Other Week 13 FCS Games

[tetoncat]

Sac loses. Did the griz beat anyone that will make the playoffs? UND might get in

Nope. Griz lost and lost all their quality wins now that Sac lost to Davis.

UND could possibly squeak in at 7-5...every loss is to the playoff field or FBS. But a 7-5 team in the playoffs is pretty unusual. There are 4 Valley teams with 8 wins...would the committee take 6 Valley teams? I don't think so...but stranger things have happened. I'd put it at about a 1 in 3 chance.

And just go beat by a team on a 4 game skid.

[Utcatsfan]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

[onceacat]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

[Prodigal Cat]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

Gris should drop to to 4. They have zero quality wins. None. and A d2 win.

[AFCAT]

Yale beat the previously unbeaten Harvard.

[Utcatsfan]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

I'm not locking anything in and wouldn't be surprised if they end up at #4, but beating a not so good Army team doesn't count as a ranked win when it comes to the selection committee.
My guess the committee is going to see that #2 lost to #3 in a close back and forth game (that INT was the difference) and isn't going to punish them for it. Also the potential for a rematch in the semi finals could somewhat influence the decision.

[tetoncat]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

Herder loves the MVFC. So a win vs a team there is worth a lot in his mind. I just don't see it. It has been SDSU and NDSU with other teams getting a playoff win here and there. Usually they win because of home field. They will get 5 or 6 teams again with bottom ones 7-5 all due to ranked wins in conference because they always have 6 or 7 ranked.

[autocat]

NCAA loves the money! gris will get the higher seed!

[ClowderUp]

Pandas need to be punished for scheduling a D2. Send them to Fargo.

[tetoncat]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

I'm not locking anything in and wouldn't be surprised if they end up at #4, but beating a not so good Army team doesn't count as a ranked win when it comes to the selection committee.
My guess the committee is going to see that #2 lost to #3 in a close back and forth game (that INT was the difference) and isn't going to punish them for it. Also the potential for a rematch in the semi finals could somewhat influence the decision.

But in committees mind Griz were #3 which may make it easier to slide the undefeated 4 up and 1 loss 3 down. It isn't that they will drop 2 spots.

[coloradocat]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

Gris should drop to to 4. They have zero quality wins. None. and A d2 win.

I've been arguing that the griz will get the 3 all along but I always forget about the D2 game. That might be the tiebreaker that pushes Lehigh ahead of them. I still don't think Tarleton jumps the griz as they were already behind Lehigh. The griz aren't falling behind 2 teams just because they lost by 3 in a great rivalry game.

[tetoncat]

NCAA loves the money! gris will get the higher seed!

3 or 4 will not impact # of home games.

[BOBCATBORN]

NCAA loves the money! gris will get the higher seed!

There wouldn’t be any difference though right? 3 vs 4 they would still have the same amount of home games.

[Utcatsfan]

NCAA loves the money! gris will get the higher seed!

3 or 4 will not impact # of home games.

A Brawl 2.0 would be a cash cow

[tetoncat]

NCAA loves the money! gris will get the higher seed!

3 or 4 will not impact # of home games.

A Brawl 2.0 would be a cash cow

Can you get more than the last 2 Cats have hosted?

[coloradocat]

I think Herder has 1-5 correct. The rest don't matter.

However, it's wild that South Dakota is the projected 11. I forgot all about them after they fell apart early. Good for them for clawing their way back. I don't know how you give SDSU the 12 though. They snuck into the playoffs and looked horrible doing so.

[Prodigal Cat]

NCAA loves the money! gris will get the higher seed!

3 or 4 will not impact # of home games.

A Brawl 2.0 would be a cash cow

Well putting them together is actually not good $$ thinking. They take a most of the gate and if they were to host both semi's they would get much more $$. If NDSU is hosting Lehigh or some other crap team that place wont sell out. If they are hosting Montana it will and you know we will sell out no matter who we are playing.

[tetoncat]

I think Herder has 1-5 correct. The rest don't matter.

However, it's wild that South Dakota is the projected 11. I forgot all about them after they fell apart early. Good for them for clawing their way back. I don't know how you give SDSU the 12 though. They snuck into the playoffs and looked horrible doing so.

SDSU should be unseeded or 16. Can't lose 4 straight even with injuries when you are eliminating teams with 2 losses.

[coloradocat]

I think Herder has 1-5 correct. The rest don't matter.

However, it's wild that South Dakota is the projected 11. I forgot all about them after they fell apart early. Good for them for clawing their way back. I don't know how you give SDSU the 12 though. They snuck into the playoffs and looked horrible doing so.

SDSU should be unseeded or 16. Can't lose 4 straight even with injuries when you are eliminating teams with 2 losses.

And they don't even have Mason back yet. If he was the one that led them to the win today I'd be ok with a seed, maybe even 12. But he didn't play again and still might not come back. I doubt the committee gives them the benefit of the doubt as much as Sam is.

[rivercat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve