Nuanez Now: College football hypotheticals

[RickRund]

I heard bergen was out injured for a bit.....

Well now we definitely don't want to trade for him.

And if Bergen was to go out with a major injury that would really change the gris, correct?

[Catsrgrood]

And to think they almost didn’t even have Bergen at all.
He flipped commitments when Choate left (no hard feelings, is what it is).

Can you imagine if that never happened? Bergen with the Cats would be something to see and the griz without Bergen would be great as well. They sure as hell wouldn’t have had that run last year without him.

[CodyCat]

And to think they almost didn’t even have Bergen at all.
He flipped commitments when Choate left (no hard feelings, is what it is).

Can you imagine if that never happened? Bergen with the Cats would be something to see and the griz without Bergen would be great as well. They sure as hell wouldn’t have had that run last year without him.

In terms of the rivalry, I still and always will have major hard feelings! As far as him as a person? No hard feelings.

And your comment about the gris not having the run they did without him. I think thats a maybe. HauckTawh has always had really tremendous special teams plays.

[Catsrgrood]

And to think they almost didn’t even have Bergen at all.
He flipped commitments when Choate left (no hard feelings, is what it is).

Can you imagine if that never happened? Bergen with the Cats would be something to see and the griz without Bergen would be great as well. They sure as hell wouldn’t have had that run last year without him.

In terms of the rivalry, I still and always will have major hard feelings! As far as him as a person? No hard feelings.

And your comment about the gris not having the run they did without him. I think thats a maybe. HauckTawh has always had really tremendous special teams plays.

I get it, my statement is impossible to prove one way or another. hauck’s special teams are always solid to very good. But playoff Bergen was on another level last year. They would have had a time replicating that with anyone else.

They beat Furman by a single TD in OT and needed two Bergen return TD’s to do it.
And they beat NDSU in double overtime with yet another Bergen return TD, Bergen as the leading receiver with a receiving TD and Bergen throwing the game winning two point conversion.

It’s not a stretch at all to think that they’re sitting at home lamenting a quarterfinal home loss if they didn’t have Bergen playing at an all world level for a couple games.

[cats2506]

I wouldn't trade Bergan for Taco

Really? I'd like to hear more about your reasoning.

Bergen is a great player, last year he had to carry a heavy load (he was up to it)

Mainly my reason is Bergen is a Sr, this is it, Taco is a So, we have 3 more years of him and I think his ceiling is at least as high as Bergen's
I think that Taco has shown that he has all the athletic ability, intelligence and that he can make a play when its most needed. Bergen seems to have the same traits I just don't see how trading one and done Bergen for a 3 years remaining Taco is anyway a smart move.

Besides, having a player named Taco is just cool

[tetoncat]

I wouldn't trade Bergan for Taco

Really? I'd like to hear more about your reasoning.

I would say last year was first Bergan was an offensive weapon and not just special teams ace. Griz special teams schemes are good and multiple returners have been effective. Taco showed glimpses 1st year and injury impacted most of last year. If we compare where at in careers very similar in my opinion. Bergan better now but maybe not in long term.

He’s been an offensive weapon since he stepped foot in Missoula.

I guess
2021 21 rec 230 yd 1 td 118 carries 493 yd 4 td
2022 17 rec 211 yd 4 td 14 carries 42 yd
2023 49 rec 707 yd 4 td 5 carries 19 yd

1st 2 years 1 long reception was 1/4 to 1/3 of total yards. Even on returns no TD till last year

These are off espn so not sure playoffs included.

[CodyCat]

And to think they almost didn’t even have Bergen at all.
He flipped commitments when Choate left (no hard feelings, is what it is).

Can you imagine if that never happened? Bergen with the Cats would be something to see and the griz without Bergen would be great as well. They sure as hell wouldn’t have had that run last year without him.

In terms of the rivalry, I still and always will have major hard feelings! As far as him as a person? No hard feelings.

And your comment about the gris not having the run they did without him. I think thats a maybe. HauckTawh has always had really tremendous special teams plays.

I get it, my statement is impossible to prove one way or another. hauck’s special teams are always solid to very good. But playoff Bergen was on another level last year. They would have had a time replicating that with anyone else.

They beat Furman by a single TD in OT and needed two Bergen return TD’s to do it.
And they beat NDSU in double overtime with yet another Bergen return TD, Bergen as the leading receiver with a receiving TD and Bergen throwing the game winning two point conversion.

It’s not a stretch at all to think that they’re sitting at home lamenting a quarterfinal home loss if they didn’t have Bergen playing at an all world level for a couple games.

Bergen aside, dont forget that if throwing a defender to the ground who was covering the receiver was a penalty, things may have been different. Haha

[BelligerentBobcat]

I wouldn't trade Bergan for Taco

Really? I'd like to hear more about your reasoning.

I would say last year was first Bergan was an offensive weapon and not just special teams ace. Griz special teams schemes are good and multiple returners have been effective. Taco showed glimpses 1st year and injury impacted most of last year. If we compare where at in careers very similar in my opinion. Bergan better now but maybe not in long term.

He’s been an offensive weapon since he stepped foot in Missoula.

I guess
2021 21 rec 230 yd 1 td 118 carries 493 yd 4 td
2022 17 rec 211 yd 4 td 14 carries 42 yd
2023 49 rec 707 yd 4 td 5 carries 19 yd

1st 2 years 1 long reception was 1/4 to 1/3 of total yards. Even on returns no TD till last year

These are off espn so not sure playoffs included.

Context matters so much.

His freshman year he came in, basically played a flex position between receiver and RB, and excelled at RB. The OL was mediocre, offensive scheme meh, but he was explosive and made plays happen. Sophomore year, they refused to get him more targets despite him being open all the dang time.

The stats book will lie to you, gotta watch the games. Bergen is an excellent player. Wish he would’ve stayed with us.

[tetoncat]

I wouldn't trade Bergan for Taco

Really? I'd like to hear more about your reasoning.

I would say last year was first Bergan was an offensive weapon and not just special teams ace. Griz special teams schemes are good and multiple returners have been effective. Taco showed glimpses 1st year and injury impacted most of last year. If we compare where at in careers very similar in my opinion. Bergan better now but maybe not in long term.

He’s been an offensive weapon since he stepped foot in Missoula.

I guess
2021 21 rec 230 yd 1 td 118 carries 493 yd 4 td
2022 17 rec 211 yd 4 td 14 carries 42 yd
2023 49 rec 707 yd 4 td 5 carries 19 yd

1st 2 years 1 long reception was 1/4 to 1/3 of total yards. Even on returns no TD till last year

These are off espn so not sure playoffs included.

Context matters so much.

His freshman year he came in, basically played a flex position between receiver and RB, and excelled at RB. The OL was mediocre, offensive scheme meh, but he was explosive and made plays happen. Sophomore year, they refused to get him more targets despite him being open all the dang time.

The stats book will lie to you, gotta watch the games. Bergen is an excellent player. Wish he would’ve stayed with us.

I don't disagree he is excellent. But his numbers don't show he was necessarily above Dowler at same age which is my point. Context was would we trade. You just don't like the reasoning I or OP have. That is okay and doesn't make either opinion wrong.

[Helcat72]

I wouldn't trade Bergan for Taco

Taco's not a senior...and has always given me a warm secure feeling with regards to.punt returns that I haven't had for years before him.