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Welsch on Hauck (Chronicle)

Post by wbtfg » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:41 am

Is it just me, or does this article make you like Hauck, and Welsch even less? If I were a Bozeman Chronicle reporter I would go in asking Hauck tough questions, and clear up any rumors why the Bobcats don't like him.

Instead, Welsch decides to go in and suck Haucks a$$ for a while, and give us an article with very little substance, which makes me like like Hauck even less than I already do. He comes accross as very arrogant, and immature.

On the other side of things, it was a great idea for a story and I applaud Welsch for trying new things in addition to the standard football reports and player profiles.
Commentary: Hauck not so bad outside of rivalry

By JEFF WELSCH, Chronicle Sports Editor

MISSOULA - It is only mid-August, and already Bobby Hauck has produced his first upset of the season, if such a feat is ever possible with the the University of Montana football juggernaut.

UM's third-year coach has set aside valuable time, on the day after fall practice has begun and with so much work to do, for an informal interview in his spacious office with a reporter from, of all places ...

Bozeman.

And get this.

He's friendly. He's smiling. He's laughing.

He's as engaging as your favorite uncle.

When you've been weaned on a year's worth of spin in the Gallatin Valley, your first inclination is to ask this man, "Who are you, and what have you done with Bobby Hauck?"

You know.

The lemon-sucking lout who wouldn't give the other Big Sky Conference program in the state credit for picking its school colors, much less beating the Grizzlies.

The personality-challenged oaf who'd have his linemen push a broken-down team bus over the hill to the familiar Yellowstone River valley before ever leaving valuable dollars in, you know, that town.

The pompous egomaniac who won't return phone calls to Bozeman sports-talk shows.

The arrogant brat who would sooner sell his twin children into slavery than utter "Montana State" or "Bobcats" or "MSU."

Hauck tosses his head back and laughs at perceptions he's made little attempt to reverse.

"We have a little fun," he says, an impish twinkle in his eyes. "If you can't stir the pot and have a little fun ... when you speak of rivalries, we have a great one. It's special. So you might as well enjoy that."

This is not the Bobby Hauck they talk about in the Gallatin Valley.

This is the Bobby Hauck they know in the Bitterroot Valley.

East of the divide, those who put the rivalry on par with war, poverty and pestilence in matters of importance view Hauck as the face of the Evil Empire, leader of the infidels, the Great Satan himself.

And yes, even rational observers sometimes puzzle over what seems to be an excessive loathing of the land-grant school; of course, it doesn't help the image that he often looks on TV as if he's having his wisdom teeth extracted.

How can a three-sport star from Big Timber, for crying out loud, be so disdainful of his ranch-country roots, even if his father, Bob, a teacher and coach, was no more connected to ag and engineering as, say, the town librarian?

Hauck, dressed casually in a polo shirt and shorts, seizes another opportunity to massage the rivalry.

"First, I like to think everywhere in the state of Montana is Grizzly country," he winks, then adds: "And, I'm a third-generation alum."

His grandfather is a Griz. His father is a Griz. His brother, Tim, is a Griz and coaches UM's safeties. His uncle, Tom, is a Griz and coaches defensive tackles.

Truth be known, Hauck has pleasured in inciting the rivalry since third grade. He trash-talked by sliding notes under the doors of Big Timber teachers who wore the wrong colors, promising that "the Griz are going to get it done."

"Sixteen cousins went to school here," he says, "and most of their parents."

Yes, but surely, with all those ties to rural Montana, there must be somebody in the clan, somewhere, who proudly wears the colors of ...

"I think there's one cousin," Hauck says somberly. "We don't talk about him much."

He laughs again.

No, this isn't the Bobby Hauck we talk about, or perhaps want to talk about, in the Gallatin Valley.

On the east side, Hauck will never be forgiven for either neglecting or refusing to accord the home team credit for a 27-20 defeat in his first Griz-Other Guys showdown two years ago.

