Quit saying "Go Griz"

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:19 pm

GFGriz wrote:
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
theblackgecko wrote:
WeedKillinCat wrote:I think THIS YEAR the Griz didn't EARN a home game. Prove your worth on the road!!
Griz: 3-1 against I-AA competition, and a loss to a top ten I-A squad.

'Cats: 1-3 against I-AA competition, and needed the last second field goal to get the win over Weber State.

All Griz games against unseeded teams are at Washington Grizzly stadium, as the NCAA selection criteria are based on attendance and bid amount, and no team currently in the playoffs comes close to Washington Grizzly's attendance. It's the NCAA that set the criteria, so lobby them for a change.

If the 'Cats would like to increase attendance, then I suggest that 4,000 individuals commit to season tickets for the next four years at $150 per year. That will give the athletic deparmtent sufficent funds to contruct an expansion where those fans can sit. Until then, quit your complaining.
So, yes, it was all $$$ because if there wasn't that variable in the equation, EWU would be playing at home and UM wouldn't.

That's not complaining, it's the truth.
Idiots aren't allowed to post on non-smack forums. Time for you to join bearbac.

At least you can identify one of your own in bearbac.

Swilly3224 · Post by **Swilly3224** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:46 pm

How many times must somebody say this....

Of course we got a home game because of money!!!! If all you bobcat fans are complaining then how bout you get more people in your stadium and then you might build a tradition that will get you into the playoffs year after year. You might be right about MSu being better than us this year as a TEAM but the Ncaa doesnt care about how good you are, they care about wins and losses and mose imporantly the 23000 fans that pack Wash-Griz every game

Go Griz

Cat in SoDak · Post by **Cat in SoDak** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:00 pm

Swilly3224 wrote:How many times must somebody say this....

Of course we got a home game because of money!!!! If all you bobcat fans are complaining then how bout you get more people in your stadium and then you might build a tradition that will get you into the playoffs year after year. You might be right about MSu being better than us this year as a TEAM but the Ncaa doesnt care about how good you are, they care about wins and losses and mose imporantly the 23000 fans that pack Wash-Griz every game

Go Griz

I don't think it's so much building as re-kindling MSU's football tradition. Has Montana done incredible things over the past 20 years? Sure they have and Griz fans should be proud. But prior to 1986, it'd be hard to argue MSU wasn't the school with more "tradition" with 7 Big Sky Conference and 3 National titles, compared to 3 and 0 for the Griz, respectively. My point isn't to be critical of Montana's success but to point out that we as Bobcat fans should be just as proud of our program.

Everything goes in cycles and there's going to be a day when the Griz aren't in the playoffs. Hopefully, MSU will be in a position to pick up the mantle.

Bozgriz · Post by **Bozgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:02 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
theblackgecko wrote:
WeedKillinCat wrote:I think THIS YEAR the Griz didn't EARN a home game. Prove your worth on the road!!
Griz: 3-1 against I-AA competition, and a loss to a top ten I-A squad.

'Cats: 1-3 against I-AA competition, and needed the last second field goal to get the win over Weber State.

All Griz games against unseeded teams are at Washington Grizzly stadium, as the NCAA selection criteria are based on attendance and bid amount, and no team currently in the playoffs comes close to Washington Grizzly's attendance. It's the NCAA that set the criteria, so lobby them for a change.

If the 'Cats would like to increase attendance, then I suggest that 4,000 individuals commit to season tickets for the next four years at $150 per year. That will give the athletic deparmtent sufficent funds to contruct an expansion where those fans can sit. Until then, quit your complaining.
So, yes, it was all $$$ because if there wasn't that variable in the equation, EWU would be playing at home and UM wouldn't.

That's not complaining, it's the truth.

Wow, are you really lobbying for a 7-4 team to HOST a playoff game over an 8-3 team??? Tell me you have some basis in fact for this...And remember, EWU beat an NAIA team too so they are really only 6-4 in Div 1 football...The Griz are 7-3...

I would argue that MSU deserves a home game before EWU...

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:27 pm

Bozgriz wrote:
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
theblackgecko wrote:
WeedKillinCat wrote:I think THIS YEAR the Griz didn't EARN a home game. Prove your worth on the road!!
Griz: 3-1 against I-AA competition, and a loss to a top ten I-A squad.

'Cats: 1-3 against I-AA competition, and needed the last second field goal to get the win over Weber State.

All Griz games against unseeded teams are at Washington Grizzly stadium, as the NCAA selection criteria are based on attendance and bid amount, and no team currently in the playoffs comes close to Washington Grizzly's attendance. It's the NCAA that set the criteria, so lobby them for a change.

If the 'Cats would like to increase attendance, then I suggest that 4,000 individuals commit to season tickets for the next four years at $150 per year. That will give the athletic deparmtent sufficent funds to contruct an expansion where those fans can sit. Until then, quit your complaining.
So, yes, it was all $$$ because if there wasn't that variable in the equation, EWU would be playing at home and UM wouldn't.

That's not complaining, it's the truth.
Wow, are you really lobbying for a 7-4 team to HOST a playoff game over an 8-3 team??? Tell me you have some basis in fact for this...And remember, EWU beat an NAIA team too so they are really only 6-4 in Div 1 football...The Griz are 7-3...

