Kyle Brennan Bails on MSU

[kcatz]

The other issue not being discussed here is why Utah would take him back? If an employee leaves for another job, and then decides the grass was greener where he was at previously, why would you want that employee back. He's already shown willingness to leave once, so there'd be no doubt he'd certainly look to leave again in the future. It's the reverse situation MSU is in, but with the same logic - if you don't want to be, we don't want you here. I'm just more amazed Utah took him back. Oh well, live goes on. MSU will be fine, and I'm sure he'll be fine.

Maybe he never actually resigned from Utah. Assuming he gave notice on May 2, he would have still been employed as of this morning. Suppose he used this opportunity to get more money out of Utah?

[Triple C]

What's this guy's wife's situation? Does she have a power career that would be unsustainable in Bozeman or social concerns about moving to a small, isolated town? Call me a sexist if you will, but this reeks of spousal intervention.

It's clear who has the bigger pair in that relationship.

[BelgradeBobcat]

Ok. So I spit coffee at the Brennan has a mangina comment. Thank you

Yes! I had a similar reaction.

[77matcat]

She carries his nuts in her purse


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[77matcat]

The other issue not being discussed here is why Utah would take him back? If an employee leaves for another job, and then decides the grass was greener where he was at previously, why would you want that employee back. He's already shown willingness to leave once, so there'd be no doubt he'd certainly look to leave again in the future. It's the reverse situation MSU is in, but with the same logic - if you don't want to be, we don't want you here. I'm just more amazed Utah took him back. Oh well, live goes on. MSU will be fine, and I'm sure he'll be fine.

Maybe he never actually resigned from Utah. Assuming he gave notice on May 2, he would have still been employed as of this morning. Suppose he used this opportunity to get more money out of Utah?

Isn't the U of U AD pretty old. Perhaps they have him some type of assurance he will be the next U of U AD.


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[onceacat]

Maybe he and his wife saw this listing on Babcock by the Roost. I saw it on Saturday and about crapped my pants!

http://cbrci.com/real-estate/Property/2 ... n-mt-59715

Holy ****ing shi*.

It baffles me that people can afford Bozeman right now. Especially recent graduates.

You realize that the listed property is an acre in the middle of downtown, right? A comparable property in SLC is probably 5-10x as much.

[BigBruceBaker]

Maybe he and his wife saw this listing on Babcock by the Roost. I saw it on Saturday and about crapped my pants!

http://cbrci.com/real-estate/Property/2 ... n-mt-59715

Holy ****ing shi*.

It baffles me that people can afford Bozeman right now. Especially recent graduates.

You realize that the listed property is an acre in the middle of downtown, right? A comparable property in SLC is probably 5-10x as much.

I've been gone from Bozeman for a few years now but I didn't realize "just off of 19th and main" was considered downtown.

[LongTimeCatFan]

Brennan will NEVER get hired at another university EVER.

Utah owns him now

[bobcatmaniac]

Oh blame it on the wife or kids. He didn't seem very excited about the introduction, comparing him to Choate. He had enthusiasm. I wondered what was up. Maybe he let his wife know he didn't really want the job. Dumb move on his part. Didn't take long to announce Costello tho and he seems to be a better fit.

[wbtfg]

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[clawman]

Safe to say he won't have many friends left in MT.

What??? you mean no free lift tickets?? OMG now what?

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

Safe to say he won't have many friends left in MT.

What??? you mean no free lift tickets?? OMG now what?

Man, free lift tickets would be excellent!!

[ilovethecats]

This could be a huge deal, or not a big deal at all. just because he was hired doesn't mean he was the best for the job. who knows, in 5 years we might be thanking our lucky stars for this crazy turn of events.

I agree the timing of the whole thing sucks. but who cares. it's life. he has a family. you guys have never made a decision and then thought about it and your family and changed your mind? maybe they really did think this was a right fit, and then after further discussion just felt it wasn't right. sure, in a perfect world he would have been 1000% sure of his decision and there would be nothing that could change his mind. but then he thought about staying home. probably a potential raise down the road. affordable housing. and care for his son was probably very high on his list. I for one can't blame the guy for that.

sure, a guy making 185 grand talking about affordable housing seems odd. but he didn't say he couldn't afford it; just that it was a concern. and why wouldn't it be? it's not just about paying your mortgage every month. it's about putting away money. saving for college. and unfortunately for him, hospital bills.

maybe he didn't include his kids in his initial decision and didn't realize how much of an impact the thought of moving had on them? I don't know. I just know there are a hundred things that could have came up after he got the job. from my take, he's putting his family first. and while the timing isn't great, it sure as hell is better than if he made this decision 3 months, 6 months, 1 year down the road.

