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you dudes need to get out of Montana more often. So, using the words gansta thug is racist? Apparently you have never listened to a rap song.
Give me a freaking break sticking up for this kid. I get so tired of hearing what a "nice guy" some criminal is. When Vernon Smith pulled the gun, the Griz fans jumped to his rescue, telling us what a "nice guy" Vernon was, and how the incident was probably "misunderstood"
Get that sh*t outta here, both for GRiz fans and Cat fans. Quit sticking up for these brothers who get kicked off their IA team for whattever act of thugism, move down to IAA because no other IA team wants their troubles, then becomes an instant cancer on a prpoud NFL team requiring his being cut to keep things from blowing up with the team chemistry, after whining around about being benched for getting repeatedly torched and then fighting his teammate. And this is a "nice kid"?
You dudes need to grow a pair and quit sucking up to athletes because you are in awe of them. Criminals are criminals, whether they wear a football uniform or a prison uniform. Bad kids are bad kids. Joey Thomas is obviously a bad kid.
As for the comment about Thomas being "physical" on the playing field. I had to pick myself up from laughing on that one. Thomas ran the other way from contact. That dude never wanted to hit anybody. He an Vernon Smith are cut from the same mold. Both are thugs. To idolize them like you do shows me where your brains are at. Enough said. I don't back down when i'm right.
Give me a freaking break sticking up for this kid. I get so tired of hearing what a "nice guy" some criminal is. When Vernon Smith pulled the gun, the Griz fans jumped to his rescue, telling us what a "nice guy" Vernon was, and how the incident was probably "misunderstood"
Get that sh*t outta here, both for GRiz fans and Cat fans. Quit sticking up for these brothers who get kicked off their IA team for whattever act of thugism, move down to IAA because no other IA team wants their troubles, then becomes an instant cancer on a prpoud NFL team requiring his being cut to keep things from blowing up with the team chemistry, after whining around about being benched for getting repeatedly torched and then fighting his teammate. And this is a "nice kid"?
You dudes need to grow a pair and quit sucking up to athletes because you are in awe of them. Criminals are criminals, whether they wear a football uniform or a prison uniform. Bad kids are bad kids. Joey Thomas is obviously a bad kid.
As for the comment about Thomas being "physical" on the playing field. I had to pick myself up from laughing on that one. Thomas ran the other way from contact. That dude never wanted to hit anybody. He an Vernon Smith are cut from the same mold. Both are thugs. To idolize them like you do shows me where your brains are at. Enough said. I don't back down when i'm right.
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Joey Thomas gets cut for sticking up for himself and being competitive on the field. Then he gets compared to a guy that pulls a gun on people. Don't even go there Wolfy.Wolfman wrote:you dudes need to get out of Montana more often. So, using the words gansta thug is racist? Apparently you have never listened to a rap song.
Give me a freaking break sticking up for this kid. I get so tired of hearing what a "nice guy" some criminal is. When Vernon Smith pulled the gun, the Griz fans jumped to his rescue, telling us what a "nice guy" Vernon was, and how the incident was probably "misunderstood"
Get that sh*t outta here, both for GRiz fans and Cat fans. Quit sticking up for these brothers who get kicked off their IA team for whattever act of thugism, move down to IAA because no other IA team wants their troubles, then becomes an instant cancer on a prpoud NFL team requiring his being cut to keep things from blowing up with the team chemistry, after whining around about being benched for getting repeatedly torched and then fighting his teammate. And this is a "nice kid"?
You dudes need to grow a pair and quit sucking up to athletes because you are in awe of them. Criminals are criminals, whether they wear a football uniform or a prison uniform. Bad kids are bad kids. Joey Thomas is obviously a bad kid.
As for the comment about Thomas being "physical" on the playing field. I had to pick myself up from laughing on that one. Thomas ran the other way from contact. That dude never wanted to hit anybody. He an Vernon Smith are cut from the same mold. Both are thugs. To idolize them like you do shows me where your brains are at. Enough said. I don't back down when i'm right.

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So Joey gets waived from an NFL team and now he is a criminal? Joey did not get kicked off the team at UW, they wanted to move him to safety and he wanted to play corner so he transferred. I will be they first to say that Joey is not going to come up and put a lick on you, but thats not the type of physical we are talking about. Joey was physical in coverage. He never had huge INT numbers because his side was never thrown to since no one was ever open. You have no idea what you are talking about and I am now seeing why you were booted from that other site. You're an IDIOT.Wolfman wrote:you dudes need to get out of Montana more often. So, using the words gansta thug is racist? Apparently you have never listened to a rap song.