Never mind that he had stepped into enormous coaching shoes, the expectation of Big Sky championships, national titles and a full 23,183-seat Washington-Grizzly Stadium squarely on his shoulders.

That The Other School had ended a 16-game losing streak in Joe Glenn's final season only slightly eased the strain in a football-obsessed town where "you can never get away from it."

Now, after taking the Grizzlies to the Division I-AA title game a year ago, he is more at ease.

"It's much less stressful," he says.

Won't change his approach to the rivalry, though.

After all, he rightfully notes, it's only the coaching staffs at both schools whose livelihoods are on at stake.

For the fans, it is, or should be, a game.

Fun. Remember?

So, as Hauck is asked playfully about his unwillingness to utter The Other School's names, he skillfully, laughingly, engagingly tap-dances.

Then conversation turns again to Big Timber roots.

"Obviously, growing up down in that neck of the woods," Hauck says, "I had a lot of friends who were ..."

Yes? ... Yes?

"... MSU alums."

Stop the presses.

It's another mid-August upset, and why not?

When your program is above such possibilities on the field, you take them where you can, even with a reporter from the dark side.


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Post by BozoneCat » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:21 am

wbtfg wrote:Is it just me, or does this article make you like Hauck, and Welsch even less? If I were a Bozeman Chronicle reporter I would go in asking Hauck tough questions, and clear up any rumors why the Bobcats don't like him.

Instead, Welsch decides to go in and suck Haucks a$$ for a while, and give us an article with very little substance, which makes me like like Hauck even less than I already do. He comes accross as very arrogant, and immature.

On the other side of things, it was a great idea for a story and I applaud Welsch for trying new things in addition to the standard football reports and player profiles.
Couldn't have said it better myself. This article made me want to throw up. It could have been a really interesting idea, if Jeff hadn't been a pussy and just gone over to Missoula to suck Hack's ballsack.

This article did absolutely nothing to impress on me what a great guy Baby Hack is -- in fact, it just reinforced the feelings I already had. Jeff talks about how jovial and relaxed Baby is in his huge office -- well, no sh*t! That is exactly how spoiled brats behave, they are happy when they are comfortable and everything is going their way.

I know for a fact that many people in the grizzly athletic department do not like Hack - yes, I have talked to them and they told me this to my face or via PM. He is a jerk not only to Montana State and all things related, but he is also a jackass to his own employees and players. When the griz lose a couple games early this season, watch his players quit on him.


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Post by VictorG » Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:23 pm

BozoneCat wrote:[

I know for a fact that many people in the grizzly athletic department do not like Hack - yes, I have talked to them and they told me this to my face or via PM. He is a jerk not only to Montana State and all things related, but he is also a jackass to his own employees and players. When the griz lose a couple games early this season, watch his players quit on him.
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Post by 62GRIZ » Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:42 pm

Wow, I agree - what a great interview and what a great coach! I support him more than ever! Anyone disliked by a Cat fan has to be darn decent! 8)



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Post by 083190 » Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:08 pm

Confusing...his uncle is his cousin with sixteen kids? No wait..his brother is his cousin and has 16 kids, no that's not it. Let's see...his uncle might have 16 kids with some guy they don't talk about? Welsch needs to follow up on that family tree. It seems to have only the trunk



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Post by SonomaCat » Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:36 pm

If a Missoulian reporter had done a similar article about Kramer, would it be viewed as a bad article?



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Post by HeHateGriz » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:45 pm

Oh yeah...Jeff sucks...I miss the old days at the Chronicle...where the sports editor plagiarized, was given a second chance and plagiarized again. At least he never wrote anything favorible about the Griz. Somebody call Burger King and see if he's available to come back.



