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Topher · Post by **Topher** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:19 pm

I have to admit that the dUMb tagline is clever, and kudos to whoever came up to it. However, when I read the bashings on here for good ol' U of M, I can't help but wonder if most of you understand why the majority of UM students choose our school. When it came time to choose my college (UM), I did not have a whole lot of options. I want to go into Psychology, and when I went into the counselors office at my High School, the school psychologist basically told me if I wanted to stay in state I should attend the UM. You may get a ton of research money, but how much goes into psychology? By the way my counselor was also MSU alumni. Do you guys really think our school is a bad education? We have a great academic school, if you put forth the effort. MSU would be a great school to go to, but when it comes down to it, UM or MSU choses you, NOT vice versa. Unless you like sports waaaaay too much. Then maybe it works the other way around.

P.S. I don't care about how the athletes do academically, that's their own perogative.

briannell · Post by **briannell** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:44 am

both are great academically, I don't think anyone has ever suggested otherwise. it's just BOZEMAN is better

if you chose UM, for academics you chose to be a griz, BOBCATS are born, BOBCATS are bred, and Bobcats will be Bobcats 'til we're dead! Griz are just wishy washy, we're die hard, and that's my 2 cents.

-rebecca

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:38 am

briannell wrote:both are great academically, I don't think anyone has ever suggested otherwise. it's just BOZEMAN is better

Plenty of us have suggested otherwise, and I stick by that. UM does have some good programs, especially with graduate programs, but overall the academic challenge at UM pales in comparison to MSU. I think MSU has a better psychology dept. than UM does too - and no, I'm not just blanketly making that statement, I went and did some investigation when I got to Missoula a couple years ago. I couldn't believe the Grand Canyon-esque size difference between the pre-med program I graduated from at MSU and the joke of a program they offer at UM. Other programs, especially anything remotely science-based, followed close suit. I really was surprised at how easy they have it at UM.

eRat-a-Cat-er · Post by **eRat-a-Cat-er** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:31 am

briannell wrote:... BOBCATS are born, BOBCATS are bred, and Bobcats will be Bobcats 'til we're dead! ..., we're die hard, and that's my 2 cents.

Have to agree with bri...

Oh, I believe MS/MR Dink is unveiling the BoobyCat 2005 salute-n-slogan.

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:23 pm

Topher wrote:I have to admit that the dUMb tagline is clever, and kudos to whoever came up to it...

Thanks!

I have so much respect for the U of M that I thought bookends on either side of UM would give the emblem more of an "academic" feel...

Imagine my horror when I realized how it's being misinterpreted!

Remember, it's the smack board and all meant in good clean fun!

Topher · Post by **Topher** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:32 pm

I have to strongly disagree with you on the psychology department. I do not know the exact reasons why, but I do have a good example. A student in my psych stats class is the son of a professor at MSU, so not only could he have gone there cheaper, but his father is also a psychology professor there soooooo...Apparently they both know something we don't. (I did not make this up...that would just be sad) I am fairly certain that when it comes to psychology UM is the way to go.

P.S. I wish I could get into our grad program here, it is incredible.

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:57 pm

Topher wrote:I have to strongly disagree with you on the psychology department. I do not know the exact reasons why, but I do have a good example. A student in my psych stats class is the son of a professor at MSU, so not only could he have gone there cheaper, but his father is also a psychology professor there soooooo...Apparently they both know something we don't. (I did not make this up...that would just be sad) I am fairly certain that when it comes to psychology UM is the way to go.

P.S. I wish I could get into our grad program here, it is incredible.

How much did you want to get away from your parents when you were starting college? Ever think that maybe this kid wanted to do the same thing? You've got to be kidding me if you really think this kid's dad told him that his own classes are a joke!

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:46 pm

briannell wrote:... BOBCATS are bred, and Bobcats will be Bobcats 'til we're dead!
-rebecca

Breeding with a Bobcat thats KINKY-

I thought you only liked SHEEP!!!

BAH BAH BAH

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:36 am

Topher wrote:I want to go into Psychology, and when I went into the counselors office at my High School, the school psychologist basically told me if I wanted to stay in state I should attend the UM.

By the way my counselor was also MSU alumni.

Your counselor was a little contradictory… It would appear that they were able to stay in Montana.

Topher · Post by **Topher** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:34 pm

You make a good point about him being contradictory, but I must admit that he graduated back in the 70's. Psychology has changed quite a bit in the last thirty years, and is probably the fastest growing science. Thirty years ago I think a B.A. in psychology was good enough to find work. This is no longer the case, it is masters or find a new craft. In response to Bozonecat, Yeah I wanted to get away from home, but my love of money far surpasses my need for adventure.

Peace out

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:34 pm

I don't know about you, but I haven't heard anything great about the psych. programs at either school. I'm sure they're both fine which offer graduate degrees, but I don't think I would say that one psychology program is vastly superior to the other. I think they are both pretty average.

Also, I would love to hear what is different about the two programs.

Topher · Post by **Topher** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:43 pm

That is an excellent question, and I believe what it comes down to is UM offers more psychology courses than MSU does. I believe this is the biggest difference for Undergrad, HOWEVER the biggest difference is in the grad-student programs. UM offers a lot more here than MSU does. Since I am an undergrad that is a moot issue. If you look at the course catalogs I believe that number of courses is the biggest difference.

I do agree with wbtfg though in some respects. Both schools are state universities, and quite frankly you get out of them what you put into them as I am starting to learn.

Well that will have to do for now

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