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Cats and Dogs
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by Cats and Dogs » Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:54 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:48 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:09 am
lutecat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:39 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:42 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:26 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:16 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).
You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.
You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?
Interesting perspective for sure
I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!
Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.
I hope you find joy in your day.
Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.
I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.
I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
Exactly!
You know, Hauck doing it just like Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, etc.

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by seataccat » Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:59 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:48 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:09 am
lutecat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:39 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:42 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:26 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:16 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).
You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.
You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?
Interesting perspective for sure
I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!
Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.
I hope you find joy in your day.
Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.
I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.
I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Worham have a good season last year? I understand he was once a good player but what happened to him last year?
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by MSU01 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:13 pm
seataccat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:59 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Worham have a good season last year? I understand he was once a good player but what happened to him last year?
Wortham had a better statistical season in 2024 than he did in 2023 which was his other year at EWU, and was First-Team All Big Sky as an All Purpose player. Efton Chism had more receiving yards and TDs for them last year than the entire rest of the roster combined, so I don't think his stats alone tell the whole tale.
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by PapaG » Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:20 pm
seataccat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:59 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:48 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:09 am
lutecat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:39 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:42 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:26 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:16 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).
You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.
You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?
Interesting perspective for sure
I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!
Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.
I hope you find joy in your day.
Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.
I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.
I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Worham have a good season last year? I understand he was once a good player but what happened to him last year?
The Gris are taking a chance he is more than just a gimmick player on offense. It’s a decent risk by them. He had a great game against MSU last year and has elite speed. He’s tiny but should get the ball more than he did last season.
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by TomCat88 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:07 pm
PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:20 pm
seataccat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:59 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:48 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:09 am
lutecat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:39 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:42 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:26 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:16 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).
You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.
You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?
Interesting perspective for sure
I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!
Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.
I hope you find joy in your day.
Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.
I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.
I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Worham have a good season last year? I understand he was once a good player but what happened to him last year?
The Gris are taking a chance he is more than just a gimmick player on offense. It’s a decent risk by them. He had a great game against MSU last year and has elite speed. He’s tiny but should get the ball more than he did last season.
He fumbled a kickoff and MSU scored on the next play. He had one good return of 36 yards but got stoned on the other two. He only touched the ball from scrimmage six times. He had the 75-yard TD run, a 17-yard run, caught two passes for just four yards and completed his only two passes for 24 yards.
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by PapaG » Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:43 pm
Whatever, a decent showing. What a random nit to pick.
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by Cataholic » Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:45 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Agreed. Could also turn out to be the next Tyler Brugman. Crazy how that happens!
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by 110010110 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:45 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Pretty different situations in my opinion. IIRC Choate was their position coach at UW so he knew exactly what kind of players he was bringing in to the program instead of rolling the dice.
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by HookedOnGriz » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:05 pm
110010110 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:45 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Pretty different situations in my opinion. IIRC Choate was their position coach at UW so he knew exactly what kind of players he was bringing in to the program instead of rolling the dice.
Hauck and Green very familiar with Peevey too. He is from San Diego originally and San Diego St (full or Hauck colleagues) offered him out of HS too. So there’s some familiarity there as well.
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by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:39 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:15 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:48 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:09 am
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RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Damn. This class is ugly. I only see the BYU guy, EIU guy and Wortham being contributors. The rest have all kinds of questions marks. One the USC braely saw the field and the other never played. The ASU and USU guys never saw the field. The Tennessee kid was a non contributor. But hey, you guys landed about 6 or 7 NAIA or JUCO players! Great job!
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Wortham, Tolbert, Harper will all play a ton and are already proven studs. We will see a bunch of Peck (may have been at Carroll but that’s only because FCS and FBS missed out on him completely). Hendrix will be a starting WR as we lost most of our WR corps. Peevey will play a bunch if he stays with the Griz. A former 4 star with size and speed that you won’t see at this level (he had 20+ offers out of high school to all the big schools).
You mentioned that because the others didn't see the field or were non contributors at their last school, that just “automatically” means they won’t be good with the Griz? I’d argue Riley Wilson and Hayden Harris turned out pretty damn good and were in that exact scenario at Hawaii and UCLA.
You also mentioned that JUCO guys are no good and won’t do anything? We’ve seen a lot of good juco players in Missoula….Cam Humphrey, Dalton Sneed, Marcus Knight, Justin Ford and more. In fact the two transfers you guys signed are JUCO kids…..are you saying they automatically are no good?
Interesting perspective for sure
I think your conscious is inserting the word “automatically”. I don’t see that word anything I posted. What I said is that they “have all kinds of questions”. Which is 100% accurate! But thank you for showing us how you insert the Gris spin on everything. Can’t believe a damn thing you post!
Dude he gave a good response to you. It was good conversation adding to this thread. You have a personal issue with Hooked. I get that. But you don't have to come in with your junk when he is adding good conversation to this thread. Let's reward griz fans that do that by not treating them like a troll.
I hope you find joy in your day.
Appreciate that Lute. I find it interesting that he fights/argues/and gets confrontational with lots of Cats posters here too. Seems to be one common denominator in those convos.
I’m definitely not spinning anything, I was just pointing out who I think would be pretty good contributors out of this transfer class. They’ll definitely hit on some and they’ll definitely miss on plenty. Plus, I worry more about team culture, and cohesiveness when you bring in that many. I was doing some research to look at how many transfers some of the FBS teams are bringing in and from what I could tell in the top 10 ranked transfer classes,it averaged 22 players. Those numbers are kind of an anomaly in FCS but maybe Hauck is trending that way and following that curve.
I think a large difference between what UM is doing and what the top ranked FBS classes are doing is that those FBS schools are targeting/bringing in proven, big time, players. I realize there are some that UM took in like Wortham ( although big time is a stretch), the LB from wherever, and the kid from Carroll, but the vast majority are players dropping down because they’re not getting playing time for various reasons. I don’t really think of Juco players as traditional transfers, so I’m not including them. Regardless, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Personally I’d be worried that bringing in that many transfers is indicative of poor HS recruiting for a couple years, but I’m not so naive to think it can’t/won’t work for a year or two. I don’t particularly think it’s a good long term strategy at this level, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
That’s good feedback and a very fair assessment. I think this year for certain their hand was kind of forced to bring in a lot of kids. They lost 26 seniors and then had 7 portal out and then had 8 decide to hang it up and not use their final year eligibility. Some due to injuries and maybe some due to just being sick and tired of football. That’s 41 kids they have to replace and you just can’t do that with all freshman.
I agree you can’t replace 26 seniors with the current HS recruiting class. That process should have started more than 2 years ago. And that’s the “problem” or trend issue I see over there that would be concerning for me if I were you. The inconsistent HS recruiting is forcing UM to be reliant on bringing transfers in. And we’re going to see that continue with them bringing in only 17 or something HS players this year.
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by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:05 pm
110010110 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:45 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Pretty different situations in my opinion. IIRC Choate was their position coach at UW so he knew exactly what kind of players he was bringing in to the program instead of rolling the dice.
Hauck and Green very familiar with Peevey too. He is from San Diego originally and San Diego St (full or Hauck colleagues) offered him out of HS too. So there’s some familiarity there as well.
That’s not anything similar to being their position coach for year(s). Come on man, lol.
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by HookedOnGriz » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:24 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:05 pm
110010110 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:45 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Pretty different situations in my opinion. IIRC Choate was their position coach at UW so he knew exactly what kind of players he was bringing in to the program instead of rolling the dice.
Hauck and Green very familiar with Peevey too. He is from San Diego originally and San Diego St (full or Hauck colleagues) offered him out of HS too. So there’s some familiarity there as well.
That’s not anything similar to being their position coach for year(s). Come on man, lol.
Agree, I did not state it was similar. Simply pointing out that they are aware of him. They knew of him for a long time and they vetted him with a number of folks in that area where Bobby coached and Justin Green is from. it’s not like they’re just bringing in some random is what I’m saying.
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by TomCat88 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:25 am
Going to comment on Peevy in a new box here since that one is getting so long. He's a 4-star that had offers from every school out west: Arizona, Arizona State, Boise State, Colorado, Fresno State, Oregon, Oregon State, San Diego State, USC, Utah and Washington.
UM recruited him early and he came to their camp. Then he blew up and got out of their range. So, there is some familiarity there.
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by ilovethecats » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Always find it funny that when a school lands a nice HS player fans are all jacked, despite the kid has never stepped on a college field or sniffed college competition. But when a player drops down from FBS, people are quick to point out how said players didn't even get on the field at their bigger school.
The fact these kids even had the opportunity at the FBS level means they can play. Doesn't mean 100% of the time it will equal dominating the FCS. But it sure doesn't hurt. I'm always excited when we get dropdown players, regardless of their success in the FBS.
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by iaafan » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:15 am
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Always find it funny that when a school lands a nice HS player fans are all jacked, despite the kid has never stepped on a college field or sniffed college competition. But when a player drops down from FBS, people are quick to point out how said players didn't even get on the field at their bigger school.
The fact these kids even had the opportunity at the FBS level means they can play. Doesn't mean 100% of the time it will equal dominating the FCS. But it sure doesn't hurt. I'm always excited when we get dropdown players, regardless of their success in the FBS.
I think that’s true for a few fans. I think the reason everyone is talking about Peevy is because he was so off the charts good in high school and then didn’t play at USC. It’s not like they had a great defense. I think they were 15th in the Big Ten. And we’re not talking about the usc of old. This is an average team.
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by iaafan » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:18 am
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:25 am
Going to comment on Peevy in a new box here since that one is getting so long. He's a 4-star that had offers from every school out west: Arizona, Arizona State, Boise State, Colorado, Fresno State, Oregon, Oregon State, San Diego State, USC, Utah and Washington.
UM recruited him early and he came to their camp. Then he blew up and got out of their range. So, there is some familiarity there.
Pretty much explains it all. Not sure why Griz fans didn’t know that.
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by HookedOnGriz » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:08 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Always find it funny that when a school lands a nice HS player fans are all jacked, despite the kid has never stepped on a college field or sniffed college competition. But when a player drops down from FBS, people are quick to point out how said players didn't even get on the field at their bigger school.
The fact these kids even had the opportunity at the FBS level means they can play. Doesn't mean 100% of the time it will equal dominating the FCS. But it sure doesn't hurt. I'm always excited when we get dropdown players, regardless of their success in the FBS.
I’m with you on that. I think there’s a better chance a FBS drop down will find the field and contribute at the FCS level than most. That is, for the most part, a different level of football. People will also point out “well they didn’t play at their FBS school” so they must not be very good. That is a silly statement, too, especially for any FBS team in a P4 conf because there are absolute studs in front of these young men. They have to put in the work and grind and hope to get on the field by year 3 unless they are an absolute NFL star who can start as a freshman or RS Freshman.
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by iaafan » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:39 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:08 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Always find it funny that when a school lands a nice HS player fans are all jacked, despite the kid has never stepped on a college field or sniffed college competition. But when a player drops down from FBS, people are quick to point out how said players didn't even get on the field at their bigger school.
The fact these kids even had the opportunity at the FBS level means they can play. Doesn't mean 100% of the time it will equal dominating the FCS. But it sure doesn't hurt. I'm always excited when we get dropdown players, regardless of their success in the FBS.
I’m with you on that. I think there’s a better chance a FBS drop down will find the field and contribute at the FCS level than most. That is, for the most part, a different level of football. People will also point out “well they didn’t play at their FBS school” so they must not be very good. That is a silly statement, too, especially for any FBS team in a P4 conf because there are absolute studs in front of these young men. They have to put in the work and grind and hope to get on the field by year 3 unless they are an absolute NFL star who can start as a freshman or RS Freshman.
