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Pretty good for a running back........RootinfortheCats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:50 amAfter week 8, lots of Cats on the list:
https://herosports.com/fcs-2024-pff-hig ... rs-8-bzbz/
Tommy beat out Miller for #1
Mountain lion wild cat?ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:00 pmPretty good for a running back........RootinfortheCats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:50 amAfter week 8, lots of Cats on the list:
https://herosports.com/fcs-2024-pff-hig ... rs-8-bzbz/
Tommy beat out Miller for #1
This year, MSU players largely are not being recognized in player of the week lists, ostensibly because they're blowing out opponents and sitting out 40% of the game. But according to this list they're among the best at doing their job.RootinfortheCats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:50 amAfter week 8, lots of Cats on the list:
https://herosports.com/fcs-2024-pff-hig ... rs-8-bzbz/
Tommy beat out Miller for #1
Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:35 pmThis can’t be true. A bunch of posters told me on here that Lan Larison was better than Scottre so it’s obviously wrong.
Note: PFF isn’t the gospel or the de facto ranking of who the best players are, it’s just another tool to look at top performers. There is more context beyond film grades, like the quality of opponents, just like there is more context beyond box scores and statistical leaders.
While my comment is somewhat tongue in cheek, the quote is exactly that, a tool. And by theses metrics or tool, which are done by people who know a crap ton about football, SH is one of the 3 best RB in FCS. I'm sorry you were wrong?ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:43 pmProdigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:35 pmThis can’t be true. A bunch of posters told me on here that Lan Larison was better than Scottre so it’s obviously wrong.Note: PFF isn’t the gospel or the de facto ranking of who the best players are, it’s just another tool to look at top performers. There is more context beyond film grades, like the quality of opponents, just like there is more context beyond box scores and statistical leaders.
Not wrong at all. I never chimed into the debate you guys were having as I think they are both great and would take either. Obviously I love Scottre cause he's a Cat. I thought it was a silly argument as both are great talents.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:54 pmWhile my comment is somewhat tongue in cheek, the quote is exactly that, a tool. And by theses metrics or tool, which are done by people who know a crap ton about football, SH is one of the 3 best RB in FCS. I'm sorry you were wrong?ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:43 pmProdigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:35 pmThis can’t be true. A bunch of posters told me on here that Lan Larison was better than Scottre so it’s obviously wrong.Note: PFF isn’t the gospel or the de facto ranking of who the best players are, it’s just another tool to look at top performers. There is more context beyond film grades, like the quality of opponents, just like there is more context beyond box scores and statistical leaders.
Agreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
We’re 8-0, it’s a bye week, I’m bored. I wouldn’t call people disagreeing about who’s better a pissing match, but whatevs. Disagreements can be fun! Everybody having a kumbaya circle jerk is boring.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Oh totally. I couldn't care less what people discuss on here. I just choose to pick and choose the discussions I get involved in. Taking two amazing running backs and discussing which one is better didn't move the needle for me. But it's all entertaining for sure!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:39 pmWe’re 8-0, it’s a bye week, I’m bored. I wouldn’t call people disagreeing about who’s better a pissing match, but whatevs. Disagreements can be fun! Everybody having a kumbaya circle jerk is boring.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Ah yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
For entertainment and information. And now to see if one of you will change the mind of the other as to which of these backs is obviously better.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pmAh yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Seriously though, if debating who is a better RB is "silly" or "a waste of time" what are you doing here? That's kinda exactly what goes on in a message board.
A running back has to do more than run the ball. Scottre has 952 yards of offense - 952 yards rushing (4th in the nation), ZERO receiving (last in the nation). Larison has 1,357 yards of offense - 821 rushing (8th in the nation), 536 Receiving (26th in the nation). I'm not saying Scottre is bad, not good, whatever. He is a fantastic runner. Larison is a fantastic all-around back.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pmAh yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Seriously though, if debating who is a better RB is "silly" or "a waste of time" what are you doing here? That's kinda exactly what goes on in a message board.
We already had this debate but i'll give it another go. Larison has 100 more touches than Scottre so of course LL has more yards. If the Cats were in closer games I have zero doubt that SH would have significantly more yards. It's not Scottre's fault (well some of it is) that the Cats are blowing out teams and he has almost no touches the second half of games, or that they have a ton of depth at RB and a plethora of other weapons. The debate was started by which player should be higher in Phil Steels midseason all american rankings and by what I've watched Scottre is a better back even without catching the ball. He gets more defenders to miss, turns bad plays into good ones (last week was just the 2nd time he had been tackled for a loss this seasonBleedingBLue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:03 pmA running back has to do more than run the ball. Scottre has 952 yards of offense - 952 yards rushing (4th in the nation), ZERO receiving (last in the nation). Larison has 1,357 yards of offense - 821 rushing (8th in the nation), 536 Receiving (26th in the nation). I'm not saying Scottre is bad, not good, whatever. He is a fantastic runner. Larison is a fantastic all-around back.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pmAh yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Seriously though, if debating who is a better RB is "silly" or "a waste of time" what are you doing here? That's kinda exactly what goes on in a message board.