Give me a freaking break sticking up for this kid. I get so tired of hearing what a "nice guy" some criminal is. When Vernon Smith pulled the gun, the Griz fans jumped to his rescue, telling us what a "nice guy" Vernon was, and how the incident was probably "misunderstood"
Get that sh*t outta here, both for GRiz fans and Cat fans. Quit sticking up for these brothers who get kicked off their IA team for whattever act of thugism, move down to IAA because no other IA team wants their troubles, then becomes an instant cancer on a prpoud NFL team requiring his being cut to keep things from blowing up with the team chemistry, after whining around about being benched for getting repeatedly torched and then fighting his teammate. And this is a "nice kid"?
You dudes need to grow a pair and quit sucking up to athletes because you are in awe of them. Criminals are criminals, whether they wear a football uniform or a prison uniform. Bad kids are bad kids. Joey Thomas is obviously a bad kid.
As for the comment about Thomas being "physical" on the playing field. I had to pick myself up from laughing on that one. Thomas ran the other way from contact. That dude never wanted to hit anybody. He an Vernon Smith are cut from the same mold. Both are thugs. To idolize them like you do shows me where your brains are at. Enough said. I don't back down when i'm right.
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IMO- that was a racist statement, at least a stereotype. Joey is not a criminal and for wolf to assume that makes an ass out of you and me. This makes this board look ignorant and people who write things like this bring the whole education level of the board down. Wolf, I would appreciate a little better research before you get on here and act like you know what the f**k you are talking about. By-the-way, I am sure that joey doesn't give two sh*ts about what you think of him and he will show you that on the field.

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I'd like to hear your example of how Joey is a thug or a "bad kid." Did you guys go and smoke some homies because they weren't representin. Just because a guy drops down from DIA to DIAA does not make him a thug, bad kid or any other poor example of a person. If so, then I guess Washington from UM is a thug too, along with Murray and Miller for the Cats. Oh and I can't forget the biggest thug dropdown of them all...Craig Ochs. He was just trouble from the moment he came into Missoula. He brought nothing but gangs and violence there.



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Wolf, you and I have talked before and you know I have no problem with you voicing opinions even when nobody agrees with you. At this point however you are bordering on flat out lying about a person. That is not cool and not welcome. I could really care less if you want to hold on to that opinion, but at this point for once you need to keep it to yourself. Note that this goes for your opinions and statements about anyone, not just Joey.
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Wolfman, you are entitled to your opinon, but when you start making crazy claims that are not based on any facts I have to draw the line. You are being very racist whether you think so or not. I was going to point out all the areas where you are drawing your opinion from that aren't backed with any factual information but I can see that won't do the trick.
I am going to warn you to keep the racist comments off the board and unless you can show me where Joey Thomas has ever committed a crime, you should stop calling him a criminal. He didn't get cut from Washington he chose to leave.
I guess to make a long story short, this is a warning to you! Keep your emotions and opinons in check or you will not be allowed to post here. You will probably have a big fit but like it or not this is a moderated site and we are very focused on keeping things in check. Again, this is your warning. If you get too far out of line again, you will be banned from BobcatNation.
KMax beat me to it, but it looks like you have been warned!
I am going to warn you to keep the racist comments off the board and unless you can show me where Joey Thomas has ever committed a crime, you should stop calling him a criminal. He didn't get cut from Washington he chose to leave.
I guess to make a long story short, this is a warning to you! Keep your emotions and opinons in check or you will not be allowed to post here. You will probably have a big fit but like it or not this is a moderated site and we are very focused on keeping things in check. Again, this is your warning. If you get too far out of line again, you will be banned from BobcatNation.
KMax beat me to it, but it looks like you have been warned!
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rtb wrote:Wolfman, you are entitled to your opinon, but when you start making crazy claims that are not based on any facts I have to draw the line. You are being very racist whether you think so or not. I was going to point out all the areas where you are drawing your opinion from that aren't backed with any factual information but I can see that won't do the trick.
I am going to warn you to keep the racist comments off the board and unless you can show me where Joey Thomas has ever committed a crime, you should stop calling him a criminal. He didn't get cut from Washington he chose to leave.
I guess to make a long story short, this is a warning to you! Keep your emotions and opinons in check or you will not be allowed to post here. You will probably have a big fit but like it or not this is a moderated site and we are very focused on keeping things in check. Again, this is your warning. If you get too far out of line again, you will be banned from BobcatNation.
KMax beat me to it, but it looks like you have been warned!





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You DUDES are amazing! Obvious that you grew up in lilly white Montana, cause you wouldn't know a racist comment from a toad stool.
What does calling a person a criminal have to do with race? I guess I got Joey Thomas mixed up with another Bobcat IA drop-down who got kicked off the team for criminal acts. I'm sure some of you can provide the name of that player, if you haven't suffered from amnesia. I though it was Thomas, but obviously not.
