Weekly Bierman Update 10-20-07

[cats2506]

http://bigskyconf.com/stats.asp?page=st ... M#conf.wi2

Through Games on Oct 21

Player Team Cl G Pos Solo Ast Total Avg/G Sack
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1. Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 LB 48 36 84 12.0 3.5
2. Jordan Senn.... PSU SR 7 35 45 80 11.4 1.0
3. C. Sarmento.... UNCO JR 8 50 36 86 10.8 0.0
4. Cyrus Mulitalo. SAC JR 7 LB 25 41 66 9.4 4.0
5. Ryan Phipps.... ISU JR 7 LB 32 33 65 9.3 3.0
6. J.D. Folsom.... WSU JR 7 25 33 58 8.3 3.0
Ty Sparrow..... WSU SR 7 18 40 58 8.3 0.0
8. Brett Shelton.. SAC SR 7 DB 28 26 54 7.7 0.0
9. S. Mennear..... ISU SR 7 DB 25 24 49 7.0 2.0
Scotty Goodloe. WSU JR 7 23 26 49 7.0 0.0
Tyler Joyce.... UM SR 7 LB 14 35 49 7.0 0.0
Clayton Swan... WSU JR 7 17 32 49 7.0 0.0
13.Jared Kuhl..... EWU SR 7 LB 21 27 48 6.9 0.0
14.Brad Rife...... ISU JR 7 LB 22 25 47 6.7 1.0
15.Joe Kenney..... UNCO JR 8 31 22 53 6.6 0.0
16.Mike Brannon... SAC JR 7 LB 25 20 45 6.4 2.5
KJ McCrae...... PSU JR 7 24 21 45 6.4 2.0
D.J. Craft..... UNCO SR 7 24 21 45 6.4 0.0
19.Bryan Jarrett.. EWU SR 7 DB 20 24 44 6.3 0.0
Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 DE 20 24 44 6.3 11.0

[tampa_griz]

You forgot the rest.....

SACKS Team Cl G Pos Solo Ast Yds Total Avg/G
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1. Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 DE 10 2 72 11.0 1.57
2. Greg Peach..... EWU JR 7 DL 6 2 51 7.0 1.00
3. Geo Simmons.... ISU SR 7 DL 4 1 36 4.5 0.64
Micheal Dorsey. PSU SR 7 4 1 27 4.5 0.64
5. Cyrus Mulitalo. SAC JR 7 LB 4 0 29 4.0 0.57
6. Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 LB 3 1 30 3.5 0.50


TACKLES FOR LOSS Team Cl G Pos Solo Ast Yds Total Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
1. Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 DE 9 7 71 12.5 1.79
2. Cyrus Mulitalo. SAC JR 7 LB 11 1 38 11.5 1.64
3. KJ McCrae...... PSU JR 7 7 5 29 9.5 1.36
4. Greg Peach..... EWU JR 7 DL 7 4 61 9.0 1.29
Mike Brannon... SAC JR 7 LB 8 2 48 9.0 1.29
Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 LB 8 2 45 9.0 1.29

FUMBLES FORCED Team Cl G Num Avg/G
-----------------------------------------
1. Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 4 0.57
2. S. Mennear..... ISU SR 7 3 0.43
3. Paul Bartsch... MSU SR 6 2 0.33
4. Ryan Phipps.... ISU JR 7 2 0.29
Cole Smith..... PSU SR 7 2 0.29
Micheal Dorsey. PSU SR 7 2 0.29
Chris Clark.... UM SR 7 2 0.29
Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 2 0.29


As noted earlier, the different positions these guys play makes sense with these numbers.

[twentythreeOh4]

First of all, they are both great players. I laugh at how some fans try to cut down the other team's player.

Several people have pointed out that comparing stats loses some relevance because of the difference between the two positions they play. However, one thing that nobody has mentioned is difference in defensive philosophies of the two teams. With Hauck's platoon system on defense, Biermann (and any other Grizzly defender for that matter) isn't in the game as much as Daly. Again some of that is due to the difference in positions -- most coaches rotate d-line more than LB's. If Hauck played Biermann as much as other coaches typically would, I have no doubt that Biermann would have another couple sacks and maybe 8-10 more tackles.