I would argue that MSU deserves a home game before EWU...

you are really 8-3 boz...lets not count in your victory against ft.lewis high

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:29 pm

I can't believe we're still even debating this. Yes, we man-handled the Griz. Yes, I personally think we are a better overall team than the Griz right now - but we were too inconsistent throughout the season. They didn't get it done against us or Eastern, but they DID get it done against PSU and CP. We had 3 D1 losses, they only had 2. Now, if they would have lost to Sac State AND us, and then made the playoffs ahead of us, and don't think that couldn't have happened! Than I would be REALLY pi$$ed right now. As it is though, they deserve to be there more than us based on the entire season...

Live4Griz · Post by **Live4Griz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:35 pm

Hell's Bells wrote:
you are really 8-3 boz...lets not count in your victory against ft.lewis high

How did a high school team score 9 points on you in 1998??

MSU Toddler · Post by **MSU Toddler** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:50 pm

how would you let a team that "let a high school team score 9 points on them" back in 1998 beat the almighty griz in 2005? wait wait wait - i meant MAN HANDLE the griz

oh - i like how the griz may schedule Carroll next year. had to wait until their star graduated before attempting this one.

Live4Griz · Post by **Live4Griz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:55 pm

MSU Toddler wrote:how would you let a team that "let a high school team score 9 points on them" back in 1998 beat the almighty griz in 2005? wait wait wait - i meant MAN HANDLE the griz

oh - i like how the griz may schedule Carroll next year. had to wait until their star graduated before attempting this one.

Hire a Offensive Coordinator named Rob Phenicie!!

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:38 pm

Thanks for the debate.

I have two gentlemen that work for me that play for the griz right now. They totatly understand my point of view. They are the same in they have two favorite teams: the griz and whoever is playing the CATS. I consider these guys to be good friends and respect them immensly, but they know that in my eyes, they suit up for the dark side.

It will not suprise them in the least to see me at the game with a CAL POLY sweatshirt on. I am going to the game this weekend becasue I was given two tickets. I hope CAL POLY kills the griz. I do not know if CP can get it done, hopefully MSU gave them the blueprint.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:10 pm

WeedKillinCat wrote:
The mark of a good team is one that can win on the road and I feel when the Griz play an equal or better team, chances are they won't win. I'd like to see their road playoff record..

cats played 4 games on the road and lost three of those game = cats are not a good team!

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:14 pm

MSU Toddler wrote:like the great divide trophy?

like a 16 - 6 thumping?

like the 2nd best iaa team in montana this year?

i'd be bragging to i guess . . .

How's that post seanson play working for the cats this year.

Have heard from many cat fans what a great honor it is to be BSC co-champs. Why isn't it good for the GRIZ also?

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:17 pm

Maybe because of your stellar 0-2 record against the other 2 Co-Champs?

MSU Toddler · Post by **MSU Toddler** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:19 pm

eastcoast

how does it feel to get man handled by a team that isn't going to the post season? how's that working for ya?

i was also wondering: did you go to the Oregon and EWU boards after the games the griz lose and tell them how great you are in an effort to feel better? just curious since it is REALLY old (only 72 hours removed) and pathetic.

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:22 pm

The griz were two pass receptions away from losing TWO home games this season, least we forget. One conference game and one non-con game.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:40 pm

94VegasCat wrote:The griz were two pass receptions away from losing TWO home games this season, least we forget. One conference game and one non-con game.

Could of,should of, would of... Shall we also talk of the cats close wins?

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:42 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
Live4Griz wrote:
WeedKillinCat wrote:I think THIS YEAR the Griz didn't EARN a home game. Prove your worth on the road!!
Missing the point Weed....it is what we have done over the last 13 years that EARNED us the home game. I know that is hard for you Cat fans to relate to but if you have a program like ours you will be rewarded. And don't tell me that you are all a little jealous of that!!

GO GRIZ
What was done THIS YEAR to warrant it?

8-3

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:45 pm

I suppose not, I was jsut pointing out that as big of an advantage of playing at home for the griz is, it darn near didn't work so well this year. could it be that the griz are just not a good team this year.

If you like to talk about close wins for the CATS, 16-6 will look like a close game on paper in 20 years, but for those of us that were there, we will always know that is was a flat out A$$ WHIPPING.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:52 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
Vs. Cal Poly, and with the W already this season, that logic simply would favor the game to be in Missoula.

Along the same lines, why does EWU, in essence the outright conference winner with their defeating the other 2 BSC co-champs, have to play on the road in what is one of the harder venues to win in Northern Iowa?

There is a process for unranked teams to host a playoff game. Did EWU out bid Northern Iowa? I think not.

The recent history and $$$ obviously decided this travesty. If you had the ability to remain objective with this question, don't you think EWU should be playing at home while the griz should be on the road this coming week?

Had playoff teams been ranked , we probable would have had a higher ranking than EWU, so the outcome would have been simular. Sorry there is no travisity here.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:54 pm

MSU Toddler wrote:eastcoast

how does it feel to get man handled by a team that isn't going to the post season? how's that working for ya?

Sucks, but can't be near as bad as staying home after man handling a team thats still playing!