QB Update

[BleedingBLue]

Jonsen never passes. Beltran entered a QB competition and came out of it in 3rd place.

And Jonsen can't pass

Beltran has never been given a chance. It was always just between Rovig and Bauman.

Do you really think so poorly of Choate that you think he was given no chance in the competition? Give it a rest.

[coloradocat]

I could see the “bench the qb” talk after last game, I am amazed that it is going on after this game. Rovig made some grown man throws today, every slant he threw was catchable. He made one bad throw, in a critical moment, but only one!? People keep talking about how he doesn’t read through his progressions, Choate has mentioned TWICE during pressers that they don’t coach that. It may be because of experience and ability (or lack thereof) but he said they teach pre snap, first read if it’s not there go.

I wonder why they don't coach it. Is it above their ability to coach or above the players' ability to comprehend? All of our QBs are young but they are going to need to learn how to read progressions at some point or we're never getting past the second round of the playoffs.

I'm often down on Rovig for the same reasons as Bauman. Neither is a good QB at this point. They both have potential but sometimes it seems like Miller is trying to force it. If we know these guys aren't the strength of the offense why try to make them win games for us when we have a strong OL and multiple very good options running the ball? We have to develop them but the play calling just doesn't make sense sometimes.

[Cat4LifeHouseDivided]

I could see the “bench the qb” talk after last game, I am amazed that it is going on after this game. Rovig made some grown man throws today, every slant he threw was catchable. He made one bad throw, in a critical moment, but only one!? People keep talking about how he doesn’t read through his progressions, Choate has mentioned TWICE during pressers that they don’t coach that. It may be because of experience and ability (or lack thereof) but he said they teach pre snap, first read if it’s not there go.

I wonder why they don't coach it. Is it above their ability to coach or above the players' ability to comprehend? All of our QBs are young but they are going to need to learn how to read progressions at some point or we're never getting past the second round of the playoffs.

I'm often down on Rovig for the same reasons as Bauman. Neither is a good QB at this point. They both have potential but sometimes it seems like Miller is trying to force it. If we know these guys aren't the strength of the offense why try to make them win games for us when we have a strong OL and multiple very good options running the ball? We have to develop them but the play calling just doesn't make sense sometimes.

I completely agree with this. Miller's choice of plays in certain situations was mindblowing.

[RobertCats]

I could see the “bench the qb” talk after last game, I am amazed that it is going on after this game. Rovig made some grown man throws today, every slant he threw was catchable. He made one bad throw, in a critical moment, but only one!? People keep talking about how he doesn’t read through his progressions, Choate has mentioned TWICE during pressers that they don’t coach that. It may be because of experience and ability (or lack thereof) but he said they teach pre snap, first read if it’s not there go.

I wonder why they don't coach it. Is it above their ability to coach or above the players' ability to comprehend? All of our QBs are young but they are going to need to learn how to read progressions at some point or we're never getting past the second round of the playoffs.

I'm often down on Rovig for the same reasons as Bauman. Neither is a good QB at this point. They both have potential but sometimes it seems like Miller is trying to force it. If we know these guys aren't the strength of the offense why try to make them win games for us when we have a strong OL and multiple very good options running the ball? We have to develop them but the play calling just doesn't make sense sometimes.

This is the topic of a whole other thread but that comment took me by surprise too. I hope it’s a case by case basis and not an entire philosophy and when we have that “world beater” qb in place they take off the kid gloves.

Cal Poly was a D getting gashed by the pass and like everyone against us stacking the box and running edge blitzes. I can see the temptation of trying to attack them with the pass but at the end of the day with a three score lead we should have ran the ball down their throat.

[Cataholic]

Did I miss it, or was there a hotties thread this week?

[cats2506]

A lot of really good QB's looking up at us in the standings.

Truth....Cookus is a perfect example

Add Maier and Barriere

[RobertCats]

A lot of really good QB's looking up at us in the standings.

Truth....Cookus is a perfect example

Add Maier and Barriere

Barriere isn’t playing late against sac state, down 27-34. Did he get hurt?

[grizzh8r]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

Did I say that? You asked for his record and I gave it to you..but keep trying for an argument.