[AlphaGriz1]

First of all, they are both great players. I laugh at how some fans try to cut down the other team's player.

Several people have pointed out that comparing stats loses some relevance because of the difference between the two positions they play. However, one thing that nobody has mentioned is difference in defensive philosophies of the two teams. With Hauck's platoon system on defense, Biermann (and any other Grizzly defender for that matter) isn't in the game as much as Daly. Again some of that is due to the difference in positions -- most coaches rotate d-line more than LB's. If Hauck played Biermann as much as other coaches typically would, I have no doubt that Biermann would have another couple sacks and maybe 8-10 more tackles.

Best post in this thread. Agreed, and they are both good players

[BWahlberg]

You forgot the rest.....

SACKS Team Cl G Pos Solo Ast Yds Total Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
1. Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 DE 10 2 72 11.0 1.57
2. Greg Peach..... EWU JR 7 DL 6 2 51 7.0 1.00
3. Geo Simmons.... ISU SR 7 DL 4 1 36 4.5 0.64
Micheal Dorsey. PSU SR 7 4 1 27 4.5 0.64
5. Cyrus Mulitalo. SAC JR 7 LB 4 0 29 4.0 0.57
6. Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 LB 3 1 30 3.5 0.50


TACKLES FOR LOSS Team Cl G Pos Solo Ast Yds Total Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
1. Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 DE 9 7 71 12.5 1.79
2. Cyrus Mulitalo. SAC JR 7 LB 11 1 38 11.5 1.64
3. KJ McCrae...... PSU JR 7 7 5 29 9.5 1.36
4. Greg Peach..... EWU JR 7 DL 7 4 61 9.0 1.29
Mike Brannon... SAC JR 7 LB 8 2 48 9.0 1.29
Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 LB 8 2 45 9.0 1.29

FUMBLES FORCED Team Cl G Num Avg/G
-----------------------------------------
1. Kroy Biermann.. UM SR 7 4 0.57
2. S. Mennear..... ISU SR 7 3 0.43
3. Paul Bartsch... MSU SR 6 2 0.33
4. Ryan Phipps.... ISU JR 7 2 0.29
Cole Smith..... PSU SR 7 2 0.29
Micheal Dorsey. PSU SR 7 2 0.29
Chris Clark.... UM SR 7 2 0.29
Bobby Daly..... MSU JR 7 2 0.29


As noted earlier, the different positions these guys play makes sense with these numbers.

Great stuff Tampa

[Nick]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

[longhorn_22]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

[Nick]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

[AlphaGriz1]

That's all you got 22?

That is weaker than Giambi off the roids.

[Cat in NC]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

Like he ran all over the Cats defense last year? Oh, wait...

I meant the year before. Oh, wait...

Well, we'll see how bad Kroy is when Crawford breaks his ankles on one play and blows him up on the next. Neener, neener, neener! And my Dad can beat up your Dad.

[cats2506]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

I dont really think that will happen. Not saying that Hillard wont have his runs, but Daly gives better than he gets. Daly is all business, and is in on almost every play. He is fun to watch because you can just tell that he loves hitting people and he has an incredible sense of where the ball is. Dont worry though, Hillard WILL know who Daly is on his first few carries.

[Nick]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

Like he ran all over the Cats defense last year? Oh, wait...

I meant the year before. Oh, wait...

Well, we'll see how bad Kroy is when Crawford breaks his ankles on one play and blows him up on the next. Neener, neener, neener! And my Dad can beat up your Dad.

Hilliard wasn't in the game last year. It was his backup Thomas Brooks-Fletcher that took your defense for a ride......Literally.

And yes you're right - I can beat myself up.

