How do Cats stack up against Griz

[TomCat88]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

Can I get you on retainer? Name your fee.

[PapaG]

I’d like to point out that MSU hasn’t seen nor faced an offense and defense like Weber State’s all season.

[OldGriz]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

[PapaG]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? You’re all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

[TomCat88]

I’d like to point out that MSU hasn’t seen nor faced an offense and defense like Weber State’s all season.

Yes they have. At least twice.

[OldGriz]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

[PapaG]

I’d like to point out that MSU hasn’t seen nor faced an offense and defense like Weber State’s all season.

Yes they have. At least twice.

Not the exact same offense or defense with the same players.

[PapaG]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

No Jack, I understand completely that the Bobcats have not played the Gris this season. I already posted it.

[OldGriz]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

No Jack, I understand completely that the Bobcats have not played the Gris this season. I already posted it.

Your team will have a game coming up in Missoula that actually counts. You’ll have an opponent who has an offense the likes of which you have not yet seen in any game that actually mattered. It also happens to be the best offense in the conference. You didn’t disprove the statement Tom wrote. But The Brawl will be fun!

[coloradocat]

You can’t take a lot of away from the early games, UND vs the Griz as well. New Players and Coaches. Here is an interesting Stat, as everything is talking about the UM offense. In conference Big Sky teams ranked by point differential during conference play:

MSU +173
UM +69
Davis +59
Sac +33
Idaho +8
NAU -21
Cal Poly -40
ISU -41
UNCU -42
EWU -58
Weber -58
PSU -72

Now look at the comparison of the their three common opponents

Category. Montana. Montana State
Points38.3 ppg 46.3 ppg
Total Offense. 438.3 YPG. 484.3 YPG
Rushing. 218.3 ypg 262.3 ypg
Passing. 220 ypg. 222 ypg
Takeaways.33/g. 1/g
Penalties. 15/135 yds. 14/115 yds
Points allowed. 17 ppg. 11.3 ppg

It is pretty clear who the better team is, and it isn’t even close when you look at the synergy of everything

The point differentials get even more interesting for our opponents if you remove their game against the Bobcats.

w/MSU <> w/o MSU
EWU: -58 <> -4
NAU: -21 <> 3
ISU: -41 <> -7
CP: -40 <> -23
UNCU: -42 <> 6

4 of the 5 teams would be practically even if they hadn't played the Bobcats. But they did and now their differential is very under water.

[msuhunter]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

No Jack, I understand completely that the Bobcats have not played the Gris this season. I already posted it.

Your team will have a game coming up in Missoula that actually counts. You’ll have an opponent who has an offense the likes of which you have not yet seen in any game that actually mattered. It also happens to be the best offense in the conference. You didn’t disprove the statement Tom wrote. But The Brawl will be fun!

This sounds like the reasoning of someone who has clearly never played the game ….

[PapaG]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

No Jack, I understand completely that the Bobcats have not played the Gris this season. I already posted it.

Your team will have a game coming up in Missoula that actually counts. You’ll have an opponent who has an offense the likes of which you have not yet seen in any game that actually mattered. It also happens to be the best offense in the conference. You didn’t disprove the statement Tom wrote. But The Brawl will be fun!

South Dakota State’s offense with Mason at QB is better than the Gris offense IMO. That’s called an opinion.

You and Tom can keep pointing out the obvious, I guess.

[OldGriz]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

No Jack, I understand completely that the Bobcats have not played the Gris this season. I already posted it.

Your team will have a game coming up in Missoula that actually counts. You’ll have an opponent who has an offense the likes of which you have not yet seen in any game that actually mattered. It also happens to be the best offense in the conference. You didn’t disprove the statement Tom wrote. But The Brawl will be fun!

South Dakota State’s offense with Mason at QB is better than the Gris offense IMO. That’s called an opinion.

You and Tom can keep pointing out the obvious, I guess.

So the Cats lose to good offense?

[PapaG]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

So now we’re back to how good their offense is even after you admit that Oregon’s is better? Ypure all over the place, Jack.

Cal-Poly did just fine against that offense. Not too worried about beating the Gris.

Nothing in my post is a prediction. You seem to struggle or chafe against facts.

No Jack, I understand completely that the Bobcats have not played the Gris this season. I already posted it.

Your team will have a game coming up in Missoula that actually counts. You’ll have an opponent who has an offense the likes of which you have not yet seen in any game that actually mattered. It also happens to be the best offense in the conference. You didn’t disprove the statement Tom wrote. But The Brawl will be fun!

South Dakota State’s offense with Mason at QB is better than the Gris offense IMO. That’s called an opinion.

You and Tom can keep pointing out the obvious, I guess.

