Last Dynasty

[Cat-theotherwhitemeat]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

And that is the same reason why Hauck's two home playoff losses stink so much. We were not only the better team, but we had the great Wash/Griz homefield advantage, which is the biggest homefield advantage in all of Div. I footballl! Yet, Bobby still finds a way to lose. Precisely why I do not like him as a coach. He sucks in big games...i.e. Cats, playoffs.

IMO, Cal Poly was simply the better team last year.

[STREETCAT]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

And that is the same reason why Hauck's two home playoff losses stink so much. We were not only the better team, but we had the great Wash/Griz homefield advantage, which is the biggest homefield advantage in all of Div. I footballl! Yet, Bobby still finds a way to lose. Precisely why I do not like him as a coach. He sucks in big games...i.e. Cats, playoffs.

IMO, Cal Poly was simply the better team last year.

You must have missed the game during the season then

[Cat-theotherwhitemeat]

Streetcat, are you saying the better team always wins every game? I was at that game. The Griz won, but Cal Poly was clearly better. I knew going into that playoff game that the Griz were the underdog.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

Or they outbid the Griz? Playoffs remember ... not payoffs

[CARDIAC_CATS]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

And that is the same reason why Hauck's two home playoff losses stink so much. We were not only the better team, but we had the great Wash/Griz homefield advantage, which is the biggest homefield advantage in all of Div. I footballl! Yet, Bobby still finds a way to lose. Precisely why I do not like him as a coach. He sucks in big games...i.e. Cats, playoffs.

IMO, Cal Poly was simply the better team last year.

Overall Cal Poly was clearly the better team on both sides of the ball last year. Their D was ROCK solid.

[Griz Dude]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

And that is the same reason why Hauck's two home playoff losses stink so much. We were not only the better team, but we had the great Wash/Griz homefield advantage, which is the biggest homefield advantage in all of Div. I footballl! Yet, Bobby still finds a way to lose. Precisely why I do not like him as a coach. He sucks in big games...i.e. Cats, playoffs.

IMO, Cal Poly was simply the better team last year.

Overall Cal Poly was clearly the better team on both sides of the ball last year. Their D was ROCK solid.

I don't buy it for a minute. They just had better coaching than Hauck/staff. They learned how to make adjustments in their first meeting with us, and made them them when they played us again. Remember, Hammerschmidt of Cal Poly was our D-coordinator the year before. He knows how to defend Phen-Phen ball. Our coaches could not impliment the strategy to counteract what they were doing. I was at both games. We had much better overall talent than Poly.

I suppose you are going to tell me that the reason the Bobcats embarrassed the Griz last year was because of their superior talent also. Give me a break. Kramer outcoaches Hauck every year. It will be no different this year.

[DriftCat]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

And that is the same reason why Hauck's two home playoff losses stink so much. We were not only the better team, but we had the great Wash/Griz homefield advantage, which is the biggest homefield advantage in all of Div. I footballl! Yet, Bobby still finds a way to lose. Precisely why I do not like him as a coach. He sucks in big games...i.e. Cats, playoffs.

IMO, Cal Poly was simply the better team last year.

Overall Cal Poly was clearly the better team on both sides of the ball last year. Their D was ROCK solid.

I don't buy it for a minute. They just had better coaching than Hauck/staff. They learned how to make adjustments in their first meeting with us, and made them them when they played us again. Remember, Hammerschmidt of Cal Poly was our D-coordinator the year before. He knows how to defend Phen-Phen ball. Our coaches could not impliment the strategy to counteract what they were doing. I was at both games. We had much better overall talent than Poly.

I suppose you are going to tell me that the reason the Bobcats embarrassed the Griz last year was because of their superior talent also. Give me a break. Kramer outcoaches Hauck every year. It will be no different this year.

Yes. We were more talented than the Griz last year. It's the same this year only more so.

[Catfan2030]

As some of you might know, I've been a proponent of the Grizzlies makinga move to I-A, more specifically to the WAC. This articles reaffirms my desire and I'll tell you why. I miss watching the Griz play Idaho, Boise State, and Nevada. The fact that they are no longer in the Big Sky is a huge reason why the Grizzlies have had so much success.

So basically, the conference takes a dive in quality and UM takes advantage. Sure, it looks great and all, but what would this article look like if they had stayed. Would it even be about the Griz, or the Broncos. I wish the Griz were I-A, for no other reason that we would play with the old gang again.

Both MSU and UM could compete right away in the WAC. Every time I watch a game on TV I can't help but think....In the WAC, we would have better competition, better TV coverage (more games on ESPN2 and such), and better refs.

I know this will never happen no matter how much we talk about it but I still mouth off.

I have a feeling this type of thing will happen sometime in the future because UM cant possibly stay with the BSC forever with the success they have......and even at MSU we are making some big things happen which could mean a move in maybe 10 years at the rate they are both going. Not trying to start another "should we move to 1A thing" but i think its more of a question of when than if. I mean these plans to change all of the facilities at UM and MSU is rediculous. Its hard to think that they are making all these adjustments for no reason. Plus im with you, it would be sweet to be watching the old games with teams like Boise State and Nevada!

