost no way we only give up 14 because of our weaknesses on defense and special teams coverage but this offense (plus KO/P return team) could definitely put 48 on the griz.

Totally fair. The good news is that we have a few games to tune up our special teams, which seems to be a glaring weakness at times. Shore that up, and we give up far fewer ppg. And that’ll be important as the griz seem to excel on special teams. Had it not been for that late kick-off return for a TD, the Weebz score would be much better than the final.

[coloradocat]

We were saying the same thing last year when a #3 Bobcat team went on the road and, well… we all remember what happened. And we had a championship-caliber offense and an all-time defense last year.

This year, our defense isn’t nearly the same as last. Though the offense is seemingly much better, even more so if Chambers stays healthy and Ifanse returns.

That said - objectively - are the griz that much worse than last year? Are the that much worse than we are? (I’d say yes to the latter question)

I have a hard time saying the Griz are any worse than last year. And I'm beginning to agree with Vigo that the Cars are better. That said, like you point out, the Cats were a lot better than the Griz last year & still got curb stomped.

I actually like the matchup of our offense against their defense this year. Our O was suspect last year & they exposed it. Our D is a little suspect this year, but I don't think they have the horses to exploit that.

So the matchup favors the Cats a lot more this year.

Last year's offense was slowly fading leading up to the Cat/griz game. This year's team isn't. At worst this year's offense is steady but that's mostly the result of all the injuries. If we could go into the game with everyone available that isn't out for the season I think it could rival 2019. There's almost no way we only give up 14 because of our weaknesses on defense and special teams coverage but this offense (plus KO/P return team) could definitely put 48 on the griz.

Totally fair. The good news is that we have a few games to tune up our special teams, which seems to be a glaring weakness at times. Shore that up, and we give up far fewer ppg. And that’ll be important as the griz seem to excel on special teams. Had it not been for that late kick-off return for a TD, the Weebz score would be much better than the final.

I fully expect Bobbi to put all his (and the staff's) energy into coming up with a plan to dominate defense and special teams and just roll 11 guys out there when they have the ball. If we limit them to one TD in each phase of the game we should still win. I doubt we'll give up all 3 but I'd also be surprised if any griz group scores more than 1.

[asstastic]

#RTD hahaha.

Even if the griz lose the last 2 weeks. The cats keep their blinders on and focus. I don’t care if the griz are winless in conference, they’re going to give the cats their best shot. A Cat-Griz game is never a given.

[Bobcat Sig]

We were saying the same thing last year when a #3 Bobcat team went on the road and, well… we all remember what happened. And we had a championship-caliber offense and an all-time defense last year.

This year, our defense isn’t nearly the same as last. Though the offense is seemingly much better, even more so if Chambers stays healthy and Ifanse returns.

That said - objectively - are the griz that much worse than last year? Are the that much worse than we are? (I’d say yes to the latter question)

I have a hard time saying the Griz are any worse than last year. And I'm beginning to agree with Vigo that the Cars are better. That said, like you point out, the Cats were a lot better than the Griz last year & still got curb stomped.

I actually like the matchup of our offense against their defense this year. Our O was suspect last year & they exposed it. Our D is a little suspect this year, but I don't think they have the horses to exploit that.

So the matchup favors the Cats a lot more this year.

Last year's offense was slowly fading leading up to the Cat/griz game. This year's team isn't. At worst this year's offense is steady but that's mostly the result of all the injuries. If we could go into the game with everyone available that isn't out for the season I think it could rival 2019. There's almost no way we only give up 14 because of our weaknesses on defense and special teams coverage but this offense (plus KO/P return team) could definitely put 48 on the griz.

Totally fair. The good news is that we have a few games to tune up our special teams, which seems to be a glaring weakness at times. Shore that up, and we give up far fewer ppg. And that’ll be important as the griz seem to excel on special teams. Had it not been for that late kick-off return for a TD, the Weebz score would be much better than the final.

