Rolovich

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:40 am

SCREEN PASS

End of QB pressure....

END OF STORY

Learn it, love it, use it.

A few horrible play calls took away this team's chance for an upset, but...

SCREEN PASS!!!!

catsrback76 · Post by **catsrback76** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:28 am

Keep in mind that Jack only STARTED 7 games in his college career. I think Rolo did great as a whole. Can he do better? Sure and he will. I think that in terms of what he did with what he was given at the time of the year he stepped in was outstanding. He went 5-2!!! He led us into the playoffs for the first time in 22 years.

Not bad for a rookie He will only get better next year.

Good job Rolo and congratulations on your first year at QB. Welcome to the jungle.

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:40 pm

catsrback76 wrote:Keep in mind that Jack only STARTED 7 games in his college career. I think Rolo did great as a whole. Can he do better? Sure and he will. I think that in terms of what he did with what he was given at the time of the year he stepped in was outstanding. He went 5-2!!! He led us into the playoffs for the first time in 22 years.

Not bad for a rookie He will only get better next year.

Good job Rolo and congratulations on your first year at QB. Welcome to the jungle.

The issues with Jack and Cory are coaching. The coaches are not teaching the kids to get rid of the ball within 3-5 seconds. They are not teaching the kids to anticapte when a receiver will be open. They are not teaching the kids where the recieves will be on any giving play at a give time during the play. Both QB's have issues of finding the opening wr. (We could have had many big plays during the season if the QB's had more field vission.) They seem to be locked on to one wr and when he is covered, they panic. This all goes back to coaching.(Bailey) Lulay had the same issues of being locked onto to the primary wr, but he had the field vission to find the open man and guts to run the when he needed too. Of course, having some wheels helps in that department.

MAGOO · Post by **MAGOO** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:57 pm

What I'd like to see is Rasmussen designated as the 2nd quarter QB all next season, with Rolovich as the starter and finisher. That way Ras would have an opportunity every game to gain some experience, and Rolo will have this coming spring and summer to become a complete QB in the Bobcat system. Remember, Rolo has not had any significant game experience until this year, and it takes more than 1/2 a season to become a polished QB. By the same token, I do not want to see Rasmussen have to learn it all in the same season that he will be our #1 QB. If Rasmussen improves in the blink of an eye, then he can compete for #1, but I just don't think that will be the case.

Helcat72 · Post by **Helcat72** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:52 pm

I think the problem with the system is that we don't call a timing pass to a certain player...we call a play where there is a first second and third option. Jack however has a hard time making up his mind as to which option to take. Is this guy really open?... maybe I should go with door number two...oops I had better get out of here or I'm gonna get hit. By the time he makes up his mind it's a broken play and he heaves it deep. sometimes someone is open out there and he throws a really good deep ball. He has to learn what "open" looks like!

bcats · Post by **bcats** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:57 pm

I think you go into spring with the QB job open. Make these three guys compete and really put some pressure on them. The best QB will emerge and give MSU the best chance to win. Rolo has a great arm but isn't making the reads required at this level. If you watch him play he double clutches the ball way to much and he gets happy feet. People were open and he didn't make the reads or the throws when they were there. He didn't get much help from the o-line and the play calling.

Cory makes decent reads but doesn't take enough risks down field. With a strong running game he would be the best choice. We didn't have much of a running game this year and who knows how durable our backs can be next year.

Rasmussen seems to be the most hyped QB in MSU history. This kid hasn't played a down at the college level but a lot of people within the program believe he can take the Cats to the next level. I don't know if you can start him above the elder canidates but I for one can't wait to see him play.

If the coaches make decision I hope it isn't based on foolish pride like some of the other (roll punt) decisions they have made.

crazycat · Post by **crazycat** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:03 pm

I say get is brother in here to help him out. That guy was a stud at Hawaii. Nick was his name, I think. C'mon Nick your bro needs help, our coaches need help. If you reading this, please help. Take a one year sabbatical from your job and come to Bozeman this spring and line us up.