[Swilly3224]

I had no idea the Griz were 2-10 in road playoff games. Just goes to prove there's a definite home field advantage at WaGriz....

I think the 2-10 record must include championship games, because I don't remember the Griz ever winning a road playoff game other than the two title games (and I'm pretty sure they haven't played twelve road playoff games unless you count title games, as well).

I've made this point before, though, on different boards -- I think the Griz road playoff record is a little deceptive as a measure of the homefield advantage at Wa Griz. One thing you have to remember about those road playoff losses is that a lot of them came against teams who were simply vastly superior to ours in those years (Ga. Southern in 1989, Marshall in 1996, the loss @ Youngstown State in I don't remember what year; the 1998 loss to W. Illinois), and we probably would've lost those games even if they had been in Missoula. I'm not saying there isn't a huge homefield advantage in Missoula; I'm just saying that the 2-10 road playoff record should be looked at in the proper perspective.

There's a reason why we were on the road in a lot of those games, and it's because the other team was simply better than we were and had earned homefield advantage.

And that is the same reason why Hauck's two home playoff losses stink so much. We were not only the better team, but we had the great Wash/Griz homefield advantage, which is the biggest homefield advantage in all of Div. I footballl! Yet, Bobby still finds a way to lose. Precisely why I do not like him as a coach. He sucks in big games...i.e. Cats, playoffs.

IMO, Cal Poly was simply the better team last year.

Overall Cal Poly was clearly the better team on both sides of the ball last year. Their D was ROCK solid.

I don't buy it for a minute. They just had better coaching than Hauck/staff. They learned how to make adjustments in their first meeting with us, and made them them when they played us again. Remember, Hammerschmidt of Cal Poly was our D-coordinator the year before. He knows how to defend Phen-Phen ball. Our coaches could not impliment the strategy to counteract what they were doing. I was at both games. We had much better overall talent than Poly.

I suppose you are going to tell me that the reason the Bobcats embarrassed the Griz last year was because of their superior talent also. Give me a break. Kramer outcoaches Hauck every year. It will be no different this year.

Yes. We were more talented than the Griz last year. It's the same this year only more so.

Are you serious?

[JahGriz]

I'd say the cats were more talented than the Griz last year. But not this year.

[GrizinWashington]

Yes. We were more talented than the Griz last year. It's the same this year only more so.

Well, if nothing else, the posts on this site keep me laughing.

[Cledus]

I think there's no question about the Cats' talent. There's been a ton of it the last few years. As far as there being more in Bozeman than Missoula, I don't know. It's close. The difference is coaching.

Kramer and company are complete retards prior to Cat-Griz and then by the grace of God are able to put their buffoonery aside for a day. It's probably the universe's way of restoring equilibrium after a season of embarassing blunders.

[bobcatgrad2005]

Cledua wrote:

Kramer and company are complete retards prior to Cat-Griz and then by the grace of God are able to put their buffoonery aside for a day. It's probably the universe's way of restoring equilibrium after a season of embarrassing blunders.

Ok man, I'm seriously not trying to pick a fight. But what about Kramer pisses you off so much? And did Durham, or does Huse, or the track coach similarly make you so angry? Were you cut by Kramer? I can not figure out why you have ABSOLUTLEY nothing positive to say about a man who has:

1. Put together the first 5 winning seasons in a row in school history.
2. Produced exciting teams to watch to the point of resuscitating the game day atmosphere to the south of Kagy Boulevard.
3. Beat the Grizzlies more times in the past 5 years than anyone in the last 20.
4. Put over 80,000 miles (that's the past 2 years alone) on a vehicle traveling the state promoting Bobcat Athletics and Montana State University. (Something which, by the way, was not demanded of previous coaches, and thus was not in the job description).


I know there are others. And while I respect your right to voice your opinion, I am trying to understand why it is so strong in one direction.

[Cledus]

I know there are others. And while I respect your right to voice your opinion, I am trying to understand why it is so strong in one direction.

Since this thread is related to Griz smack, I'll address your question in a more appropriate thread. Fair enough?

[Htowngriz]

You know, I read that earlier today GrizinWash and was trying to figure out how I could post it here without the place blowing up too. All in all a pretty good article and really it is true, the schools that have been "dynasties" in I-AA have all fallen off to some degree but the Griz really haven't.

Finally, a cat fan who can face reality







Yet.

[MSU Toddler]

I suppose you are going to tell me that the reason the Bobcats embarrassed the Griz last year was because of their superior talent also. Give me a break. Kramer outcoaches Hauck every year. It will be no different this year.

in watching that game last year (live), the griz really didn't show a whole lot of anything (coaching, talent, playmaking, etc) - no smack intended, but they were beat on every aspect of the game. perhaps the griz had more talented players (not a qb that's for sure), but they brought absolutely nothing with them to bozeman last year. i find it funny to make a conclusion that the griz were more talented based on that game?