I fully expect Bobbi to put all his (and the staff's) energy into coming up with a plan to dominate defense and special teams and just roll 11 guys out there when they have the ball. If we limit them to one TD in each phase of the game we should still win. I doubt we'll give up all 3 but I'd also be surprised if any griz group scores more than 1.

Sounds about right for ol’ Booby. That’s his brand of ball… along with cheap shots and awful pressers.

It seems like the last five Cat-griz games came down to line play and defenses setting the edge. With Choate, they always found a weakness or two to exploit. And it worked. Last year, it seems like we got worked in the trenches.

[Montanabob]

Ok I did and it have them losing one more before they lose the GAME.
Bring the GameDay to catgriz!

[onceacat]

The Brawl is always a crapshoot. The Griz are a tough team with a tough D.

With that said, I think we're much faster and much more polished. If we take care of business going into the Brawl, we should be well prepared to beat them in Bozeman.

Regarding the Griz getting in at 7-4...I think they absolutely do. The conference always has a blind spot where UM is concerned. Plus...(and this drives me NUTS), but their stadium helps their case because it brings in more revenue than a 7,000 seat stadium elsewhere.

I have to disagree. The conference isn't deciding who gets in and who doesn't. The playoff committee is and they will care if the Griz are 7-4 with zero quality wins and 4 chances to beat top 25 teams with no wins. That's not a playoff team plain and simple. The media isn't making the field, the fans aren't making the field. Every 7-4 team in the CAA would have a better resume with at least 1 top 25 win. The committee doesn't care about the extra money for the NCAA off the ticket sales either.

Stephen F Austin made the playoffs last year at 7-4 with one win over a top 25 team (#25). MSU made the playoffs in 2013 with a 8-4 record but one of those wins over Black Hills State & 0 wins over ranked teams.

The FCS is way more watered down today than it was in 2014, so I'd be borderline shocked if the Griz didn't make the cut at 7-4 with all 4 losses coming to Top 10 teams.

All those 7-4 CAA teams will probably make the cut too. There are only about 90 teams +/- in FCS once you eliminate the non-scholarship conferences & the conferences that don't play in the playoffs. Making the 24 team cut is a pretty low bar.

[rivercat]

Not sure of the last time the gris lost 3 in a row, but this might be uncharted territory for bobby (not counting his short tenure at UNLV of course).

I do not think they get a seed, because they aren't beating the Cats this year. The gris will be solidly on the bubble come selection sunday.

2018 w/bobby

That was with a team full of Stitt recruits. Gris fans bemoaned the lack of o-line talent at the time and were convinced Bobby would bring back the "DOLA". Five years later with Bobby's recruits, their o-line hasn't really improved.

[BelligerentBobcat]

We were saying the same thing last year when a #3 Bobcat team went on the road and, well… we all remember what happened. And we had a championship-caliber offense and an all-time defense last year.

This year, our defense isn’t nearly the same as last. Though the offense is seemingly much better, even more so if Chambers stays healthy and Ifanse returns.

That said - objectively - are the griz that much worse than last year? Are the that much worse than we are? (I’d say yes to the latter question)

We did not have a championship caliber offense going into Cat-Griz last year. We had an offense that was struggling, and a QB that was scared to get hit and was halfway out the door. The offense thrived AFTER Cat-Griz, and that offense has only gotten better.

[CatsNoMatterWhat]

The Brawl is always a crapshoot. The Griz are a tough team with a tough D.

With that said, I think we're much faster and much more polished. If we take care of business going into the Brawl, we should be well prepared to beat them in Bozeman.

Regarding the Griz getting in at 7-4...I think they absolutely do. The conference always has a blind spot where UM is concerned. Plus...(and this drives me NUTS), but their stadium helps their case because it brings in more revenue than a 7,000 seat stadium elsewhere.

