Wow, heck of a game
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Re: Wow, heck of a game
It was a smart play for the running back from Weber to go down rather than score a touchdown. It’s much better to have a one point lead and the ball then to give the ball back to Eastern with an 8 Point lead.
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Weber could very well win out and be 7-4. If things fall in place they could still make the playoffs.
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Pretty good win for a Weber team that some were saying wasn’t a good team. I think they’re good enough to beat anyone, and while our win against them was ugly, it was a win against a pretty damn tough team.
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Try substituting "Idaho State" or "Illinois" for Weber because they pulled off great upsets.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:35 amPretty good win for a Weber team that some were saying wasn’t a good team. I think they’re good enough to beat anyone, and while our win against them was ugly, it was a win against a pretty damn tough team.
Its a great win for Weber & they deserve all the props in the world for ending EWUs 20 game win streak on that God awful red turf. They are still a 3-4 team. Probably the best 3-4 team in the country...but still a 3-4 team.
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Oh I understand. In the end you are what your record says you are but I’ve always been of the belief that it’s not black and white. I’ve seen teams I didn’t think were great that played themselves into a good record and teams that I thought were good with less than stellar records.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:12 amTry substituting "Idaho State" or "Illinois" for Weber because they pulled off great upsets.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:35 amPretty good win for a Weber team that some were saying wasn’t a good team. I think they’re good enough to beat anyone, and while our win against them was ugly, it was a win against a pretty damn tough team.
Its a great win for Weber & they deserve all the props in the world for ending EWUs 20 game win streak on that God awful red turf. They are still a 3-4 team. Probably the best 3-4 team in the country...but still a 3-4 team.
I still think Weber is a playoff team. They’re a good team in my eyes and I wasn’t surprised at all to see them win yesterday. Their defense is great.
I don’t know who Idaho state upset but I don’t think they are a good team so I’m not comfortable substituting Idaho state for Weber state at this time. Weber is MUCH better than Idaho state.
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And while I don’t think a teams schedule is the end all be all of how good they are, Weber has had a hell of a schedule. Yes they are 3-4; but their losses were to FBS Utah, #2 James Madison, I think #12 Davis, and #9 Montana St. And now beat new #2 EWU. They shouldn’t lose another game and will be 7-4 with a 5 game win streak. I still see them as a strong playoff football team.
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I predicted a Weber win, so no surprise here. MSU is the best team in the league to date. I’d rank Weber second, ewu third, SAC fourth, Davis fifth and UM sixth at this point.
Fully expect Weber win out and make the playoffs.
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I just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
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Weber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
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I'd take that bet (regarding Davis). I didn't watch yesterday, but the Box Score looks like Weber got a ton of lucky breaks & did a bunch of things that they've been really bad at all year (like score points).iaafan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:41 pmWeber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
I'll keep an open mind down the stretch...if Weber's O can prove they can actually score points and the D can continue to generate turnovers, I'll be convinced. But I need to see them do that in more than one game. I think EWU wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
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I did watch the game and Weber’s defense played outstanding. It wasn’t a series of lucky breaks only. They forced EWU into some poor decisions. Barriere was having trouble finding and open receiver, and then Weeb’s d line did a fantastic job of getting pressure and remained disciplined and Barriere couldn’t make plays with his legs.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:17 pmI'd take that bet (regarding Davis). I didn't watch yesterday, but the Box Score looks like Weber got a ton of lucky breaks & did a bunch of things that they've been really bad at all year (like score points).iaafan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:41 pmWeber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
I'll keep an open mind down the stretch...if Weber's O can prove they can actually score points and the D can continue to generate turnovers, I'll be convinced. But I need to see them do that in more than one game. I think EWU wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
Weeb’s of course caught a HUGE break on the missed PAT. Had that gone to OT, I think EWU wins. They had just fully flipped momentum when that happened. But to Weeb’s credit, they were pounding the ball in the 4th quarter with good success and earned the close-out of the game by getting a couple first downs. Weber earned that victory, no doubt. They didn’t luck their way into it.
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Interesting play in that game. Weber #91 got flagged for a late hit where the player hit his head on the ground and was injury time out to go through concussion check. Very next play, ewu gets flagged for chop block on #91.
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I watched the game as well. Easy to understand why MSU did not try to pass more against Weber. Their secondary is outstanding.tdub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:36 pmI did watch the game and Weber’s defense played outstanding. It wasn’t a series of lucky breaks only. They forced EWU into some poor decisions. Barriere was having trouble finding and open receiver, and then Weeb’s d line did a fantastic job of getting pressure and remained disciplined and Barriere couldn’t make plays with his legs.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:17 pmI'd take that bet (regarding Davis). I didn't watch yesterday, but the Box Score looks like Weber got a ton of lucky breaks & did a bunch of things that they've been really bad at all year (like score points).iaafan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:41 pmWeber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
I'll keep an open mind down the stretch...if Weber's O can prove they can actually score points and the D can continue to generate turnovers, I'll be convinced. But I need to see them do that in more than one game. I think EWU wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
Weeb’s of course caught a HUGE break on the missed PAT. Had that gone to OT, I think EWU wins. They had just fully flipped momentum when that happened. But to Weeb’s credit, they were pounding the ball in the 4th quarter with good success and earned the close-out of the game by getting a couple first downs. Weber earned that victory, no doubt. They didn’t luck their way into it.