Gordo · Post by **Gordo** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:06 pm

crazycat wrote:I say get is brother in here to help him out. That guy was a stud at Hawaii. Nick was his name, I think. C'mon Nick your bro needs help, our coaches need help. If you reading this, please help. Take a one year sabbatical from your job and come to Bozeman this spring and line us up.

BTW- I caught the Hawaii game on ESPN last night and that is an impressive offense. I can't help but feel that we don't have an identity of offense. One week we try to be a power running team and the next week we try to run the spread offense. Let's just pick an offense and go with it. And if it is the spread offense, let's run it just like Hawaii runs it, spread it wide every play even in running situations.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:00 pm

i would like to appoligise for my statement about rolo. he is a good competator and we would not have been in the playoffs without him

hb

grizzh8r · Post by **grizzh8r** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:54 pm

poorgriz wrote:I am sorry, but Rolo and Carpenter better get ready for the bench next year. If this is all we can get at QB, then the program is heading in the wrong direction. And another thing for Mr. Kramer, though I know he will never read this, but get a real punter. You make yourself, your program, your team, your mother, your fans, the city of Bozeman, the state of Montana, and everything else in this world look bad with that gay-ass rugby roll punt. Use a scholarship and get some good special teams people. Why do you think Hauck is a better coach then you, because he sees the importance of special teams. The guy never even played football and he gets this more than you do Kramer. Good call on the first play of the fourth. I won't even go there or I will get kicked-off the Nation.

FWIW poorgriz, Hauck has used the roll punt at times this year too. That kind of throws a wrench in your analysis....

Post by **SonomaCat** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:58 pm

But to his credit, he does it as a bit of surprise, and doesn't commit to doing it on every single punt ... except the punts when we put Rolo in to fake it.

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:39 pm

Helcat72 wrote:I think the problem with the system is that we don't call a timing pass to a certain player...we call a play where there is a first second and third option. Jack however has a hard time making up his mind as to which option to take. Is this guy really open?... maybe I should go with door number two...oops I had better get out of here or I'm gonna get hit. By the time he makes up his mind it's a broken play and he heaves it deep. sometimes someone is open out there and he throws a really good deep ball. He has to learn what "open" looks like!

Helcat72,
You're a QBC member correct? If I'm not thinking this through correctly please correct me. But, here's what I've picked up from listening to Kramer this week in giving assessments of our QB's at Coach's Corner meetings.
1) The quarterback comes up to the line of scrimmage and he and the WR's are responsible for reading the defensive set. I had heard Coach K mention several times that based upon that read, the QB's mind should be set. Now, as the play takes off, the WR's have routes that require a read on a particular defensive player: if he goes one way, the receiver reacts and goes another. A case in point here is the play against Furman in which Kramer talked about last week. In the play Jefferson had to read the safety's shoulders and either go right or left. As the play started Jefferson went the wrong way and Jack ended up throwing the pass to Taito for a short gain. But, Jack went right over and talked it over with Jefferson to let him know. Evidently if Jefferson had gone the right way, it would have been a huge gain.
So, back to the point. I think that the QB and WR's are required to make several assessments at the line of scrimmage as to where they need to be. I think that Jack will continue to progress in this aspect. I think this is also why we tend to see our offense struggle in early season games because the QB and WR's are not yet reading the play the same.

Helcat72 comments?

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:41 pm

It seems to me that Rolo kind of got thrown to the dogs at the first part of the game (and nominal adjustments at half). Being the genious that I am, I think it would take about 30 seconds of tape on App State to see that their D line was going to be all over our QB right from the git go. Seems like it would have made sense to have a back pocket full of quick hitters (maybe even scripted plays in the first quarter), screens, and delays. Bailey kind of figured it out later, but it was kind of a struggle. We kind of acted like we had no idea of what kind of defense (ie talent wise) we would be facing. Focus all week in practice should have been on making sure the ball was consistently delivered (or gotten rid of) on time.