I for one wish him all the best, and for his family to kick cancers ass!

[iaafan]

You're a little late to the party ilovethcats. We all did that yesterday. (Just giving you a hard time.) Yeah, a person (not just women) can change his mind. It's OK now.

[VimSince03]

This could be a huge deal, or not a big deal at all. just because he was hired doesn't mean he was the best for the job. who knows, in 5 years we might be thanking our lucky stars for this crazy turn of events.

I agree the timing of the whole thing sucks. but who cares. it's life. he has a family. you guys have never made a decision and then thought about it and your family and changed your mind? maybe they really did think this was a right fit, and then after further discussion just felt it wasn't right. sure, in a perfect world he would have been 1000% sure of his decision and there would be nothing that could change his mind. but then he thought about staying home. probably a potential raise down the road. affordable housing. and care for his son was probably very high on his list. I for one can't blame the guy for that.

sure, a guy making 185 grand talking about affordable housing seems odd. but he didn't say he couldn't afford it; just that it was a concern. and why wouldn't it be? it's not just about paying your mortgage every month. it's about putting away money. saving for college. and unfortunately for him, hospital bills.

maybe he didn't include his kids in his initial decision and didn't realize how much of an impact the thought of moving had on them? I don't know. I just know there are a hundred things that could have came up after he got the job. from my take, he's putting his family first. and while the timing isn't great, it sure as hell is better than if he made this decision 3 months, 6 months, 1 year down the road.

I for one wish him all the best, and for his family to kick cancers ass!

When you are making the biggest decision of your career, you need to be 100% sure of your decision before even applying. It wasn't like he was applying for McDonalds and backed out at the last minute to work at Burger King. Being 100% sure isn't a perfect world scenario, it is a real world scenario. Of course I wish him and his family the best but he put MSU in a tough position over the past two days. I also blame MSU a bit here for not fully understanding the risk of hiring Kyle because everyone knew his wife and family had a really good gig down in Utah. The setup was perfect for them and for Brennan to take over for Chris Hill when his time was up as the Utes AD. From what I heard over the past week, Utah was never going to let Kyle go without a fight if he was hired. Then the news breaks yesterday and Brennan basically negotiated a better deal from the Utes by getting the MSU job. He used MSU as leverage the entire time to make Utah ante up on him. There is a theory for all of you.

[ilovethecats]

This could be a huge deal, or not a big deal at all. just because he was hired doesn't mean he was the best for the job. who knows, in 5 years we might be thanking our lucky stars for this crazy turn of events.

I agree the timing of the whole thing sucks. but who cares. it's life. he has a family. you guys have never made a decision and then thought about it and your family and changed your mind? maybe they really did think this was a right fit, and then after further discussion just felt it wasn't right. sure, in a perfect world he would have been 1000% sure of his decision and there would be nothing that could change his mind. but then he thought about staying home. probably a potential raise down the road. affordable housing. and care for his son was probably very high on his list. I for one can't blame the guy for that.

sure, a guy making 185 grand talking about affordable housing seems odd. but he didn't say he couldn't afford it; just that it was a concern. and why wouldn't it be? it's not just about paying your mortgage every month. it's about putting away money. saving for college. and unfortunately for him, hospital bills.

maybe he didn't include his kids in his initial decision and didn't realize how much of an impact the thought of moving had on them? I don't know. I just know there are a hundred things that could have came up after he got the job. from my take, he's putting his family first. and while the timing isn't great, it sure as hell is better than if he made this decision 3 months, 6 months, 1 year down the road.

I for one wish him all the best, and for his family to kick cancers ass!