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You didn’t watch the game, but you still think that EWU wins 9 out of 10 times? Sheesh. Even the box score will tell you that EWU was up 35 - 21 at one point in the 4th quarter. I think you have attached yourself to this theory about Weber and are too stubborn to admit you might be wrong.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:17 pmI'd take that bet (regarding Davis). I didn't watch yesterday, but the Box Score looks like Weber got a ton of lucky breaks & did a bunch of things that they've been really bad at all year (like score points).iaafan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:41 pmWeber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
I'll keep an open mind down the stretch...if Weber's O can prove they can actually score points and the D can continue to generate turnovers, I'll be convinced. But I need to see them do that in more than one game. I think EWU wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
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Yeah, I don't get that comment either. I just watched it. Both teams got a lot of breaks/unconventional plays. Two of EWU's scores were set up by turnovers. WSU had the gutsy fake punts. I thought they were fairly even. Good defense usually beats good offense and this was a good O vs. good D game if ever there was one. It was do or die for WSU, so EWU should've been ready for those fakes.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:32 pmYou didn’t watch the game, but you still think that EWU wins 9 out of 10 times? Sheesh. Even the box score will tell you that EWU was up 35 - 21 at one point in the 4th quarter. I think you have attached yourself to this theory about Weber and are too stubborn to admit you might be wrong.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:17 pmI'd take that bet (regarding Davis). I didn't watch yesterday, but the Box Score looks like Weber got a ton of lucky breaks & did a bunch of things that they've been really bad at all year (like score points).iaafan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:41 pmWeber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
I'll keep an open mind down the stretch...if Weber's O can prove they can actually score points and the D can continue to generate turnovers, I'll be convinced. But I need to see them do that in more than one game. I think EWU wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
Other way: WSU was up 35-21, is what I think you meant.
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Re: Wow, heck of a game
True-I don’t like to admit I’m wrong. And if Weber wins out, sneaks into the playoffs, and wins a couple games (or the opposite…EWU loses a few & flames out in the playoffs) I’ll have to do so. But Weber’s 1-4 record against the Top 20 in their last 4 games makes me think differently.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:53 pmYeah, I don't get that comment either. I just watched it. Both teams got a lot of breaks/unconventional plays. Two of EWU's scores were set up by turnovers. WSU had the gutsy fake punts. I thought they were fairly even. Good defense usually beats good offense and this was a good O vs. good D game if ever there was one. It was do or die for WSU, so EWU should've been ready for those fakes.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:32 pmYou didn’t watch the game, but you still think that EWU wins 9 out of 10 times? Sheesh. Even the box score will tell you that EWU was up 35 - 21 at one point in the 4th quarter. I think you have attached yourself to this theory about Weber and are too stubborn to admit you might be wrong.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:17 pmI'd take that bet (regarding Davis). I didn't watch yesterday, but the Box Score looks like Weber got a ton of lucky breaks & did a bunch of things that they've been really bad at all year (like score points).iaafan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:41 pmWeber was down a ton of players vs Davis. At this point Weber is clearly the better team. I think they’d beat those handily right now. Still some games to play and things will probably change.onceacat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:29 pmI just can’t fathom how one would put a 3-4 Weber ahead of a 7-1 Davis, especially with the head to head.
Weber clearly moves up to #4 in my book, but no way do they jump Sac or Davis.
I think MSU & EWU are a tossup for #1 & 2 at this point…kind of depends on if you think the Eags 2 fumbles, 0-4 on 4th down D, and botched extra point are due to a bag game or if they are indicative of bigger problems.
I'll keep an open mind down the stretch...if Weber's O can prove they can actually score points and the D can continue to generate turnovers, I'll be convinced. But I need to see them do that in more than one game. I think EWU wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
Other way: WSU was up 35-21, is what I think you meant.
But it’s a great win. I was 100% wrong thinking Weber wasn’t going to hang. They deserve all the credit in the world.
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It’s amazing Weber scored 35 points against what is easily the 2nd best defense in the league!
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Re: Wow, heck of a game
Damn. Weber's better than I thought if they can get that many wins and losses in 4 games.onceacat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:49 am
True-I don’t like to admit I’m wrong. And if Weber wins out, sneaks into the playoffs, and wins a couple games (or the opposite…EWU loses a few & flames out in the playoffs) I’ll have to do so. But Weber’s 1-4 record against the Top 20 in their last 4 games makes me think differently.
But it’s a great win. I was 100% wrong thinking Weber wasn’t going to hang. They deserve all the credit in the world.