I still say Thomas was a trash-talking brother when he played at MSU. I have seem him in the face of many receiver after the play. This isn't a "Cat-hate thing", Vernon Smith was the same way, and I hated it when he played for the Griz because he was a THUG.
Look, get your heads outta your *sses. Any rookie player who becomes an obvious disruptive element on an NFL team because he gets benched, has got some serious issues. Why can't you admit this, instead of painting Thomas as the victum because he was cut? NFL players need to keep their mouth SHUT, and pay their dues. You need to read the article which a poster included in this thread about Thomas. That pretty much sums it up, guys.
So, you're going to throw the "ban the poster" thing around here too? Pretty lame. Every time somebody posts something you don't agree with, you just ban him? Seems like i've heard that somewhere before. Don't be like the Hitler Youth Movement over on the other board. I have been impressed with your allowing fredom of expression, in this free society we all enjoy. Don't be like the same knuckleheads whom you make fun of on a daily basis.
What does calling a person a criminal have to do with race? I guess I got Joey Thomas mixed up with another Bobcat IA drop-down who got kicked off the team for criminal acts. I'm sure some of you can provide the name of that player, if you haven't suffered from amnesia. I though it was Thomas, but obviously not.
I still say Thomas was a trash-talking brother when he played at MSU. I have seem him in the face of many receiver after the play. This isn't a "Cat-hate thing", Vernon Smith was the same way, and I hated it when he played for the Griz because he was a THUG.
Look, get your heads outta your *sses. Any rookie player who becomes an obvious disruptive element on an NFL team because he gets benched, has got some serious issues. Why can't you admit this, instead of painting Thomas as the victum because he was cut? NFL players need to keep their mouth SHUT, and pay their dues. You need to read the article which a poster included in this thread about Thomas. That pretty much sums it up, guys.
So, you're going to throw the "ban the poster" thing around here too? Pretty lame. Every time somebody posts something you don't agree with, you just ban him? Seems like i've heard that somewhere before. Don't be like the Hitler Youth Movement over on the other board. I have been impressed with your allowing fredom of expression, in this free society we all enjoy. Don't be like the same knuckleheads whom you make fun of on a daily basis.
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Please just shut up, Wolfman. You're not going to get hoards of people fighting with you as you desire, we're just going to shake our heads and mumble the word "dumbass" to ourselves as we ignore your ignorant rants.Wolfman wrote:You DUDES are amazing! Obvious that you grew up in lilly white Montana, cause you wouldn't know a racist comment from a toad stool.
What does calling a person a criminal have to do with race? I guess I got Joey Thomas mixed up with another Bobcat IA drop-down who got kicked off the team for criminal acts. I'm sure some of you can provide the name of that player, if you haven't suffered from amnesia. I though it was Thomas, but obviously not.
I still say Thomas was a trash-talking brother when he played at MSU. I have seem him in the face of many receiver after the play. This isn't a "Cat-hate thing", Vernon Smith was the same way, and I hated it when he played for the Griz because he was a THUG.
Look, get your heads outta your *sses. Any rookie player who becomes an obvious disruptive element on an NFL team because he gets benched, has got some serious issues. Why can't you admit this, instead of painting Thomas as the victum because he was cut? NFL players need to keep their mouth SHUT, and pay their dues. You need to read the article which a poster included in this thread about Thomas. That pretty much sums it up, guys.
So, you're going to throw the "ban the poster" thing around here too? Pretty lame. Every time somebody posts something you don't agree with, you just ban him? Seems like i've heard that somewhere before. Don't be like the Hitler Youth Movement over on the other board. I have been impressed with your allowing fredom of expression, in this free society we all enjoy. Don't be like the same knuckleheads whom you make fun of on a daily basis.
It's pretty obvious what the gist of your comments were all about, and they were way out of line. To have to explain to you the nature of the obvious racial overtones in your post would just bring us down to the low level of discourse that you set with the initial post.
And in terms of racial awareness and what constitutes over-the-line comments/insinuations and what doesn't ... I am quite certain that I have more than enough insight to call BS on your refusal to admit that you were flat-out wrong in your last post, and I'm quite sure that most everybody else is right there with me.
And do NOT make comments about the other board with references like "Hitler." That's well below the level of respect we aspire to maintain on this board. If you get banned from this board, it will be because you proved yourself incapable of handling the responsibility granted to you by us to post on our board. It's all on you.
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whether you like to think so or mot, your commebts sound rascist. and i'm from g-tapps area, the twin cities. plenty of "brothas" as you like to call them. but just as rascist as i thought your first comments were, your next ones about how we are in awe of the "brothas" and we need to pull our heads out of our asses to see that they are thugs is even worse. why just the "brothas" as you put it? wasn't it just a few years ago that you had a few actual "brothers" who got in a little trouble for poaching? i think they were some white kids. and i think that the griz fans backed them up too. i agree with what you say about fans of both teams never thinking that anyone on their beloved team does anything wrong. but you picked the wrong guy. attitude on the field doesn't make a thug. and no matter where you are from....bozeman, missoula, minneapolis, or compton, your words were ignorant, and you backed those up with more ignorance. you pull your head out, and take a look at yourself dude.