When you are making the biggest decision of your career, you need to be 100% sure of your decision before even applying. It wasn't like he was applying for McDonalds and backed out at the last minute to work at Burger King. Being 100% sure isn't a perfect world scenario, it is a real world scenario. Of course I wish him and his family the best but he put MSU in a tough position over the past two days. I also blame MSU a bit here for not fully understanding the risk of hiring Kyle because everyone knew his wife and family had a really good gig down in Utah. The setup was perfect for them and for Brennan to take over for Chris Hill when his time was up as the Utes AD. From what I heard over the past week, Utah was never going to let Kyle go without a fight if he was hired. Then the news breaks yesterday and Brennan basically negotiated a better deal from the Utes by getting the MSU job. He used MSU as leverage the entire time to make Utah ante up on him. There is a theory for all of you.

well we are in the real world and this is the scenario we are in. so it most definitely a perfect world scenario. and it happens in every career path in the country. it just gets more attention in sports because people act like sports are the most important thing in the world. it's the same reason we see coaches accept jobs and change their minds. or coaching a year before leaving. or players leaving school after a year. or professionals leaving a job before their contract is up. it happens all the time. I could be wrong, but it seems to me him making this decision now is far better than making the same decision in a year.

and it's not just sports. I have a doctor friend in California that wants to be closer to home. he was 100% sure he was taking the same position in butte for more money. he told family and friends. he and his wife were looking at homes, and checking out the country club. he already let his current hospital know he was leaving and the hospital in butte know he we coming. then I get a call two weeks ago saying he changed his mind. at least for the near future he won't be coming back home. this is a real world scenario. not ideal. some parties may have felt a little screwed over. but in the end he followed his heart and did what he felt was right for himself and his family. but we don't care because he just a doctor. if he's an athletic director or god forbid a coach...there will be hell to pay.

I think we just got the guy we were supposed to get so i'm excited.

[tdub]

This could be a huge deal, or not a big deal at all. just because he was hired doesn't mean he was the best for the job. who knows, in 5 years we might be thanking our lucky stars for this crazy turn of events.

I agree the timing of the whole thing sucks. but who cares. it's life. he has a family. you guys have never made a decision and then thought about it and your family and changed your mind? maybe they really did think this was a right fit, and then after further discussion just felt it wasn't right. sure, in a perfect world he would have been 1000% sure of his decision and there would be nothing that could change his mind. but then he thought about staying home. probably a potential raise down the road. affordable housing. and care for his son was probably very high on his list. I for one can't blame the guy for that.

sure, a guy making 185 grand talking about affordable housing seems odd. but he didn't say he couldn't afford it; just that it was a concern. and why wouldn't it be? it's not just about paying your mortgage every month. it's about putting away money. saving for college. and unfortunately for him, hospital bills.

maybe he didn't include his kids in his initial decision and didn't realize how much of an impact the thought of moving had on them? I don't know. I just know there are a hundred things that could have came up after he got the job. from my take, he's putting his family first. and while the timing isn't great, it sure as hell is better than if he made this decision 3 months, 6 months, 1 year down the road.

I for one wish him all the best, and for his family to kick cancers ass!

When you are making the biggest decision of your career, you need to be 100% sure of your decision before even applying. It wasn't like he was applying for McDonalds and backed out at the last minute to work at Burger King. Being 100% sure isn't a perfect world scenario, it is a real world scenario. Of course I wish him and his family the best but he put MSU in a tough position over the past two days. I also blame MSU a bit here for not fully understanding the risk of hiring Kyle because everyone knew his wife and family had a really good gig down in Utah. The setup was perfect for them and for Brennan to take over for Chris Hill when his time was up as the Utes AD. From what I heard over the past week, Utah was never going to let Kyle go without a fight if he was hired. Then the news breaks yesterday and Brennan basically negotiated a better deal from the Utes by getting the MSU job. He used MSU as leverage the entire time to make Utah ante up on him. There is a theory for all of you.

I disagree that you need to be 100% sure before applying. The vast majority of the times, you don't get all the information on a job or a company until you've applied and gone through the interview process. If you don't apply, you don't get a chance to see the reality you'll be in. I personally don't care that he changed his mind. He MAY have been 100% sure in his own mind and even had some support from this family. A total life change can come like a complete whirlwind and you some decisions you tend to make in haste. But when reality hit and the process began, it may have become obvious at that time that this was NOT best for his family.

[VimSince03]

This could be a huge deal, or not a big deal at all. just because he was hired doesn't mean he was the best for the job. who knows, in 5 years we might be thanking our lucky stars for this crazy turn of events.