I still love Rolo's arm. Tough game, but think everybody learned alot. Enjoyed the season and am overall thankfull for the team's and coaching staff's effort!!

bobcatmaniac · Post by **bobcatmaniac** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:44 am

Did we forget that Rolo was injured not long ago? What did he do to his abs? Pull, tear or something. I doubt if many qb's would be out there giving 100% this soon after an injury.

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:49 am

bobcatmaniac wrote:Did we forget that Rolo was injured not long ago? What did he do to his abs? Pull, tear or something. I doubt if many qb's would be out there giving 100% this soon after an injury.

But if his injury was serious enough to affect his performance that much than he shouldn't have been on the field. Cory was back and ready to play so it isn't like we didn't have anyone to play the position.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:09 am

WYCAT wrote:
bobcatmaniac wrote:Did we forget that Rolo was injured not long ago? What did he do to his abs? Pull, tear or something. I doubt if many qb's would be out there giving 100% this soon after an injury.
But if his injury was serious enough to affect his performance that much than he shouldn't have been on the field. Cory was back and ready to play so it isn't like we didn't have anyone to play the position.

torn oblique (sp?) muscle? anyone who knows medicine can tell me exactly how much that will affect performance?

LTown Cat · Post by **LTown Cat** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:01 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:But to his credit, he does it as a bit of surprise, and doesn't commit to doing it on every single punt ... except the punts when we put Rolo in to fake it.

Not to mention that the main reason they do it is because their punter is one of the best athletes on their team. They let him do that as a chance to make a play, which he did do, several times this year.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:03 pm

I just want to say I'm happy with Rolo and how he played this year. He led us to a playoff victory (something only three other bobcats qb's can say) and was 5-2 as a starter with a couple GREAT games where he carried us.

To those criticizing Rolo I say to you what a friend's girlfriend told him when he was getting on Swogger, "get your fat white ass out there and do better."

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:24 pm

The only knock I'll put on Jack for Saturday's performance came mostly in the second half.

After getting knocked around a bunch early, I thought the line started doing a very good job of forcing the outside rush AROUND Jack, to the outside, giving him room to step up & still have time, which he did a ton in the second half, BUT...

After eluding that initial rush by stepping up, he continued to hold the ball too long. Once you've had time to drop back, set up, then step up in the pocket, a QB MUST realize that he has run out of time and either A) take off up the field, B) attempt a pass to a receiver immediately, or C) throw the ball away. On a # of plays in the second half, Jack did a nice job stepping up, IMO, but then he still held the ball too long and would take the sack.

I think we're fine at the QB spot with any of the guys we've currently got, so long as they spend the next 9 months learning and getting better. Jack definitely has to learn to accept the underneath, safety-valve, dump-off passes when his deep-threat is covered; too many times this season he just "let 'er fly" deep, hoping his guy would make a play for him. Sometimes they did, but most often, they did not.

IF Jack can learn to move off his deep target and accept the shorter routes quickly, I still think he'll be a solid QB. If he insists on constantly looking for the home run ball, however, the job may go to someone else...

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:25 pm

We also can't say that the coaches are not teaching these guys what they need unless you go to every practice. They may be teaching and they are just not getting it. I think we do have a very complicated offense that requires reads. Sometimes we need to just simplify it. One of the Griz was quoted in the paper that Sat. they ran the same play 4 times in a row, because S. Ill. was not stopping it.

Sat. we started rattled, adjusted and calmed down, found a running game and then like usual abandoned it at the wrong time. Mason had a heck of a game but needed 30 carries instead of 19. If we do that in the 4th quarter it would have been a heck of a finish.

My only legitimate complaint on Rolo is the several times he broke the pocket and chose not to run. Instead he went laterally and took the sack rather than throwing out of bounds.

Rolovich

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