USC had just four defensive players make the Big Ten All-Conference teams. One was a DB that made third team. The other three were a DT, S, and LB that made honorable mention. Obviously, Peevy could be a great player. But I don't see anything wrong with wondering about why he didn't play. He's a DE and defensive lines rotate a lot of players. The participation report shows he didn't enter a game. The didn't have a lot of blowout wins or losses, so may have contributed to it. He played on a poor defense and you'd think a player that good would at least see the field if not crack the rotation.
This whole notion that we'd be jacked if Peevy came here is true for some fans, but I'd be wondering all these things if he were comeing to MSU. His high school numbers weren't anything special, but I will defer to all the coaches that recruited him that he was obviously a very good player in high school. His measurements are perfect for the position. If I were a Griz fan I'd be wondering about it.
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by HookedOnGriz » Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:02 pm
iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:39 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:08 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:40 am
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:06 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:35 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:55 pm
HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:24 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Always find it funny that when a school lands a nice HS player fans are all jacked, despite the kid has never stepped on a college field or sniffed college competition. But when a player drops down from FBS, people are quick to point out how said players didn't even get on the field at their bigger school.
The fact these kids even had the opportunity at the FBS level means they can play. Doesn't mean 100% of the time it will equal dominating the FCS. But it sure doesn't hurt. I'm always excited when we get dropdown players, regardless of their success in the FBS.
I’m with you on that. I think there’s a better chance a FBS drop down will find the field and contribute at the FCS level than most. That is, for the most part, a different level of football. People will also point out “well they didn’t play at their FBS school” so they must not be very good. That is a silly statement, too, especially for any FBS team in a P4 conf because there are absolute studs in front of these young men. They have to put in the work and grind and hope to get on the field by year 3 unless they are an absolute NFL star who can start as a freshman or RS Freshman.
USC had just four defensive players make the Big Ten All-Conference teams. One was a DB that made third team. The other three were a DT, S, and LB that made honorable mention. Obviously, Peevy could be a great player. But I don't see anything wrong with wondering about why he didn't play. He's a DE and defensive lines rotate a lot of players. The participation report shows he didn't enter a game. The didn't have a lot of blowout wins or losses, so may have contributed to it. He played on a poor defense and you'd think a player that good would at least see the field if not crack the rotation.
This whole notion that we'd be jacked if Peevy came here is true for some fans, but I'd be wondering all these things if he were comeing to MSU. His high school numbers weren't anything special, but I will defer to all the coaches that recruited him that he was obviously a very good player in high school. His measurements are perfect for the position. If I were a Griz fan I'd be wondering about it.
All fair statements and yes it’s okay to wonder. I look more at the fact that he was only a RS Freshman last season. Would be interesting to see how many Freshman or RS Freshman started or were regular contributors in any P4 programs. I am guessing not very many….definitely more the exception than the rule. That level of football is a whole different beast and the young guys typically have to put in their time for a few years before they crack the rotation. I am assuming his skills and all of his accolades will translate pretty damn good at the FCS level if he ends up a Griz. Like I said before, lots of examples of dudes who weren’t seeing the field at all on their FBS team (even as sophomores or RS-sophs) who then came to Cats or Griz and absolutely dominated (Sterk, Williams, Wilson, Harris just recently ones off top of my head). Personally I hope he ends up in Missoula and we get to see.
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RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am
Don't know if I have seen this mentioned but didn't they sign also sign a drop down from USC, guessing that is Southern California?
They got 2 USC transfers, the QB Jensen and a former 4 star DE Peevey. Peevey has 3 years left and Jensen just 1 unless they work the JC eligibility in for all then he will have 2.