I have to disagree. The conference isn't deciding who gets in and who doesn't. The playoff committee is and they will care if the Griz are 7-4 with zero quality wins and 4 chances to beat top 25 teams with no wins. That's not a playoff team plain and simple. The media isn't making the field, the fans aren't making the field. Every 7-4 team in the CAA would have a better resume with at least 1 top 25 win. The committee doesn't care about the extra money for the NCAA off the ticket sales either.

I wasn't clear in my post--my bad--but by "the conference" I meant the FCS. That includes the committee. They all love the Griz (at least they always seem to).

With that said, everything you said about their record and their play against top 25 is absolutely correct. I just think the committee won't kick them off the bubble. I hope I'm wrong because I can't stand them.

And I've ALWAYS heard stadium revenue plays into 1st round game assignments BIG TIME. Hope I'm wrong about that also.

[CatsNoMatterWhat]

The Brawl is always a crapshoot. The Griz are a tough team with a tough D.

With that said, I think we're much faster and much more polished. If we take care of business going into the Brawl, we should be well prepared to beat them in Bozeman.

Regarding the Griz getting in at 7-4...I think they absolutely do. The conference always has a blind spot where UM is concerned. Plus...(and this drives me NUTS), but their stadium helps their case because it brings in more revenue than a 7,000 seat stadium elsewhere.

I have to disagree. The conference isn't deciding who gets in and who doesn't. The playoff committee is and they will care if the Griz are 7-4 with zero quality wins and 4 chances to beat top 25 teams with no wins. That's not a playoff team plain and simple. The media isn't making the field, the fans aren't making the field. Every 7-4 team in the CAA would have a better resume with at least 1 top 25 win. The committee doesn't care about the extra money for the NCAA off the ticket sales either.

Stephen F Austin made the playoffs last year at 7-4 with one win over a top 25 team (#25). MSU made the playoffs in 2013 with a 8-4 record but one of those wins over Black Hills State & 0 wins over ranked teams.

The FCS is way more watered down today than it was in 2014, so I'd be borderline shocked if the Griz didn't make the cut at 7-4 with all 4 losses coming to Top 10 teams.

All those 7-4 CAA teams will probably make the cut too. There are only about 90 teams +/- in FCS once you eliminate the non-scholarship conferences & the conferences that don't play in the playoffs. Making the 24 team cut is a pretty low bar.

I agree with this. Even at 7-4 does the committee REALLY think there are 24 teams better then UM? I don't think so, personally.

[wbtfg]

I had them going 0-11. So technically, yes, I did predict they'd lose three in a row.

[GoldstoneCat]

The Brawl is always a crapshoot. The Griz are a tough team with a tough D.

With that said, I think we're much faster and much more polished. If we take care of business going into the Brawl, we should be well prepared to beat them in Bozeman.

Regarding the Griz getting in at 7-4...I think they absolutely do. The conference always has a blind spot where UM is concerned. Plus...(and this drives me NUTS), but their stadium helps their case because it brings in more revenue than a 7,000 seat stadium elsewhere.

I have to disagree. The conference isn't deciding who gets in and who doesn't. The playoff committee is and they will care if the Griz are 7-4 with zero quality wins and 4 chances to beat top 25 teams with no wins. That's not a playoff team plain and simple. The media isn't making the field, the fans aren't making the field. Every 7-4 team in the CAA would have a better resume with at least 1 top 25 win. The committee doesn't care about the extra money for the NCAA off the ticket sales either.

Stephen F Austin made the playoffs last year at 7-4 with one win over a top 25 team (#25). MSU made the playoffs in 2013 with a 8-4 record but one of those wins over Black Hills State & 0 wins over ranked teams.

The FCS is way more watered down today than it was in 2014, so I'd be borderline shocked if the Griz didn't make the cut at 7-4 with all 4 losses coming to Top 10 teams.