Point is Bauman’s record is as good as Rovig’s.

Comparing records is a straw man argument. What matters is what happens between the lines.

At no point in any of his starts was I EVER confident that CB could hit a slant, curl, screen, or hit a RB in the flats on a dump off. Those types of throws in this style of offense are CRUCIAL to keeping the defense honest, the chains moving and extending drives. TR has proven he has the accuracy and touch needed to complete these types of passes, while also proving he can hit the occasional deep ball. This is why he was given the reins over CB.

#moveon

[RobertCats]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

Did I say that? You asked for his record and I gave it to you..but keep trying for an argument.

Point is Bauman’s record is as good as Rovig’s.

Comparing records is a straw man argument. What matters is what happens between the lines.

At no point in any of his starts was I EVER confident that CB could hit a slant, curl, screen, or hit a RB in the flats on a dump off. Those types of throws in this style of offense are CRUCIAL to keeping the defense honest, the chains moving and extending drives. TR has proven he has the accuracy and touch needed to complete these types of passes, while also proving he can hit the occasional deep ball. This is why he was given the reins over CB.

#moveon

My thoughts exactly, perfect post.

[coloradocat]

I could see the “bench the qb” talk after last game, I am amazed that it is going on after this game. Rovig made some grown man throws today, every slant he threw was catchable. He made one bad throw, in a critical moment, but only one!? People keep talking about how he doesn’t read through his progressions, Choate has mentioned TWICE during pressers that they don’t coach that. It may be because of experience and ability (or lack thereof) but he said they teach pre snap, first read if it’s not there go.

I wonder why they don't coach it. Is it above their ability to coach or above the players' ability to comprehend? All of our QBs are young but they are going to need to learn how to read progressions at some point or we're never getting past the second round of the playoffs.

I'm often down on Rovig for the same reasons as Bauman. Neither is a good QB at this point. They both have potential but sometimes it seems like Miller is trying to force it. If we know these guys aren't the strength of the offense why try to make them win games for us when we have a strong OL and multiple very good options running the ball? We have to develop them but the play calling just doesn't make sense sometimes.

This is the topic of a whole other thread but that comment took me by surprise too. I hope it’s a case by case basis and not an entire philosophy and when we have that “world beater” qb in place they take off the kid gloves.

Cal Poly was a D getting gashed by the pass and like everyone against us stacking the box and running edge blitzes. I can see the temptation of trying to attack them with the pass but at the end of the day with a three score lead we should have ran the ball down their throat.

Here's hoping we stumble onto a "world beater" QB on the recruiting trail.

[catsrback76]

Put BAUMAN back in

100 percent, it’s a no brainer at this point. If you give Rovig any pressure he makes mistakes and refuses to scan the field for guys running wide open, specifically the tight ends.

This is bs. He hit throws today with pressure in his face.

It’s not BS. He under threw his best WR in the most crucial moment of the game and it resulted in a pick.

There is a reason Jonsen took the snaps in OT.

Because he's part of the Offense?

And we run the ball incredibly efficient inside the 30...even more so inside the 20.

Yes, I get it, but there are some with an agenda here who are ignorant of the facts!

[bobcatbob]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

[Cat4LifeHouseDivided]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

[utucats]

Put BAUMAN back in

100 percent, it’s a no brainer at this point. If you give Rovig any pressure he makes mistakes and refuses to scan the field for guys running wide open, specifically the tight ends.

This is bs. He hit throws today with pressure in his face.

It’s not BS. He under threw his best WR in the most crucial moment of the game and it resulted in a pick.

There is a reason Jonsen took the snaps in OT.

Because he's part of the Offense?

And we run the ball incredibly efficient inside the 30...even more so inside the 20.

Yes, I get it, but there are some with an agenda here who are ignorant of the facts!

An agenda? No, you guys take this ignorant fan board to be more than it is. There is a group of people who have zero say but share an opinion and many of you get way to sensitive reading anything that doesn’t jive with yours.

I think our QB play has been ****** and half of you cried all year last season about TA and now we have what? All I want is an open competition until somebody proves that they are the guy.