I think their best additions outside Peevey are:
Wortham - EWU - all purpose all American
Tolbert - East Ill LB - all conf and all American honors
Harper - BYU safety - was a freshman all American but has dealt with injuries since
Peck - Carroll College DE - all American
Bailey - Utah St DL (nose) - 3 star DL out of HS and all conf honors at JUCO (2 years left)
Hendrix - Ariz St WR - 3 star out of HS and was rated by ESPN to be the 62nd best WR prospect in country (4 years left)
Landed some military prep school kids too who will be good eventually. I think military prep and military school kids make a lot of sense for Bobby and how he runs things.
We will see how it all comes together. Too tough to say right now.
Thanks Hooked! Good list. Did Peevey start at USC? I would assume so if he's your #1 guy out of all 20 your brought in. If not, I'm not all that impressed by that recruit. NO, I'm not saying he's not going to be a dominant force for you guys as he very well may be. I'm just saying I'm way more impressed with some of your other guys that have proven themselves as starters\all americans at the FCS level. Just the way I look at it.
Peevey has been with USC for two years and has never seen the field.
https://gogriz.com/news/2025/2/5/footba ... igning-day
Yes, eerily similar to when Choate brought in Bryce Sterk and a Amandre Williams from Washington where they weren’t even sniffing the field and had no chance of playing, but came to the bobcats and became stars for the cats and the big sky. Absolutely crazy how that happens!
Always find it funny that when a school lands a nice HS player fans are all jacked, despite the kid has never stepped on a college field or sniffed college competition. But when a player drops down from FBS, people are quick to point out how said players didn't even get on the field at their bigger school.
The fact these kids even had the opportunity at the FBS level means they can play. Doesn't mean 100% of the time it will equal dominating the FCS. But it sure doesn't hurt. I'm always excited when we get dropdown players, regardless of their success in the FBS.
I’m with you on that. I think there’s a better chance a FBS drop down will find the field and contribute at the FCS level than most. That is, for the most part, a different level of football. People will also point out “well they didn’t play at their FBS school” so they must not be very good. That is a silly statement, too, especially for any FBS team in a P4 conf because there are absolute studs in front of these young men. They have to put in the work and grind and hope to get on the field by year 3 unless they are an absolute NFL star who can start as a freshman or RS Freshman.
USC had just four defensive players make the Big Ten All-Conference teams. One was a DB that made third team. The other three were a DT, S, and LB that made honorable mention. Obviously, Peevy could be a great player. But I don't see anything wrong with wondering about why he didn't play. He's a DE and defensive lines rotate a lot of players. The participation report shows he didn't enter a game. The didn't have a lot of blowout wins or losses, so may have contributed to it. He played on a poor defense and you'd think a player that good would at least see the field if not crack the rotation.
This whole notion that we'd be jacked if Peevy came here is true for some fans, but I'd be wondering all these things if he were comeing to MSU. His high school numbers weren't anything special, but I will defer to all the coaches that recruited him that he was obviously a very good player in high school. His measurements are perfect for the position. If I were a Griz fan I'd be wondering about it.
All fair statements and yes it’s okay to wonder. I look more at the fact that he was only a RS Freshman last season. Would be interesting to see how many Freshman or RS Freshman started or were regular contributors in any P4 programs. I am guessing not very many….definitely more the exception than the rule. That level of football is a whole different beast and the young guys typically have to put in their time for a few years before they crack the rotation. I am assuming his skills and all of his accolades will translate pretty damn good at the FCS level if he ends up a Griz. Like I said before, lots of examples of dudes who weren’t seeing the field at all on their FBS team (even as sophomores or RS-sophs) who then came to Cats or Griz and absolutely dominated (Sterk, Williams, Wilson, Harris just recently ones off top of my head). Personally I hope he ends up in Missoula and we get to see.
Neither Sterk nor Williams were recruited at the level Peevy was. Williams played quite a bit for UW and Sterk saw the field as a RSfrosh. I see a link that seems to indicate he was injured as a sophomore. Washington had a good defense when they were there. So there’s a lot that makes sense about those guys coming to MSU: Choate, good players ahead of them, good defensive line.