All those 7-4 CAA teams will probably make the cut too. There are only about 90 teams +/- in FCS once you eliminate the non-scholarship conferences & the conferences that don't play in the playoffs. Making the 24 team cut is a pretty low bar.

I agree with this. Even at 7-4 does the committee REALLY think there are 24 teams better then UM? I don't think so, personally.

They'll put em in. Unless they lose to eastern at home.

[CodyCat]

After the loss to Idaho it wasn't too hard to see how the next two weeks would play out.

I love hearing the gris fans blame the back up QB. Cats were down a Walter Payton Award calibre QB against Weber and racked up three times as many yards as they did. It perfectly shows the difference between the two programs. Brown has started games for them so the coaching staff knew what the talent level was of their QB room but still felt comfortable starting the season with him as a backup. The Cats took one look at what happened when Tommy went down and against NDSU and promptly went out and recruited more talent to bolster the ranks at that position. A decision that is paying massive dividends this year. Gris fans shouldn't blame their back up quarterback, they should blame their coaching staff for not having someone better ready to go.

In fairness, Chambers is the only QB we have had transfer to MSU that has been worth anything. I cannot think of another. You could put McKay in the conversation. Am I missing someone?

[technoCat]

After the loss to Idaho it wasn't too hard to see how the next two weeks would play out.

I love hearing the gris fans blame the back up QB. Cats were down a Walter Payton Award calibre QB against Weber and racked up three times as many yards as they did. It perfectly shows the difference between the two programs. Brown has started games for them so the coaching staff knew what the talent level was of their QB room but still felt comfortable starting the season with him as a backup. The Cats took one look at what happened when Tommy went down and against NDSU and promptly went out and recruited more talent to bolster the ranks at that position. A decision that is paying massive dividends this year. Gris fans shouldn't blame their back up quarterback, they should blame their coaching staff for not having someone better ready to go.

In fairness, Chambers is the only QB we have had transfer to MSU that has been worth anything. I cannot think of another. You could put McKay in the conversation. Am I missing someone?

Ever? Rolovich and Kempt were pretty serviceable.

[Lord Vigo]

We were saying the same thing last year when a #3 Bobcat team went on the road and, well… we all remember what happened. And we had a championship-caliber offense and an all-time defense last year.

This year, our defense isn’t nearly the same as last. Though the offense is seemingly much better, even more so if Chambers stays healthy and Ifanse returns.

That said - objectively - are the griz that much worse than last year? Are the that much worse than we are? (I’d say yes to the latter question)

The Cats’ offense was completely broken by the time the Brawl came along last year.

[CatsNoMatterWhat]

After the loss to Idaho it wasn't too hard to see how the next two weeks would play out.

I love hearing the gris fans blame the back up QB. Cats were down a Walter Payton Award calibre QB against Weber and racked up three times as many yards as they did. It perfectly shows the difference between the two programs. Brown has started games for them so the coaching staff knew what the talent level was of their QB room but still felt comfortable starting the season with him as a backup. The Cats took one look at what happened when Tommy went down and against NDSU and promptly went out and recruited more talent to bolster the ranks at that position. A decision that is paying massive dividends this year. Gris fans shouldn't blame their back up quarterback, they should blame their coaching staff for not having someone better ready to go.

In fairness, Chambers is the only QB we have had transfer to MSU that has been worth anything. I cannot think of another. You could put McKay in the conversation. Am I missing someone?

Ever? Rolovich and Kempt were pretty serviceable.

I didn’t like Kempt at all but Rolo was pretty darn good. Dude had a CANNON.

[JDoub]

I didn’t like Kempt at all but Rolo was pretty darn good. Dude had a CANNON.

We had a good BYU transfer a while back - Brock Spencer - who led us to a win in Boise - one of our few (only?) wins at Boise State

As far as the OP - no I didn’t see 3 losses coming after their start - I do think they would’ve beat Sac if the refs got the 4th down incomplete pass call correct, but still - night and day for their O without their QB1