QB Update

[bobcatbob]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

Yes, I do wonder. I personally like Choate as our coach. I think he is great. His background and strength is defense though. We have really struggled with this QB position.

Yes, QB has been a but of a sore spot but do you think they are so bad they would overlook a guy. To me, it speaks volumes that despite our struggles with qb, he still sits at 3.

He is really not even number 3 with Jonsen, Anderson and even Kassis playing before him.

[Helcat72]

I think Choate left Rovig in to show him that he has to keep playing no matter what happens. A step in installing some confidence. Not sure how long you do that though....as long as we win.

[Cataholic]

I’m not saying CB is the answer but this competition shouldn’t be settled. Rovig doesn’t deserve to keep the starting job after the last 2 games.

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

Yes, I do wonder. I personally like Choate as our coach. I think he is great. His background and strength is defense though. We have really struggled with this QB position.

Yes, QB has been a but of a sore spot but do you think they are so bad they would overlook a guy. To me, it speaks volumes that despite our struggles with qb, he still sits at 3.

He is really not even number 3 with Jonsen, Anderson and even Kassis playing before him.

You have done a lot of research on Beltran, but I guarantee that the coaches know a hell of a lot more than you do about Beltran. I also guarantee you that they want the best person at QB and they have decided that it is not Beltran. Do you really think your analysis based on Beltran’s high school resume is better than the close observation of our coaches??

[catatac]

I don't know if everyone watched the Griz game today but Sneed was terrible on a bunch of his throws. Seriously, terrible passes. Of course he also had a bunch of really good ones, but several terrible passes.

People calling for the 3rd string QB, or ripping on TR for his play up to this point are goofy, or don't understand football... or at least don't understand what offense we run. As others have stated, we are 5-1.

[catsack]

2-0

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

Yes, I do wonder. I personally like Choate as our coach. I think he is great. His background and strength is defense though. We have really struggled with this QB position.

Yes, QB has been a but of a sore spot but do you think they are so bad they would overlook a guy. To me, it speaks volumes that despite our struggles with qb, he still sits at 3.

He is really not even number 3 with Jonsen, Anderson and even Kassis playing before him.

You have done a lot of research on Beltran, but I guarantee that the coaches know a hell of a lot more than you do about Beltran. I also guarantee you that they want the best person at QB and they have decided that it is not Beltran. Do you really think your analysis based on Beltran’s high school resume is better than the close observation of our coaches??

****** if he’s that bad cut Beltran,what’s the point of keeping him if he can’t beat out two receivers and a linebacker, why waist his time?

[Clinton T]

What was Bauman’s record?

2-1.

And Rovig would have beat Texas Tech?

CB May be a good QB before his time is up here. But right now he is fundamentally way behind. He has a lot to learn. He played at such a small school, the competition was not there at that level. Rovig is serviceable. However, we should expect better if our goal is winning the chipper. Yes, I would like to see Beltran get a chance because I have researched his background and have watched him in practice just about every day of fall camps since he has been here. He is fundamentally solid, played at a high level in high school, had the same private QB mentor as Dalton Sneed all thru his high school years, won championships and is a gamer like Lulay and McGhee. He is the type of kid who steps up when you need a big play. No he is not 6’ 5” or 6’ 8” but he is a winner. Why he is not getting a chance, I don’t know. It has been between Rovig and Bauman all along.

Because the coaches clearly dont think he has it. Ive seen his stats from spring and fall camp. Good numbers but against the 3rd team defense. I agree he has been a winner, but you have to wonder why he still sits at 3.

Yes, I do wonder. I personally like Choate as our coach. I think he is great. His background and strength is defense though. We have really struggled with this QB position.

Yes, QB has been a but of a sore spot but do you think they are so bad they would overlook a guy. To me, it speaks volumes that despite our struggles with qb, he still sits at 3.

He is really not even number 3 with Jonsen, Anderson and even Kassis playing before him.

You have done a lot of research on Beltran, but I guarantee that the coaches know a hell of a lot more than you do about Beltran. I also guarantee you that they want the best person at QB and they have decided that it is not Beltran. Do you really think your analysis based on Beltran’s high school resume is better than the close observation of our coaches??

****** if he’s that bad cut Beltran,what’s the point of keeping him if he can’t beat out two receivers and a linebacker, why waist his time?

That is a valid point. If he isn't good enough to even get a look in live game action when the two quarterbacks in front of him cannot complete slants, why is he on the roster? Surely even a third string D1 QB can complete passes to the flat and slants.

[gtapp]

If Rovig still needs more experience in his 3rd year he may not be the answer. Bauman looked totally not ready so at this point there is not much to lose with Beltran.

[KittieKop]

If Rovig still needs more experience in his 3rd year he may not be the answer. Bauman looked totally not ready so at this point there is not much to lose with Beltran.

We could, actually you know....lose the game. There is that to lose. MSU is 5-1 with those two "******" quarterbacks at the helm.

[Long Time Cat]

Cal Poly was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. I suppose that's Rovig's fault as well.

[Cledus]

Cal Poly was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. I suppose that's Rovig's fault as well.