I agree the timing of the whole thing sucks. but who cares. it's life. he has a family. you guys have never made a decision and then thought about it and your family and changed your mind? maybe they really did think this was a right fit, and then after further discussion just felt it wasn't right. sure, in a perfect world he would have been 1000% sure of his decision and there would be nothing that could change his mind. but then he thought about staying home. probably a potential raise down the road. affordable housing. and care for his son was probably very high on his list. I for one can't blame the guy for that.

sure, a guy making 185 grand talking about affordable housing seems odd. but he didn't say he couldn't afford it; just that it was a concern. and why wouldn't it be? it's not just about paying your mortgage every month. it's about putting away money. saving for college. and unfortunately for him, hospital bills.

maybe he didn't include his kids in his initial decision and didn't realize how much of an impact the thought of moving had on them? I don't know. I just know there are a hundred things that could have came up after he got the job. from my take, he's putting his family first. and while the timing isn't great, it sure as hell is better than if he made this decision 3 months, 6 months, 1 year down the road.

I for one wish him all the best, and for his family to kick cancers ass!

When you are making the biggest decision of your career, you need to be 100% sure of your decision before even applying. It wasn't like he was applying for McDonalds and backed out at the last minute to work at Burger King. Being 100% sure isn't a perfect world scenario, it is a real world scenario. Of course I wish him and his family the best but he put MSU in a tough position over the past two days. I also blame MSU a bit here for not fully understanding the risk of hiring Kyle because everyone knew his wife and family had a really good gig down in Utah. The setup was perfect for them and for Brennan to take over for Chris Hill when his time was up as the Utes AD. From what I heard over the past week, Utah was never going to let Kyle go without a fight if he was hired. Then the news breaks yesterday and Brennan basically negotiated a better deal from the Utes by getting the MSU job. He used MSU as leverage the entire time to make Utah ante up on him. There is a theory for all of you.

well we are in the real world and this is the scenario we are in. so it most definitely a perfect world scenario. and it happens in every career path in the country. it just gets more attention in sports because people act like sports are the most important thing in the world. it's the same reason we see coaches accept jobs and change their minds. or coaching a year before leaving. or players leaving school after a year. or professionals leaving a job before their contract is up. it happens all the time. I could be wrong, but it seems to me him making this decision now is far better than making the same decision in a year.

and it's not just sports. I have a doctor friend in California that wants to be closer to home. he was 100% sure he was taking the same position in butte for more money. he told family and friends. he and his wife were looking at homes, and checking out the country club. he already let his current hospital know he was leaving and the hospital in butte know he we coming. then I get a call two weeks ago saying he changed his mind. at least for the near future he won't be coming back home. this is a real world scenario. not ideal. some parties may have felt a little screwed over. but in the end he followed his heart and did what he felt was right for himself and his family. but we don't care because he just a doctor. if he's an athletic director or god forbid a coach...there will be hell to pay.

I think we just got the guy we were supposed to get so i'm excited.

Well if I was the group hiring your doctor friend, myself and the community would definitely care if he changed his mind after accepting. All I'm trying to say is that blame needs to split here. When you are hiring a high-level candidate, you need to do your homework. Shoot, when I got my first career job, my employer asked me hard questions during my interview about my future family life (my wife was my fiancee at the time) and whether or not she was on-board with my decision. I later found out that they did even more digging on our old situation to our new one. These are risk factors that every employer needs to run through and consider when hiring a candidate.

So I totally get what you are saying ilovethecats but I disagree on this situation being a simple "brush off" scenario where a guy just had a change of heart. There is more to the story than the reasons he gave for backing out of the position. For the amount of money we put into the search firm on these candidates, we should have known better than to hire a guy who had a high potential to not want to leave his current job. It means he wasn't the right "fit." I'm glad we got Costello but Cruzado and crew need to learn from this. Nothing should be unexpected in these situations based off the money put into the search.

[Pecos24]

For the amount of money we put into the search firm on these candidates, we should have known better than to hire a guy who had a high potential to not want to leave his current job. It means he wasn't the right "fit." I'm glad we got Costello but Cruzado and crew need to learn from this. Nothing should be unexpected in these situations based off the money put into the search.

I would be interested to know how much the search firm was actually involved with this candidate. When the announcement of the final candidates was made there were to be four finalists. Brennan was a last second addition. Did he go through the whole process? I am guessing not.