So the Cats lose to good offense?

Good offense and defense, yes.

Gris defense will need to play their best game of the season to win.

[MSU Toddler]

The gris have yet to face a defense as good as the Cats (clearly the best in the BSC and tops in FCS). It will be a huge challenge for Missoula

[rivercat]

You can’t take a lot of away from the early games, UND vs the Griz as well. New Players and Coaches. Here is an interesting Stat, as everything is talking about the UM offense. In conference Big Sky teams ranked by point differential during conference play:

MSU +173
UM +69
Davis +59
Sac +33
Idaho +8
NAU -21
Cal Poly -40
ISU -41
UNCU -42
EWU -58
Weber -58
PSU -72

Now look at the comparison of the their three common opponents

Category. Montana. Montana State
Points38.3 ppg 46.3 ppg
Total Offense. 438.3 YPG. 484.3 YPG
Rushing. 218.3 ypg 262.3 ypg
Passing. 220 ypg. 222 ypg
Takeaways.33/g. 1/g
Penalties. 15/135 yds. 14/115 yds
Points allowed. 17 ppg. 11.3 ppg

It is pretty clear who the better team is, and it isn’t even close when you look at the synergy of everything

The point differentials get even more interesting for our opponents if you remove their game against the Bobcats.

w/MSU <> w/o MSU
EWU: -58 <> -4
NAU: -21 <> 3
ISU: -41 <> -7
CP: -40 <> -23
UNCU: -42 <> 6

4 of the 5 teams would be practically even if they hadn't played the Bobcats. But they did and now their differential is very under water.

Funny how the "nuh uh" subjective opinions keep ignoring the actual numbers posted here. Both Sagarin and Massey ratings agree with the numbers and have the Cats ranked higher.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Correct. I don’t understand why this is difficult.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Tom’s latest meandering thoughts aside, the only way he and OldJack are correct is that yes, MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s simply because they haven’t yet played UM.

Oregon is a better offense by miles, so I’m really not understanding the “haven’t seen an offense like UM’s yet” unless you’re being literal in that the Gris are still to be played. In that case, congrats for stating the obvious.

Oregon’s offense is not only BETTER THAN Montana’s offense, but it’s also DIFFERENT THAN Montana’s offense. The Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky Conference and the Cats have seen nothing like it yet. That is the clear point I read in Tom’s statement. Some of you guys keep using the fact that Oregon boatraced the Cats as a nonsensical argument to try to dispute Tom’s statement.

As I said, that’s being literal. That’s not analysis, that’s a statement of fact. No duh they haven’t seen the Gris offense yet. Excellent insight, Jack. Never could have figured that one out without your wisdom.

Not only “haven’t seen the Griz offense yet,” but haven’t seen an offense like it. The Griz have the top offense in the BSC, as you know.

Actually, Idaho State is slightly better when it comes to yard per play when you take out their game against the best defense in the conference. They played your offense to a draw when they played you. You realize this, right?

[OldGriz]

You can’t take a lot of away from the early games, UND vs the Griz as well. New Players and Coaches. Here is an interesting Stat, as everything is talking about the UM offense. In conference Big Sky teams ranked by point differential during conference play:

MSU +173
UM +69
Davis +59
Sac +33
Idaho +8
NAU -21
Cal Poly -40
ISU -41
UNCU -42
EWU -58
Weber -58
PSU -72

Now look at the comparison of the their three common opponents

Category. Montana. Montana State
Points38.3 ppg 46.3 ppg
Total Offense. 438.3 YPG. 484.3 YPG
Rushing. 218.3 ypg 262.3 ypg
Passing. 220 ypg. 222 ypg
Takeaways.33/g. 1/g
Penalties. 15/135 yds. 14/115 yds
Points allowed. 17 ppg. 11.3 ppg

It is pretty clear who the better team is, and it isn’t even close when you look at the synergy of everything

The point differentials get even more interesting for our opponents if you remove their game against the Bobcats.

w/MSU <> w/o MSU
EWU: -58 <> -4
NAU: -21 <> 3
ISU: -41 <> -7
CP: -40 <> -23
UNCU: -42 <> 6

4 of the 5 teams would be practically even if they hadn't played the Bobcats. But they did and now their differential is very under water.

Funny how the "nuh uh" subjective opinions keep ignoring the actual numbers posted here. Both Sagarin and Massey ratings agree with the numbers and have the Cats ranked higher.

Haha (“actual numbers”) … Sagarin (aka, NINTENDO) and Massey (aka, EA SPORTS) will always have their dedicated following.

[catatac]

I'm not buying this idea the Griz have the best offense in the Big Sky. We'll find out in about three weeks.