Good point. We also shouldn’t give a Rovig any credit at all for hitting a touchdown on 4th and 10, or whatever it was.

[TomCat88]

I have a feeling a lot of the people that don’t like Rovig would be saying “it’s not Rovig’s fault!” if he was throwing for 330 yards and two TDs on 45 passes a game, which is about what his numbers project out to if he throws that many passes, and MSU was losing. There are a lot of QBs out there doing just and they’re on 2-4, 2-3 teams.

Football: It’s a team sport.

[Hawks86]

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[FTG_1984]

I don't know if everyone watched the Griz game today but Sneed was terrible on a bunch of his throws. Seriously, terrible passes. Of course he also had a bunch of really good ones, but several terrible passes.

People calling for the 3rd string QB, or ripping on TR for his play up to this point are goofy, or don't understand football... or at least don't understand what offense we run. As others have stated, we are 5-1.

The Cats are a very good 5-1 FCS team that happens to not have a steady starting QB yet. But make no mistake, we will go .500 in Big Sky play if Rovig is allowed to stay under center the rest of the season. He is simply not a starting QB. The team knows this too. Bauman has a much higher ceiling as a QB and needs to be playing over Rovig if TA or Jonsen are not taking snaps at QB.

We will have a very small chance of winning our next 2 games if Rovig is allowed to take the bulk of the snaps at QB.

[FTG_1984]

Cal Poly was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. I suppose that's Rovig's fault as well.

From a mindset & morale standpoint, yes it is actually. It's not necessarily Rovig's fault himself. But, more accurately, the decision of the coach to allow Rovig to continue as the QB.

Once a team or locker room loses faith in their QB, the effect of this can become a kind of mental cancer that negatively impacts the team in all phases of the game.

This is why after our D held Cal Poly to 0 points in their first OT series Jonsen took every snap at QB when we got the ball. It would have demoralized our D & team to allow Rovig to go out there as QB & go 3-and-out again. This was a great decision by Choate, who I believe understands this concept very well.

[Long Time Cat]

Cal Poly was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. I suppose that's Rovig's fault as well.

From a mindset & morale standpoint, yes it is actually. It's not necessarily Rovig's fault himself. But, more accurately, the decision of the coach to allow Rovig to continue as the QB.

Once a team or locker room loses faith in their QB, the effect of this can become a kind of mental cancer that negatively impacts the team in all phases of the game.

This is why after our D held Cal Poly to 0 points in their first OT series Jonsen took every snap at QB when we got the ball. It would have demoralized our D & team to allow Rovig to go out there as QB & go 3-and-out again. This was a great decision by Choate, who I believe understands this concept very well.

You, my friend, are unbelievable!

[FTG_1984]

You, my friend, are unbelievable!

Read your own blog profile quote from Lombardi! This is what I am saying!

[TomCat88]

Maier 44 passes per game (138 rating). 2-4
Cookus 39 passes per game (150 rating). 3-3
Barrierre 37 passes per game (145 rating). 2-4
Combined 7-11 (3 FBS losses). 7-8

Bauman/Rovig 30 passes (117 rating). 5-1
Constantine/Jenks 29 passes (108 rating). 3-2
Combined 8-3 (3 FBS losses). 8-0

See how important big passing numbers are?

[Catsrgrood]

Cal Poly was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. I suppose that's Rovig's fault as well.

From a mindset & morale standpoint, yes it is actually. It's not necessarily Rovig's fault himself. But, more accurately, the decision of the coach to allow Rovig to continue as the QB.

Once a team or locker room loses faith in their QB, the effect of this can become a kind of mental cancer that negatively impacts the team in all phases of the game.

This is why after our D held Cal Poly to 0 points in their first OT series Jonsen took every snap at QB when we got the ball. It would have demoralized our D & team to allow Rovig to go out there as QB & go 3-and-out again. This was a great decision by Choate, who I believe understands this concept very well.

That’s enough internet for you today...

[Cat4LifeHouseDivided]

Cal Poly was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. I suppose that's Rovig's fault as well.

From a mindset & morale standpoint, yes it is actually. It's not necessarily Rovig's fault himself. But, more accurately, the decision of the coach to allow Rovig to continue as the QB.

Once a team or locker room loses faith in their QB, the effect of this can become a kind of mental cancer that negatively impacts the team in all phases of the game.

This is why after our D held Cal Poly to 0 points in their first OT series Jonsen took every snap at QB when we got the ball. It would have demoralized our D & team to allow Rovig to go out there as QB & go 3-and-out again. This was a great decision by Choate, who I believe understands this concept very well.

Didn't know you were in the locker room and know the pulse of the team. Enlightening stuff. Seemed like they really had Tucker's back when he threw that TD but sure I am sure they hate him after a bad half.

[Cat4LifeHouseDivided]

If Rovig still needs more experience in his 3rd year he may not be the answer. Bauman looked totally not ready so at this point there is not much to lose with Beltran.

Rovig has had 5 starts...dont give me the 3rd year stuff. Game action is different then practice. Not to mention, the lost time due to the foot injury.