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Post by wbtfg » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:06 pm

HeHateGriz wrote:Oh yeah...Jeff sucks...I miss the old days at the Chronicle...where the sports editor plagiarized, was given a second chance and plagiarized again. At least he never wrote anything favorible about the Griz. Somebody call Burger King and see if he's available to come back.
I don't think Jeff sucks, in fact I think he's doing a great job. I was just a little disapointed in this article. The topic of this article is how we Cat fans don't like Hauck, and Jeff is pointing out that Hauck isn't such a bad guy. I would have liked to have seen Welsch address issues that we 'Cat fans have taken exception to in the past. I would have liked to have heard Bobby's view of MSU's football program and Mike Kramer. Hauck didn't deny his distain for MSU, or that he doesn't return phone calls, or that he's arrogant. None of these characteristics seem that positive to me.

Instead of calling Hauck on his attitude, Welsch decides to spin it the other way and talk about how jovial he is, and how he's such a great guy, and how everyone should love him.

I'm not sure what Welsch had in mind when he scheduled the interview, but it seems to me that he had no intention of asking Bobby any questions that might make him the least bit uncomfortable.

Jeff is as good of a football reporter as we've had in Bozeman in a long time, and I appreciate everything that he's done in the last year or so...I just think he didn't have to kiss Bobby's a$$ quite as much as he did in this article.


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Post by bobcatpride » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:16 pm

I was interested to read how baby hack was into the community and how he helps out with youth football........

Instead I read a very crappy article that solidifies the whole reason he is such a prick. We are all supposed to breath a big sigh of relief that Bevis said MSU. Well hold the press I guess he is a pretty cool guy after all.

Jeff is simply trying to establish the relationship in order to get a word with him in Nov. Nice try Jeff but his true colors will come out then and the door will slam in your face.



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Post by hokeyfine » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:57 am

lots of fluff, no substance.



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Post by Go Scats Go » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:36 am

Its funny how when a reporter disagrees with BOOBcat nation. hes a moron Idiot and makes you want to puke.

Mabey- Just MABEY the reporter was dare I say RIGHT????

Its a rivalry (sort of) and he has fun with it. Its relly funny that you guys fall for it and so caught up.

A simple question: If thats what Hauck is trying to do and you all fall for it

WHOS THE DUMMY???



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Post by mslacat » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:43 am

Go Scats Go wrote:Its funny how when a reporter disagrees with BOOBcat nation. hes a moron Idiot and makes you want to puke.

Mabey- Just MABEY the reporter was dare I say RIGHT????

Its a rivalry (sort of) and he has fun with it. Its relly funny that you guys fall for it and so caught up.

A simple question: If thats what Hauck is trying to do and you all fall for it

WHOS THE DUMMY???
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Post by CelticCat » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:46 am

Go Scats Go wrote:
A simple question: If thats what Hauck is trying to do and you all fall for it

WHOS THE DUMMY???
If Hauck is trying to be a pompous jerk, than dare I say he has succeeded quite nicely. I'll agree I got caught up in him being a jackass, he has yet to prove otherwise.

And what exactly are Cat posters disagreeing with? We simply wanted a more in-depth interview to get to the bottom of the rumors surrounding Hauck's attitude towards the Cats. We are just criticizing the article and the way it was done, not disagreeing with Welsh, because there isn't really anything to disagree with.


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Post by mquast53000 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:15 am

wbtfg wrote: I don't think Jeff sucks, in fact I think he's doing a great job. I was just a little disapointed in this article. The topic of this article is how we Cat fans don't like Hauck, and Jeff is pointing out that Hauck isn't such a bad guy. I would have liked to have seen Welsch address issues that we 'Cat fans have taken exception to in the past. I would have liked to have heard Bobby's view of MSU's football program and Mike Kramer. Hauck didn't deny his distain for MSU, or that he doesn't return phone calls, or that he's arrogant. None of these characteristics seem that positive to me.

Instead of calling Hauck on his attitude, Welsch decides to spin it the other way and talk about how jovial he is, and how he's such a great guy, and how everyone should love him.