The only real agenda I’ve ever had is the termination of Ash and that has proven to be 100% the right move.

[catsrback76]

Put BAUMAN back in

100 percent, it’s a no brainer at this point. If you give Rovig any pressure he makes mistakes and refuses to scan the field for guys running wide open, specifically the tight ends.

This is bs. He hit throws today with pressure in his face.

It’s not BS. He under threw his best WR in the most crucial moment of the game and it resulted in a pick.

There is a reason Jonsen took the snaps in OT.

Because he's part of the Offense?

And we run the ball incredibly efficient inside the 30...even more so inside the 20.

Yes, I get it, but there are some with an agenda here who are ignorant of the facts!

An agenda? No, you guys take this ignorant fan board to be more than it is. There is a group of people who have zero say but share an opinion and many of you get way to sensitive reading anything that doesn’t jive with yours.

I think our QB play has been ****** and half of you cried all year last season about TA and now we have what? All I want is an open competition until somebody proves that they are the guy.

The only real agenda I’ve ever had is the termination of Ash and that has proven to be 100% the right move.

5-1

[utucats]

Put BAUMAN back in

100 percent, it’s a no brainer at this point. If you give Rovig any pressure he makes mistakes and refuses to scan the field for guys running wide open, specifically the tight ends.

This is bs. He hit throws today with pressure in his face.

It’s not BS. He under threw his best WR in the most crucial moment of the game and it resulted in a pick.

There is a reason Jonsen took the snaps in OT.

Because he's part of the Offense?

And we run the ball incredibly efficient inside the 30...even more so inside the 20.

Yes, I get it, but there are some with an agenda here who are ignorant of the facts!

An agenda? No, you guys take this ignorant fan board to be more than it is. There is a group of people who have zero say but share an opinion and many of you get way to sensitive reading anything that doesn’t jive with yours.

I think our QB play has been ****** and half of you cried all year last season about TA and now we have what? All I want is an open competition until somebody proves that they are the guy.

The only real agenda I’ve ever had is the termination of Ash and that has proven to be 100% the right move.

5-1

No doubt. Thanks Choate!

[catsrback76]

Put BAUMAN back in

100 percent, it’s a no brainer at this point. If you give Rovig any pressure he makes mistakes and refuses to scan the field for guys running wide open, specifically the tight ends.

This is bs. He hit throws today with pressure in his face.

It’s not BS. He under threw his best WR in the most crucial moment of the game and it resulted in a pick.

There is a reason Jonsen took the snaps in OT.

Because he's part of the Offense?

And we run the ball incredibly efficient inside the 30...even more so inside the 20.

Yes, I get it, but there are some with an agenda here who are ignorant of the facts!

An agenda? No, you guys take this ignorant fan board to be more than it is. There is a group of people who have zero say but share an opinion and many of you get way to sensitive reading anything that doesn’t jive with yours.

I think our QB play has been ****** and half of you cried all year last season about TA and now we have what? All I want is an open competition until somebody proves that they are the guy.

The only real agenda I’ve ever had is the termination of Ash and that has proven to be 100% the right move.

5-1

No doubt. Thanks Choate!

Listen to your Coach!

[bobcatbob]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

Yes, I do wonder. I personally like Choate as our coach. I think he is great. His background and strength is defense though. We have really struggled with this QB position.

[Cat4LifeHouseDivided]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

Yes, I do wonder. I personally like Choate as our coach. I think he is great. His background and strength is defense though. We have really struggled with this QB position.

Yes, QB has been a but of a sore spot but do you think they are so bad they would overlook a guy. To me, it speaks volumes that despite our struggles with qb, he still sits at 3.

[bobcatbob]

Jonsen never passes. Beltran entered a QB competition and came out of it in 3rd place.

And Jonsen can't pass

Beltran has never been given a chance. It was always just between Rovig and Bauman.

Do you really think so poorly of Choate that you think he was given no chance in the competition? Give it a rest.

I really like Choate. I think he is a fantastic head coach. Would not want anyone else. However, the QB competition has been between Rovig and Bauman. If you have listened to Choate pressers and all the newspaper reporting you have not seen Beltran mentioned as in the hunt. Just say’in.