and its not JUST because of the O-line, a LOT of defenders had him and missed), and he just trucks guys.Good points. Cats have other backs to take carries away and are likely better receivers. U C Davis doesn't. Maybe Scottre can't catch well enough, but maybe Jones is better option. Right now Larisson is better all around Scottre maybe a better runner. Can't say it's just online as that could be an argument for WR and QB as well.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:49 pmWe already had this debate but i'll give it another go. Larison has 100 more touches than Scottre so of course LL has more yards. If the Cats were in closer games I have zero doubt that SH would have significantly more yards. It's not Scottre's fault (well some of it is) that the Cats are blowing out teams and he has almost no touches the second half of games, or that they have a ton of depth at RB and a plethora of other weapons. The debate was started by which player should be higher in Phil Steels midseason all american rankings and by what I've watched Scottre is a better back even without catching the ball. He gets more defenders to miss, turns bad plays into good ones (last week was just the 2nd time he had been tackled for a loss this seasonBleedingBLue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:03 pmA running back has to do more than run the ball. Scottre has 952 yards of offense - 952 yards rushing (4th in the nation), ZERO receiving (last in the nation). Larison has 1,357 yards of offense - 821 rushing (8th in the nation), 536 Receiving (26th in the nation). I'm not saying Scottre is bad, not good, whatever. He is a fantastic runner. Larison is a fantastic all-around back.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pmAh yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Seriously though, if debating who is a better RB is "silly" or "a waste of time" what are you doing here? That's kinda exactly what goes on in a message board.
The number 1 RB in the NFL right now is Derrick Henry and he catches he ball once or less per game. So catching the ball might make you a different type of back, it doesn't automatically make you a better one.
Naw. I’m just going to berate you for not arguing the way I do. You sanctimonious twat!ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:27 pmFor entertainment and information. And now to see if one of you will change the mind of the other as to which of these backs is obviously better.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pmAh yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Seriously though, if debating who is a better RB is "silly" or "a waste of time" what are you doing here? That's kinda exactly what goes on in a message board.
Ahem. Henry is leading the league in rushing yards. That does not mean he’s the #1 back in the league. Jordan Mason has more rushing yards than Josh Jacobs, but Jacobs is better than Mason.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:49 pmWe already had this debate but i'll give it another go. Larison has 100 more touches than Scottre so of course LL has more yards. If the Cats were in closer games I have zero doubt that SH would have significantly more yards. It's not Scottre's fault (well some of it is) that the Cats are blowing out teams and he has almost no touches the second half of games, or that they have a ton of depth at RB and a plethora of other weapons. The debate was started by which player should be higher in Phil Steels midseason all american rankings and by what I've watched Scottre is a better back even without catching the ball. He gets more defenders to miss, turns bad plays into good ones (last week was just the 2nd time he had been tackled for a loss this seasonBleedingBLue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:03 pmA running back has to do more than run the ball. Scottre has 952 yards of offense - 952 yards rushing (4th in the nation), ZERO receiving (last in the nation). Larison has 1,357 yards of offense - 821 rushing (8th in the nation), 536 Receiving (26th in the nation). I'm not saying Scottre is bad, not good, whatever. He is a fantastic runner. Larison is a fantastic all-around back.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pmAh yes a list from June 30th is super relevant in a discussion about who the best RB is this season when its nearly Nov. I mean Julius is number 10 and he hasn't taken a snap.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:13 pmAgreed. Fun for discussion but little else.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:08 pmI think I despise PFF more than the Griz. They’re good for getting formation counts, snaps, etc, but their “ratings” are garbage meant to ensure attention.
Here's a list from people I assume watch a ton of football so they must be right.
https://www.si.com/college/fcs/top-10-r ... ks-in-2024
Like I said both backs are great. I'm very happy with Scottre as well as the rest of our backs. To get in a pissing match over who's "best" seems like a waste of time to me. I couldn't be happier that Scottre is a Bobcat. Hope he remains one.
Seriously though, if debating who is a better RB is "silly" or "a waste of time" what are you doing here? That's kinda exactly what goes on in a message board.
The number 1 RB in the NFL right now is Derrick Henry and he catches he ball once or less per game. So catching the ball might make you a different type of back, it doesn't automatically make you a better one.