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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by Monymony » Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by MSU01 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm

Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by technoCat » Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:21 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
Not to mention not being able to absorb injuries to key players. Working in depth this year is really paying off!


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by 91catAlum » Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:27 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
Remains to be seen if it's solved or not. Can we hit a 40 yarder when we're up by 20 and don't need it? Yes usually.
Can we hit one when we're down by 3 with 5 seconds left? Maybe, but we don't know.


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by tetoncat » Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:14 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:27 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
Remains to be seen if it's solved or not. Can we hit a 40 yarder when we're up by 20 and don't need it? Yes usually.
Can we hit one when we're down by 3 with 5 seconds left? Maybe, but we don't know.
Or Cats are better and not putting themselves in position where they need those. 2 Big misses vs Idaho plus Tacos drop seemed to change the swagger of the team. Came to a head vs Griz. Played good vs NDSU but D was not as good as it is this year, injuries to both QB that impacted closing the deal and the missed XP


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by RickRund » Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:18 pm

Due to the CATS being as good as they are we are stuck with the "they don't play anyone" moniker. I guess we should only play the top two teams from each conference. We didn't get to pick who we square off against. We will just line up against the next week's foe and beat them and go 1-0 each week.

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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by Monymony » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by BelgradeBobcat » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:18 pm
Due to the CATS being as good as they are we are stuck with the "they don't play anyone" moniker. I guess we should only play the top two teams from each conference. We didn't get to pick who we square off against. We will just line up against the next week's foe and beat them and go 1-0 each week.

GOOOOO BOBCATS
And judging by the condition of EWU's starting quarterback at the end of the Idaho game (ice on his leg), I would say next week isn't going to solve this problem. If EWU's starter can't go, they have no chance in my opinion. We'll see.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by ilovethecats » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:39 pm

BelgradeBobcat wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:18 pm
Due to the CATS being as good as they are we are stuck with the "they don't play anyone" moniker. I guess we should only play the top two teams from each conference. We didn't get to pick who we square off against. We will just line up against the next week's foe and beat them and go 1-0 each week.

GOOOOO BOBCATS
And judging by the condition of EWU's starting quarterback at the end of the Idaho game (ice on his leg), I would say next week isn't going to solve this problem. If EWU's starter can't go, they have no chance in my opinion. We'll see.
Thing is though it doesn’t matter. Just keep handling our business. If people wanna think we only look good because of who we had on the schedule so be it. Nothing we can do about it and it doesn’t matter. Just keep winning. Then, like with Idaho, we’ll hear that the teams who were thought to be good were actually just overrated. Again, so be it.

Go 1-0 each week, and we’ll be in a great spot.



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Post by tetoncat » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:44 pm

Yep it is interesting that BSC is considered 2nd best. A lot of past seasons top teams lose 1 on road or pull out some squeaker. Cats have not done either. Deserve more credit for that mow need to finish. If they play like have so far next 2 shouldn't be close. But I expect last 2 will be.


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:47 pm

Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The difference between last year and this year is how the ball is coming off Sansted’s foot. Last year the ball was knuckling off Hall’s foot and slicing/hooking off Kautzman’s and rarely stayed in a straight flight path. This year even the misses are straight kicks. I think there have been three misses - one was blocked - and none have come off his foot poorly.

I’ve been saying all along that MSU should not be placekicking at any key moment unless it’s in an impossible down and distance. I would be in four down mode once I crossed midfield if the game is hanging in the balance.


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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:27 pm

I don’t think anybody in college football, and certainly not the FCS level, is completely convinced they’re making the kick in win or lose situations. Even Glessner’s best was 80%, and Cunningham was just barely over 75% for his career.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by grizzh8r » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:19 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:27 pm
I don’t think anybody in college football, and certainly not the FCS level, is completely convinced they’re making the kick in win or lose situations. Even Glessner’s best was 80%, and Cunningham was just barely over 75% for his career.
College kicker situation. Ask USD...


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Post by tetoncat » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:42 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:19 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:27 pm
I don’t think anybody in college football, and certainly not the FCS level, is completely convinced they’re making the kick in win or lose situations. Even Glessner’s best was 80%, and Cunningham was just barely over 75% for his career.
College kicker situation. Ask USD...
Didn't SDSU also miss one in that game.


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by MSU01 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm

Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by Monymony » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:47 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.
The NDSU game was lost on a bad PAT and we had a 43 yarder against Idaho. Myles is so much better but he hadn’t had a single kick that has had real implications. Everyone one can do it when it doesn’t matter but when the season is on the line that will tell us where the kicking game is at. I just think we as fans need to have fair assessments of our team. Yes we are so dang good but still not perfect.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:01 pm

Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:47 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.
The NDSU game was lost on a bad PAT and we had a 43 yarder against Idaho. Myles is so much better but he hadn’t had a single kick that has had real implications. Everyone one can do it when it doesn’t matter but when the season is on the line that will tell us where the kicking game is at. I just think we as fans need to have fair assessments of our team. Yes we are so dang good but still not perfect.
If you're going to downplay everything the Cats are doing this year, at least get your facts straight. Kautzman missed a FG on the 1st two drives of the NDSU game last year. 33 and 49.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by iaafan » Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:47 pm

Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:47 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.
The NDSU game was lost on a bad PAT and we had a 43 yarder against Idaho. Myles is so much better but he hadn’t had a single kick that has had real implications. Everyone one can do it when it doesn’t matter but when the season is on the line that will tell us where the kicking game is at. I just think we as fans need to have fair assessments of our team. Yes we are so dang good but still not perfect.
Not a perfect team out there anywhere in any sport at any level. You’re grasping at straws. Just because you make a bunch of pressure kicks doesn’t mean you’re going to make the next one. Jan Stenerud missed two fgs in a playoff game in overtime. He’s in the NFL hall of fame. Relax.



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Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:43 pm
South Dakota has running back with the last name Jones-Logan (hyphenated). How weird is that.
:lol:



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:51 am

BelgradeBobcat wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:17 pm
Looks like a full barn in Moscow. That fanbase sure is fickle, but they showed up tonight.
And they promised us all that at least half of them would walk away forever if they dropped UP to FCS. I want them to make good on that. :lol:



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