[Nick]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

I dont really think that will happen. Not saying that Hillard wont have his runs, but Daly gives better than he gets. Daly is all business, and is in on almost every play. He is fun to watch because you can just tell that he loves hitting people and he has an incredible sense of where the ball is. Dont worry though, Hillard WILL know who Daly is on his first few carries.

It will be difficult for Hilliard to know who he is. Common sense: you can't see the name on the back of the jersey if the player you're looking at is on his back.....

[STREETCAT]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

I dont really think that will happen. Not saying that Hillard wont have his runs, but Daly gives better than he gets. Daly is all business, and is in on almost every play. He is fun to watch because you can just tell that he loves hitting people and he has an incredible sense of where the ball is. Dont worry though, Hillard WILL know who Daly is on his first few carries.

It will be difficult for Hilliard to know who he is. Common sense: you can't see the name on the back of the jersey if the player you're looking at is on his back.....

I would be willing to bet lex dosent get 1000 yards in the regular season. at 570 right now wont do sh1t against psu or msu maybe nau but probably not

[cats2506]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

I dont really think that will happen. Not saying that Hillard wont have his runs, but Daly gives better than he gets. Daly is all business, and is in on almost every play. He is fun to watch because you can just tell that he loves hitting people and he has an incredible sense of where the ball is. Dont worry though, Hillard WILL know who Daly is on his first few carries.

It will be difficult for Hilliard to know who he is. Common sense: you can't see the name on the back of the jersey if the player you're looking at is on his back.....

For the reading impared girz

When he is picking himself off the ground and sees a guy going away from him with his arms out, he will ask "Who was that"

[STREETCAT]

this guy will win the trophy if he keeps putting up the numbers

Eric Bakhtiari, DE, San Deigo(Senior, 6-4, 260)
41 TT, 15 TFL, 11.5 sacks , 3 QBH, 3 FF,
2 PBU

Wish we had two of him

[Nick]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

I dont really think that will happen. Not saying that Hillard wont have his runs, but Daly gives better than he gets. Daly is all business, and is in on almost every play. He is fun to watch because you can just tell that he loves hitting people and he has an incredible sense of where the ball is. Dont worry though, Hillard WILL know who Daly is on his first few carries.

It will be difficult for Hilliard to know who he is. Common sense: you can't see the name on the back of the jersey if the player you're looking at is on his back.....

For the reading impared girz

When he is picking himself off the ground and sees a guy going away from him with his arms out, he will ask "Who was that"

Actually on a stretcher they strap the arms in.

[Cat in NC]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

Like he ran all over the Cats defense last year? Oh, wait...

I meant the year before. Oh, wait...

Well, we'll see how bad Kroy is when Crawford breaks his ankles on one play and blows him up on the next. Neener, neener, neener! And my Dad can beat up your Dad.

Hilliard wasn't in the game last year. It was his backup Thomas Brooks-Fletcher that took your defense for a ride......Literally.

And yes you're right - I can beat myself up.

You realize that when you smacked back about you being my Daddy, you called yourself your own father, right?

[Nick]

Daly couldn't hold Biermann's jock.

That's because it would be way too small to even see.

See if you'll be saying the same when Hilliard knocks Daly on his @$$

Like he ran all over the Cats defense last year? Oh, wait...

I meant the year before. Oh, wait...

Well, we'll see how bad Kroy is when Crawford breaks his ankles on one play and blows him up on the next. Neener, neener, neener! And my Dad can beat up your Dad.

Hilliard wasn't in the game last year. It was his backup Thomas Brooks-Fletcher that took your defense for a ride......Literally.

And yes you're right - I can beat myself up.

You realize that when you smacked back about you being my Daddy, you called yourself your own father, right?

I'll take it

[grizzh8r]

this guy will win the trophy if he keeps putting up the numbers

Eric Bakhtiari, DE, San Deigo(Senior, 6-4, 260)
41 TT, 15 TFL, 11.5 sacks , 3 QBH, 3 FF,
2 PBU

Wish we had two of him

Don't wanna knock him, but you gotta remember the talent he is going up against in the Pioneer League.