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If he gets banned from BCN, look for some of his recruits to show up, shortly there after, and start spouting some of the same things he did. They won't be as well spoken as he was, but you'll know where they come from.Bay Area Cat wrote: If you get banned from this board, it will be because you proved yourself incapable of handling the responsibility granted to you by us to post on our board. It's all on you.
The underlying theme of these posts will probably be that they are selectively censored victims, and are being persecuted/banned for their objectivity, and not following the more popular poster's point of view.
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BozoneCat wrote:Wolfman wrote:Enough said. I don't back down when i'm right.
BozoneCat wrote:You don't back down when you're 100% wrong either. Of course, in your mind, you are always right. You may hate Baby Hack, but your arrogance is typical of most griz fans.[/quote]
You mean like most cat fans, right?
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I agree with a lot of your posts, or at least your right to post them. But I simply cannot agree with anything you said.Wolfman wrote:You DUDES are amazing! Obvious that you grew up in lilly white Montana, cause you wouldn't know a racist comment from a toad stool.
I still say Thomas was a trash-talking brother when he played at MSU. I have seem him in the face of many receiver after the play. This isn't a "Cat-hate thing", Vernon Smith was the same way, and I hated it when he played for the Griz because he was a THUG.
Look, get your heads outta your *sses. Any rookie player who becomes an obvious disruptive element on an NFL team because he gets benched, has got some serious issues. Why can't you admit this, instead of painting Thomas as the victum because he was cut? NFL players need to keep their mouth SHUT, and pay their dues. You need to read the article which a poster included in this thread about Thomas. That pretty much sums it up, guys.
So, you're going to throw the "ban the poster" thing around here too? Pretty lame. Every time somebody posts something you don't agree with, you just ban him? Seems like i've heard that somewhere before. Don't be like the Hitler Youth Movement over on the other board. I have been impressed with your allowing fredom of expression, in this free society we all enjoy. Don't be like the same knuckleheads whom you make fun of on a daily basis.
So when a rookie causes conflict (prove that he did, mind you) he is a thug, but if an 8 year vet gets in an argument, he isn't a thug?
Frustrated players play bad. End of story. I'm sorry that you want the NFL to be more like a girl scout volleyball match where eveyone is constantly encouraging each other.Wolfman wrote:I still say Thomas was a trash-talking brother when he played at MSU. I have seem him in the face of many receiver after the play.
Question - if race isn't an issue, like you claim, why did you point it out?
" NFL players need to keep their mouth SHUT, and pay their dues. "
" Every time somebody posts something you don't agree with, you just ban him? "
Think about those two statements and how they relate to this situation.
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You dudes are simply amazing. Do you realize that calling blacks "brothas" is what they refer to themselves as, and what thet WANT to be called? Black ladies are "Sistas" also. It is NOT a racist reference. Get out of Montana once in awhile. You dudes are so paranoid about "offending" the black race by use of the very words they use everyday.
For your information, my BEST FRIEND is black. He is my next door neighbor. I asked him to read this thread, and he is laughing his *ss off about your racist charges. I am probaby the least racist person posting in the thread, for Chris's sake! You boys need to get with the jive lingo, and learn how to talk in a multi-culteral society. Your accusations of me being racist are laugheable!
Don't get your panties in a wad because I confused Thomas with another Cat player who was kicked off a PAC 10 team for criminal activities, then signed by Kramer. I see that no one has given me his name.
You're barking up the wrong tree with this racist tag.. I suggest you have one of your black friends (do you have any) read my remarks and tell you if he thinks calling blacks brothas is racist. Perhaps you'll be enlightened.
Now, may we DROP this subject. Give it a rest already. Get some enculturation into that big world out there when you get a chance too.
For your information, my BEST FRIEND is black. He is my next door neighbor. I asked him to read this thread, and he is laughing his *ss off about your racist charges. I am probaby the least racist person posting in the thread, for Chris's sake! You boys need to get with the jive lingo, and learn how to talk in a multi-culteral society. Your accusations of me being racist are laugheable!
Don't get your panties in a wad because I confused Thomas with another Cat player who was kicked off a PAC 10 team for criminal activities, then signed by Kramer. I see that no one has given me his name.
You're barking up the wrong tree with this racist tag.. I suggest you have one of your black friends (do you have any) read my remarks and tell you if he thinks calling blacks brothas is racist. Perhaps you'll be enlightened.
Now, may we DROP this subject. Give it a rest already. Get some enculturation into that big world out there when you get a chance too.