I'm not sure what Welsch had in mind when he scheduled the interview, but it seems to me that he had no intention of asking Bobby any questions that might make him the least bit uncomfortable.

Jeff is as good of a football reporter as we've had in Bozeman in a long time, and I appreciate everything that he's done in the last year or so...I just think he didn't have to kiss Bobby's a$$ quite as much as he did in this article.
Couldn't agree with you more.

Jeff surfs this site enough to know the "tough" questions to ask Bobby. He chickened out.


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Post by IrishBobcat » Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:22 am

What I took away is that Hauck is saying he said it all and he stands by it.

Ok, that is what it is.

But what gets me is not Hauck, it is Welsh. Hauck's a good guy because he's jovial to your face about it? The premise doesn't ever get proven. Just an example of very poor writing.

Hauck is no different in the interview than he ever has been.



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Post by Cat Grad » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:08 pm

Didn't intend to post a response, but I get the feeling from most sports writers who happen to come from a "school" such as Mazzola that those of us from an actual college "Just don't seem to get it." Just one more condescending article trying to enlighten us "ignorant Aggies..." :roll: :evil:



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Post by El_Gato » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:12 pm

Precisely put, everyone. So Bobby is polite & funny when you sit face-to-face with him? WHO CARES??!!

The article does nothing to disprove BH's hatred of anything/everything associated with MSU. As a matter of fact, the article makes it VERY CLEAR that A) he loathes our university & our football program, B) he has no problem with anything he's ever said about MSU, and C) he has no problem knowing how much the Bobcats despise him.

Thanks, Jeff, for reinforcing how we all feel about the guy. Maybe now the griz fans will get a clearer idea and realize that most, if not all of the stuff we post about bobby's antics/attitudes are true.


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Post by jagur1 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:14 pm

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Post by GFGriz » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:42 pm

What a bunch of insecure, immature babies. I sometimes think you folks won't be satisfied unless Coach Hauck came over and burped you so you can feel all warm and happy about yourselves. I have listened to Coach Hauck since he came to Montana, and I have never heard him utter a word of insult to or about the 'Cats, and certainly nothing that compares to the hydrophobic rantings you all throw his way while describing what a horrible, nasty, mean guy he is. But here's a newsflash: Coach Hauck was hired to coach the Montana Grizzlies, not to soothe the tender egos of a minority of 'Cat fans whose self-identity derives entierely from whether the coach of their in-state rival talks pretty to them. Personally, I like Coach Kramer, but I'm not depending on him to make me feel good about being a Griz fan. If hugs from Coach Hauck is really standing between 'Cat fans and true happiness, then I can bet you're never going to be happy.



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Post by BozoneCat » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:52 pm

GFGriz wrote:What a bunch of insecure, immature babies. I sometimes think you folks won't be satisfied unless Coach Hauck came over and burped you so you can feel all warm and happy about yourselves. I have listened to Coach Hauck since he came to Montana, and I have never heard him utter a word of insult to or about the 'Cats, and certainly nothing that compares to the hydrophobic rantings you all throw his way while describing what a horrible, nasty, mean guy he is. But here's a newsflash: Coach Hauck was hired to coach the Montana Grizzlies, not to soothe the tender egos of a minority of 'Cat fans whose self-identity derives entierely from whether the coach of their in-state rival talks pretty to them. Personally, I like Coach Kramer, but I'm not depending on him to make me feel good about being a Griz fan. If hugs from Coach Hauck is really standing between 'Cat fans and true happiness, then I can bet you're never going to be happy.
Go pat yourself on the back a little more, you pompous asshole. I could care less that Hack openly despises everything even remotely related to Montana State, but don't expect us to like him or not get our feathers ruffled by the guy. He is a spoiled brat, and all griz fans should be embarrassed to have a guy like that representing their university as one of its most-public figureheads.

And for the record, you can bet that I'll be happy as long as Baby Hack is coaching the friz, because he will run that program into the dirt if given enough time.


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