Griz vs NDSU

Cataholic · Post by **Cataholic** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:07 am

Thin line between hero and hated. If just one play had a different result, the Griz lose. If NDSU ran the ball just one more time that would have removed another 30 seconds from the clock. Was that great coaching or luck? Seriously Lakeplacid, when he chose to kick the FG to be down by 4, were you saying Great Call Coach? I was actually pulling for a BSC win as well and thought it was a horrible decision.

Sportin' Life · Post by **Sportin' Life** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:45 am

Cataholic wrote:Thin line between hero and hated. If just one play had a different result, the Griz lose. If NDSU ran the ball just one more time that would have removed another 30 seconds from the clock. Was that great coaching or luck? Seriously Lakeplacid, when he chose to kick the FG to be down by 4, were you saying Great Call Coach? I was actually pulling for a BSC win as well and thought it was a horrible decision.

Without a doubt it was a thin line. The Griz faced 4th and goal from the 11 with 2:47 to go with a history at that point of one touchdown in 12 plays from the 11 or closer. There are not a lot of good options at that point. I thought the Griz should have gone for it at the time, but looking back I can definitely see the logic with the field goal. I think if the Griz go for it and miss, they lose a lot of momentum. It tells the kids that the situation was so desperate that that play was for the game and if we don't get (the very low percentage play) we accept defeat. The field goal says to the kids that we got some points from the drive and don't panic because there is still time left.

It is true the Griz got lucky that NDSU tried that pass on second down, but the Griz kept their time outs just for the time-killing circumstance. I think Stitt thought his offense could operate without time-outs and with very little clock. We'll never know if the offense would have been able to score with less time or not ....my guess is not, but we just don't know for sure. Honestly going in I was going to be happy if the Griz could just hang with NDSU, I really wasn't even letting myself hope for a victory.

lutecat · Post by **lutecat** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:01 am

Sportin' Life wrote:. I think if the Griz go for it and miss, they lose a lot of momentum. It tells the kids that the situation was so desperate that that play was for the game and if we don't get (the very low percentage play) we accept defeat. The field goal says to the kids that we got some points from the drive and don't panic because there is still time left. .

This is the only explaination I've heard for going for the FG that I can get behind. I still say go for the TD, but this would be a sort of acceptable reason.

Placidlakegriz · Post by **Placidlakegriz** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:45 am

Cataholic wrote:Thin line between hero and hated. If just one play had a different result, the Griz lose. If NDSU ran the ball just one more time that would have removed another 30 seconds from the clock. Was that great coaching or luck? Seriously Lakeplacid, when he chose to kick the FG to be down by 4, were you saying Great Call Coach? I was actually pulling for a BSC win as well and thought it was a horrible decision.

I wanted him to go for the touchdown, but I am not a coach. Know little about the game. However the two ex Griz players sitting behind me thought the field goal was the right call. Defense was playing well, three time outs.

Jobu · Post by **Jobu** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:53 am

FG was absolutely the correct call. You need two scores to win anyway. Take one there, trust your defense.

Otherwise you're faced with a 4th and 12 with the back of the EZ acting as a 12 defender, plus a two point conversion (no easy task against NDSU). I would bet over 80% of coaches take the 3 in that situation.

lutecat · Post by **lutecat** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:31 pm

Jobu wrote:FG was absolutely the correct call. You need two scores to win anyway. Take one there, trust your defense.

Otherwise you're faced with a 4th and 12 with the back of the EZ acting as a 12 defender, plus a two point conversion (no easy task against NDSU). I would bet over 80% of coaches take the 3 in that situation.

But a TD ties it. If they go for it and score a TD, their tied. If they go for it, and don't score and don't gain a yard, trust the D, get a punt, they have the ball around midfield and only have to go that far. Do what they did, they had to go much longer for the score. WIth time an issue, that counts for something. No coach is taking a 2 point conversion when an extra point ties it.

[cat_bracket] · Post by **[cat_bracket]** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:49 pm

Jobu wrote:FG was absolutely the correct call. You need two scores to win anyway. Take one there, trust your defense.

Otherwise you're faced with a 4th and 12 with the back of the EZ acting as a 12 defender, plus a two point conversion (no easy task against NDSU). I would bet over 80% of coaches take the 3 in that situation.

Did you talk to Stitt after the game? That's almost verbatim what he was telling people in the bars.

[cat_bracket] · Post by **[cat_bracket]** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:51 pm

lutecat wrote:
Jobu wrote:FG was absolutely the correct call. You need two scores to win anyway. Take one there, trust your defense.

Otherwise you're faced with a 4th and 12 with the back of the EZ acting as a 12 defender, plus a two point conversion (no easy task against NDSU). I would bet over 80% of coaches take the 3 in that situation.
But a TD ties it. If they go for it and score a TD, their tied. If they go for it, and don't score and don't gain a yard, trust the D, get a punt, they have the ball around midfield and only have to go that far. Do what they did, they had to go much longer for the score. WIth time an issue, that counts for something. No coach is taking a 2 point conversion when an extra point ties it.

Except Beau Baldwin.

Cataholic · Post by **Cataholic** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:40 pm

Great posts. I thought they should have went for it, but the reasonings above are legit.

Jobu · Post by **Jobu** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:24 pm

[cat_bracket] wrote:
Jobu wrote:FG was absolutely the correct call. You need two scores to win anyway. Take one there, trust your defense.

Otherwise you're faced with a 4th and 12 with the back of the EZ acting as a 12 defender, plus a two point conversion (no easy task against NDSU). I would bet over 80% of coaches take the 3 in that situation.
Did you talk to Stitt after the game? That's almost verbatim what he was telling people in the bars.

I don't think so. Not unless he was the drunk guy a few bar stools down from us at the G Sports Bar in Vancouver where we watched. I hear Griz fans say the guy's amazing, but getting up there in that short amount of time would be a pretty remarkable feat, even for him.

GRIZ1STCATS2ND · Post by **GRIZ1STCATS2ND** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:33 am

Jobu wrote:
[cat_bracket] wrote:
Jobu wrote:FG was absolutely the correct call. You need two scores to win anyway. Take one there, trust your defense.

Otherwise you're faced with a 4th and 12 with the back of the EZ acting as a 12 defender, plus a two point conversion (no easy task against NDSU). I would bet over 80% of coaches take the 3 in that situation.
Did you talk to Stitt after the game? That's almost verbatim what he was telling people in the bars.

I don't think so. Not unless he was the drunk guy a few bar stools down from us at the G Sports Bar in Vancouver where we watched. I hear Griz fans say the guy's amazing, but getting up there in that short amount of time would be a pretty remarkable feat, even for him.

I think he is focused. He works hard and he isn't too old to celebrate....and then get back to work. Don't count him out. From what I hear from the kids behind the scenes is intense. He's a cool coach. Deal with it.

Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU

Re: Griz vs NDSU